What to do

[Yoda]

If you decide to re barrel, do a little checking, most smiths seem to charge from $200 and up all depends what you want done to the action, I have a little over $600 into my Remington total price, I did by a top shelf barrel tho, a stainless Bartlien 5R in 25 caliber, #3 counter. This was a contoured blank, Bartlein had them in stock I paid $355 shipped to the smith, He threaded and crowned and fit the barrel, squared the receiver face and lapped the lugs in for $220, add in a ground instead a stamped recoil lug and engraving the caliber on the barrel and it was a tad over, and since the guy was 50 miles away I delivered and picked up the gun, total 3 week, from the day I dropped it off to pick up.
Douglas will chamber and fit a barrel also for about $400 (barrel included in price)
ER Shaw will do it for right around $300( Barrel included in price), and they have been getting pretty darn good reviews the last year or so.
Most if not all barrel manufactures offer the Chambering and fitting to your action, biggest problem with them for me anyway was the time frame, anywhere from 6-16 weeks up to 6 months,, I'm a impatient person, that's why I had it done locally..... seems like you roll the dice with factory gun accuracy anymore, main reason I just didn't by another 25-06, and so far the re barrel job I had done was well worth the investment :mrgreen:

 

[SJB358]

I have a good smith down in Virginia that will do the barrel swap/chambering for 200-225. Live a little and pick up a nice Krieger, Bartlein or Brux from Grizzly, Bugholes or Butchs and go to town.. Everyone should have the one rifle they just enjoy shooting. Doesn't sound like that Weatherby is ever going to be your cup of tea.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Truck Driver, I would try again to sell it. Better even to lose a few bucks than have a detached retina for life? Just my $.02 worth.

 

[Dr. Vette]

I also have been looking at the Grizzly Gun Works clamp on muzzle brake with a threaded on redirector. The clamp on could be used on the range and removed when Hunting is my train of thought. My biggest concern is if the clamp ons will stay put and not cause excessive wear on the barrel.

Most muzzle brakes are also available with thread protectors, so you can screw them off and hunt without them.

Note, however, that your POI will differ. My 257 shoots to a point about 6 inches different at 200 yards if I remove the brake.

 

[Dwh7271]

TD,
You mentioned noise along with the recoil.
FWIW, my 257 Weatherby may be the loudest rifle I own. Wouldn't be without it and love the gun but it is loud. Cool cartridge. The 270 Weatherby is close on trajectory with a little more downrange punch. Either is a good call. Although either will require a new barrel as you are stepping down in size, not up.
The dual electronic hearing protection is what I do. Dr V is dead on with that. It really pays to use good protection. I also wear the in the ear protection when hunting. Believe it or not, the in the ear actually can amplify sound a little until you shoot; then it deadens it. Pretty handy.
By the time you pick up the barrel of your choice, chamber it, and have a smith stick it on you will probably be better off selling and picking up something you can use. BUT,,, Scotty is right that with the smith route you can end up with exactly what you want and probably have a really accurate rifle set up just the way you would like. Your call certainly.

 

[Dr. Vette]

I was thinking about this a bit this morning after seeing a commercial on TV. I watch the Outdoor Network or Sportsman Channel while on my exercise bike. :grin:

You could always use a Lead Sled when shooting at the range, as they really do decrease felt recoil. While I'm not always a fan of one I have used one, and it can make a big difference. That would let you shoot at the range without a brake and also in the field. It's less expensive than other options too.

Just a thought on how to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[tddeangelo]

Not to pick, but it was mentioned that a 180 at 3000fps was moderate for a 300h&h. I have a 180pt moving at 3015 out of a "300 Magnum" and it's no cream puff. That happens to be a model 70 prewar with a steel buttplate. The recoil is stout. Very stout. I also have to load on the warm side to get there. I would say you can of course reach that speed in a 300h&h, but I seriously mean this, I'm missing something if there's a whole lot of daylight "above" that performance threshold.

More than willing to be educated, and not finding fault in the least, but also don't want Rodger thinking the H&H has a ton of further performance beyond that point. It's getting near the roof from what I can tell at that level. Again, if I missed something, and Lord knows that wouldn't be the first time, I'm all eyes/ears on what else can be had from the 300h&h.

 

[SJB358]

Tom, I think there is probably more speed there but your spot on, not without switching powders and I'd think your absolute roof would be the 3075 area. Just a guess, don't load for an H&H but have for its twin, the WSM and the Win Mag and Wby. The WSM and H&H are so close in capacity the differences are usually the cases. The extra 2" of barrel accounts for most of the difference.

 

[tddeangelo]

That's what I mean....I know there's a little more speed to be had over what I've gotten, but it's comparatively little relative to the overall speed. Just a few percentage points, statistically. To me, 3000 in an H&H or WSM for a 180 is pretty decent. Can't really hope for a LOT more than that, and many settle for less. My WSM is achieving 2975 for the load I'm using with the 180PT, and the H&H is averaging out at 3015. For practical purposes, they're identical, as I don't see 40fps meaning much in any way, lol. Even if I eeked that last 100fps out of the WSM, I'm not sure it'd matter, lol. But either way, once you reach 2950-2975, you're probably within 100fps of the end on either one, I'd think?

 

[FOTIS]

Reeduced loads too

Cartridge          : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler Accubond 55602
Useable Case Capaci: 88.421 grain H2O = 5.741 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch = 90.42 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   80    64.81   2695    2661   39717  10673     95.5    1.372
-09.0   81    65.53   2723    2716   40859  10797     95.9    1.354
-08.0   82    66.25   2750    2771   42031  10919     96.3    1.335
-07.0   83    66.97   2777    2826   43235  11039     96.6    1.317
-06.0   83    67.69   2805    2882   44470  11155     97.0    1.299
-05.0   84    68.41   2832    2939   45737  11268     97.3    1.282
-04.0   85    69.13   2859    2995   47039  11379     97.6    1.265
-03.0   86    69.85   2887    3053   48375  11486     97.9    1.249
-02.0   87    70.57   2914    3110   49746  11589     98.2    1.232
-01.0   88    71.29   2941    3168   51153  11690     98.4    1.216
+00.0   89    72.01   2968    3227   52599  11787     98.7    1.200
+01.0   90    72.73   2995    3285   54082  11880     98.9    1.185
+02.0   91    73.45   3021    3344   55606  11970     99.1    1.170  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0   91    74.17   3048    3404   57170  12057     99.3    1.155  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0   92    74.89   3075    3463   58776  12139     99.4    1.140  ! Near Maximum !
+05.0   93    75.61   3101    3523   60426  12217     99.6    1.126  ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     89    72.01   3090    3498   61216  11573    100.0    1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     89    72.01   2803    2878   44067  11470     93.6    1.304

Cartridge          : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331
Useable Case Capaci: 89.026 grain H2O = 5.780 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch = 90.42 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55839 psi, or 385 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 93 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

210 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  92.8     81.9     5.31    3055   100.0    55840   13797   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   91.0     79.6     5.16    3034   100.0    55840   13538   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           93.0     79.6     5.16    3012    99.7    54420   13865   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        93.0     78.4     5.08    2978    97.9    53000   13684   1.226
ADI AR 2209                         92.3     75.3     4.88    2975    99.1    55840   13010   1.200  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  92.7     76.1     4.93    2971    99.1    55840   13057   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          93.0     76.3     4.95    2953    99.0    55167   12929   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     93.0     78.0     5.05    2952    97.0    51462   13915   1.256
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           90.9     74.6     4.83    2950    99.0    55840   12744   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         90.9     74.6     4.83    2950    99.0    55840   12744   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        92.9     77.1     4.99    2935    99.6    55840   12512   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         93.0     77.2     5.00    2933    97.4    51309   13402   1.242
Winchester Supreme 780              91.9     79.5     5.15    2929    99.1    55840   12474   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        93.0     77.2     5.00    2925    98.5    51088   13412   1.267
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        93.0     77.2     5.00    2925    98.5    51088   13412   1.267
Alliant Reloder-22                  93.0     77.2     5.00    2925    98.5    51088   13412   1.267
Rottweil R904                       91.8     74.2     4.81    2925    98.3    55840   12452   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     93.0     81.1     5.26    2924    95.4    50511   13915   1.276
IMR 4831                            92.2     72.5     4.70    2924   100.0    55840   11840   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    93.0     77.2     5.00    2914    97.3    53721   12782   1.227
Hodgdon H4350                       90.3     72.5     4.70    2914    99.6    55840   12050   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 90.3     71.7     4.64    2902   100.0    55840   11188   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        91.0     79.5     5.15    2895    97.7    55840   12226   1.220  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      93.0     83.1     5.39    2891    98.9    49493   12964   1.279
Rottweil R905                       93.0     75.7     4.91    2855    96.4    48952   12895   1.291
Winchester WXR                      93.0     75.5     4.89    2847    97.6    47137   13103   1.316
Bofors RP15                         93.0     75.5     4.89    2847    97.6    47137   13103   1.316
Alliant Reloder-23                  93.0     74.7     4.84    2841   100.0    47596   12087   1.317
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   93.0     81.5     5.28    2839    96.6    45163   13410   1.329
Accurate 3100                       93.0     76.3     4.95    2833    99.7    50587   11986   1.308
PB Clermont PCL 517                 93.0     81.5     5.28    2833    96.4    44898   13405   1.332
IMR 7828                            93.0     74.2     4.81    2809    95.7    44568   12964   1.330
Hodgdon H4831                       93.0     74.2     4.81    2800    95.8    47642   12291   1.298
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        93.0     77.8     5.04    2792    93.7    45981   12626   1.311
ADI AP 2214                         93.0     79.2     5.13    2791    95.8    44264   12807   1.331
Alliant Reloder-25                  93.0     75.9     4.92    2790    99.4    42342   12829   1.371
Vihtavuori N165                     93.0     75.5     4.89    2776    98.2    47493   11781   1.316
Vihtavuori N160                     93.0     73.2     4.74    2765    96.6    47876   11672   1.301
Bofors RP30                         93.0     76.3     4.95    2697    94.2    38905   12894   1.445
Norma MRP 2                         93.0     76.3     4.95    2697    94.2    38905   12894   1.445
Lovex S071                          93.0     72.2     4.68    2680    98.7    42633   11512   1.421
Vihtavuori N570                     93.0     80.5     5.21    2666    86.7    36873   13385   1.472
Hodgdon H1000                       93.0     75.5     4.89    2634    93.0    37780   12035   1.438
ADI AR 2217                         93.0     75.5     4.89    2634    93.0    37780   12035   1.438
Alliant Reloder-33                  93.0     83.9     5.43    2621    86.3    35570   13103   1.495
Hodgdon Retumbo                     93.0     76.7     4.97    2585    94.9    33814   12545   1.514
ADI AR 2225                         93.0     76.7     4.97    2585    94.9    33814   12545   1.514
ReloadSwiss RS 80                   93.0     82.8     5.36    2525    84.5    32330   12565   1.549
Lovex D100                          93.0     82.1     5.32    2519    81.2    36927   10976   1.479
ADI AR 2218                         93.0     81.3     5.27    2500    80.5    32393   12381   1.535
Norma 217                           93.0     75.2     4.87    2493    91.7    30185   12326   1.599
Vihtavuori N170                     93.0     75.5     4.89    2492    84.6    35272   11024   1.528
Vihtavuori 24N41                    93.0     81.3     5.27    2489    77.6    34294   11228   1.508
Hodgdon H870                        93.0     78.8     5.11    2450    84.1    29946   11947   1.601
Alliant Reloder-50                  93.0     82.5     5.35    2387    79.3    27764   11939   1.683
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087  93.0     80.7     5.23    2356    72.2    29765   11015   1.676
Hodgdon 50BMG                       93.0     77.5     5.02    2321    69.3    28825   10211   1.623
Hodgdon US 869                      93.0     81.3     5.27    2316    73.2    28487   10276   1.635
SNPE Vectan SP 13                   93.0     78.0     5.05    2277    77.8    26502   10205   1.686
Accurate 8700                       93.0     79.6     5.16    2237    75.5    25661    9978   1.696
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520        93.0     78.0     5.05    2216    74.3    25011    9791   1.723
Vihtavuori 20N29                    93.0     82.1     5.32    2207    72.0    24662    9939   1.759
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star            90.3     37.0     2.39    2124   100.0    55840    4678   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only                 93.0     74.7     4.84    2070    51.4    23783    7393   1.772
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only            93.0     74.7     4.84    2045    55.7    22421    7829   1.820
ADI AS 25 BP                        93.0     25.7     1.67    1759   100.0    33220    3400   1.616
IMR TrailBoss                       93.0     25.7     1.67    1759   100.0    33220    3400   1.616
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only        93.0     74.7     4.84    1494    25.9    12862    3685   2.288

Keep it as close to or over 90% fill

 

[SJB358]

Man, all I see when Mike and you post QL is how I need to get off my butt and get the latest edition....

 

[truck driver]

That's Fotis those loads look interesting. You say keep it at 90% case fill so I'm guessing that the bulkier powders are the way to go.

 

[SJB358]

7828 looks real darned good and pretty easy to come by as well.

Fotis, how does the Weatherby respond to lighter loads? Would it be the same if you used a faster powder and loaded it up to higher psi?

 

[Oldtrader3]

My .300 H&H was that Alaskan and had a 26 inch barrel. I doubt that I could get more than 3100 fps with 165 PT's and a 24 inch barrel. Same for the 180 grain, 2950 or whatever is plenty of velocity for that rifle and anymore velocity will not be noticed by any game animal anyhow.

 

[tddeangelo]

I use RL22, which is awfully close to 7828 for load data, with good results in my 300 Super.

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge          : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 200, Nosler PART SP 35626
Useable Case Capaci: 87.330 grain H2O = 5.670 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch = 90.42 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 55839 psi, or 385 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 93 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

217 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  90.8     78.5     5.09    2903   100.0    55840   13398   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           91.7     77.1     4.99    2889   100.0    55840   13563   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        92.6     76.5     4.96    2886    99.1    55840   13598   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     93.0     76.5     4.96    2876    98.6    54980   13935   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         93.0     75.7     4.90    2855    98.9    54671   13405   1.262  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     93.0     79.6     5.16    2855    97.4    54085   14017   1.293
Alliant Reloder-22                  93.0     75.7     4.90    2846    99.6    54543   13343   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        93.0     75.7     4.90    2846    99.6    54543   13343   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        93.0     75.7     4.90    2846    99.6    54543   13343   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         90.5     72.4     4.69    2833    99.6    55840   12727   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  90.8     73.1     4.74    2829    99.6    55840   12772   1.265  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          91.5     73.7     4.78    2824    99.6    55840   12693   1.265  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      93.0     81.5     5.28    2818    99.8    53387   12857   1.294
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    92.4     75.2     4.87    2814    98.5    55840   12719   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        91.0     74.1     4.80    2794    99.9    55840   12206   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              90.1     76.5     4.96    2791    99.6    55840   12227   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       90.0     71.5     4.63    2787    99.0    55840   12219   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       93.0     74.3     4.81    2780    98.1    52188   12933   1.311
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   93.0     79.9     5.18    2777    98.5    48619   13467   1.344
IMR 4831                            90.3     69.6     4.51    2776   100.0    55840   11488   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      93.0     74.1     4.80    2772    99.0    50343   13097   1.335
Bofors RP15                         93.0     74.1     4.80    2772    99.0    50343   13097   1.335
PB Clermont PCL 517                 93.0     79.9     5.18    2772    98.4    48325   13471   1.347
Alliant Reloder-23                  93.0     73.2     4.75    2755   100.0    51052   11863   1.337
Accurate 3100                       93.0     74.9     4.85    2751   100.0    54032   11785   1.326
IMR 7828                            93.0     72.8     4.71    2740    97.7    47615   13038   1.350
ADI AP 2214                         93.0     77.7     5.04    2727    97.9    47233   12893   1.350
Hodgdon H4831                       93.0     72.8     4.71    2724    97.6    50586   12357   1.321
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        93.0     76.3     4.95    2722    95.9    48787   12784   1.333
Alliant Reloder-25                  93.0     74.5     4.83    2719   100.0    45408   12665   1.389
Vihtavuori N165                     93.0     74.1     4.80    2698    99.4    50521   11729   1.338
Vihtavuori N160                     93.0     71.8     4.65    2686    98.2    50631   11695   1.326
Bofors RP30                         93.0     74.9     4.85    2641    96.7    42031   13047   1.459
Norma MRP 2                         93.0     74.9     4.85    2641    96.7    42031   13047   1.459
Vihtavuori N570                     93.0     78.9     5.12    2624    90.3    39658   13800   1.485
Lovex S071                          93.0     70.8     4.59    2608    99.7    45604   11419   1.440
Alliant Reloder-33                  93.0     82.3     5.33    2583    90.0    38260   13547   1.512
Hodgdon H1000                       93.0     74.1     4.80    2579    95.8    40284   12225   1.457
ADI AR 2217                         93.0     74.1     4.80    2579    95.8    40284   12225   1.457
ADI AR 2225                         93.0     75.3     4.88    2539    97.6    36180   12720   1.539
Hodgdon Retumbo                     93.0     75.3     4.88    2539    97.6    36180   12720   1.539
ReloadSwiss RS 80                   93.0     81.2     5.26    2494    88.6    34736   13064   1.574
ADI AR 2218                         93.0     79.8     5.17    2471    85.4    34541   13040   1.561
Lovex D100                          93.0     80.6     5.22    2471    84.6    39475   11339   1.498

 

[FOTIS]

or at 50K PSI

Cartridge          : .300 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .308, 200, Nosler PART SP 35626
Useable Case Capaci: 87.330 grain H2O = 5.670 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.560 inch = 90.42 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 50000 psi, or 344 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 93 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

228 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N560                     90.1     74.2     4.80    2788    97.7    50000   13561   1.333
Accurate MAGPRO                     90.7     77.6     5.03    2781    96.4    50000   13688   1.342
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   93.0     79.9     5.18    2777    98.5    48619   13467   1.344
ADI AR 2213                         90.4     73.5     4.77    2774    98.1    50000   13082   1.316
PB Clermont PCL 517                 93.0     79.9     5.18    2772    98.4    48325   13471   1.347
Alliant Reloder-22                  90.4     73.5     4.77    2767    99.1    50000   13060   1.339
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        90.4     73.5     4.77    2767    99.1    50000   13060   1.339
Raufoss RA15                        90.4     73.5     4.77    2767    99.1    50000   13060   1.339
Bofors RP15                         92.8     73.9     4.79    2766    99.0    50000   13072   1.340
Winchester WXR                      92.8     73.9     4.79    2766    99.0    50000   13072   1.340
Ramshot Magnum                      91.3     80.1     5.19    2763    99.6    50000   12720   1.334
Rottweil R905                       91.7     73.2     4.75    2741    97.7    50000   12769   1.338
IMR 7828                            93.0     72.8     4.71    2740    97.7    47615   13038   1.350
Alliant Reloder-23                  92.4     72.7     4.71    2738   100.0    50000   11818   1.350
ADI AP 2214                         93.0     77.7     5.04    2727    97.9    47233   12893   1.350
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        93.0     76.3     4.95    2722    95.9    48787   12784   1.333
Alliant Reloder-25                  93.0     74.5     4.83    2719   100.0    45408   12665   1.389
Hodgdon H4831                       92.6     72.5     4.70    2714    97.5    50000   12310   1.328
Vihtavuori N165                     92.7     73.8     4.78    2689    99.3    50000   11699   1.344
Accurate 3100                       90.7     73.0     4.73    2686   100.0    50000   11636   1.377
Vihtavuori N160                     92.6     71.5     4.63    2675    98.1    50000   11649   1.334
Norma MRP 2                         93.0     74.9     4.85    2641    96.7    42031   13047   1.459
Bofors RP30                         93.0     74.9     4.85    2641    96.7    42031   13047   1.459
Vihtavuori N570                     93.0     78.9     5.12    2624    90.3    39658   13800   1.485
Lovex S071                          93.0     70.8     4.59    2608    99.7    45604   11419   1.440
Alliant Reloder-33                  93.0     82.3     5.33    2583    90.0    38260   13547   1.512
ADI AR 2217                         93.0     74.1     4.80    2579    95.8    40284   12225   1.457
Hodgdon H1000                       93.0     74.1     4.80    2579    95.8    40284   12225   1.457
ADI AR 2225                         93.0     75.3     4.88    2539    97.6    36180   12720   1.539
Hodgdon Retumbo                     93.0     75.3     4.88    2539    97.6    36180   12720   1.539

 

[truck driver]

Thanks for the QL Fotis. I saw were you said to keep at 90% case fill. I'm taking it that you will get an erratic discharge or powder burn with anything less?
Have you worked with reduced loads in the 300 Bee if so what were your findings such as accuracy since I have only been able to find accuracy with full pressure loads.
With some cartridges you have a slow node and a fast node where you find your best accuracy. Hoping for a slow or light node.

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

Why not loading your ammo down? I felt like in a particularly rank (recoil-wise) .300 WIN MAG that I had for years, I always shot better with 150 grain bullets at about 3150 fps than with my heavy loaded 180s. The .300 Roy should still shoot very well with a 180 grainer at .300 H&H velocities without have to rechamber or rebarrel. Might be worth a try friend Good luck with whatever you decide!

 

[Oldtrader3]

I have never had much luck on game with 150 gr bullets. For the .300 mags that I have owned (all 3 of them) the 165 Partition does the trick with hunting much better than the 150 grain bullets, especially on the various species of deer that I have killed.