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Hunting in our state (NJ) is tough due to all the pressure. Scent control is still very important. I find that the deer here are a little more tolerant of human scent due to all the contact with people. Most of the time, they will freeze and watch you go by. If you make a sudden movement, they are gone. They learned to live between all the houses. I have deer in my place every day, but drive 10-25 minutes to hunt somewhere else. In the bigger woods, they are more affected by scent with little tolerance.
I’ve had some of the same problems with guys dumping roofing nails in the driveways at some of the properties. We were able to track them down and give some free advice. No more problems. I’m old school, you hit me, and I hit you a lot harder.
I like to hunt away from most of the others because I am tired of putting a lot of work in and have other people ruin all the prep work. I prune trails through the thickets where you can almost control the deer movement through them. I’ve had guys use the same trails to hang their stands even though mine was there. I can not tell you the frustration I have dealt with here over the years.
And how about dumb luck. I’ve seen guys who were bumbling idiots take some huge deer. I don’t get it. Sorry about the ranting.
I am very fortunate to have had the time over the years to spend in the woods hunting, gaining experience. I got a lot of it from watching, not shooting.
One other thing is that with the fact we hunt with shotguns in his state and with the crowds on state land, I think we are a little more tolerant with hunting distances between hunters. I know I hunt with others in several other states where they don’t even want to think about seeing anyone else.
When checking an area for scouting or trip planning, I get the topo’s and also satellite photos. I mark the trails, look to see in the big picture of how they move. I then put some footwork in to check things out. You can also see on adjoining properties of where the others might be. I just came back from Colorado in October on a self guided Elk hunt. The satellite photos saved lots of time and we did well.
The key is to prepare as best as possible to give yourself options.
I’ve had some of the same problems with guys dumping roofing nails in the driveways at some of the properties. We were able to track them down and give some free advice. No more problems. I’m old school, you hit me, and I hit you a lot harder.
I like to hunt away from most of the others because I am tired of putting a lot of work in and have other people ruin all the prep work. I prune trails through the thickets where you can almost control the deer movement through them. I’ve had guys use the same trails to hang their stands even though mine was there. I can not tell you the frustration I have dealt with here over the years.
And how about dumb luck. I’ve seen guys who were bumbling idiots take some huge deer. I don’t get it. Sorry about the ranting.
I am very fortunate to have had the time over the years to spend in the woods hunting, gaining experience. I got a lot of it from watching, not shooting.
One other thing is that with the fact we hunt with shotguns in his state and with the crowds on state land, I think we are a little more tolerant with hunting distances between hunters. I know I hunt with others in several other states where they don’t even want to think about seeing anyone else.
When checking an area for scouting or trip planning, I get the topo’s and also satellite photos. I mark the trails, look to see in the big picture of how they move. I then put some footwork in to check things out. You can also see on adjoining properties of where the others might be. I just came back from Colorado in October on a self guided Elk hunt. The satellite photos saved lots of time and we did well.
The key is to prepare as best as possible to give yourself options.
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Scotty,boolit":33dnn582 said:
I had my best luck doing this about 2-3 hours after a venison steak dinner. :mrgreen:
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beretzs":puxm9w8x said:
Scotty,
Have I got a deal for you!
JD338
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JD - is that your place?
JD338":pk6n8req said:beretzs":pk6n8req said:
Scotty,
Have I got a deal for you!
JD338
Jim, where I grew up, working and living amongst the dairy farms, horses were for the rich folks! WE called them hayburners since you can't get much out of them, but more bills! I did learn to like them while hunting in Idaho though! I know how those Michigan Horse trading deals go though!!! Scotty
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Guy,
No this is where we board our horses which is a few miles from home. Behind my daughter and her horse is the indoor riding arena. There is a pond behind me and I have shot quite a few geese there.
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Very cool. I knew you had daughters and horses, figured they were featured in the photo.
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We used to have 4 horses and now down to just 1.
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I have a strick 4 wheel minimum I abide by so horses and motorcycles are out of the equasion for ol'Heath.
Jim, you were working on horse trading the last time we spoke on the phone I think. Just one more to go!
Jim, you were working on horse trading the last time we spoke on the phone I think. Just one more to go!
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MI did away with baiting on the lower and I am glad. My neighbor (who got busted by the DNR for shooting too many deer :grin: :lol: :grin: :lol: :grin: :lol: ) would dump 300-400 pounds of carrots at a time and would knowingly change the travel patterns of the local heard.
I hunt funnels, rub lines and have perched over scrape lines with excellent success in the LP.
In the UP, I hunt over bait. More than once I have had a hot doe bring in a buck.
JD338
I hunt funnels, rub lines and have perched over scrape lines with excellent success in the LP.
In the UP, I hunt over bait. More than once I have had a hot doe bring in a buck.
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HeathSexton":bgco5lsg said:I have a strick 4 wheel minimum I abide by so horses and motorcycles are out of the equasion for ol'Heath.
Jim, you were working on horse trading the last time we spoke on the phone I think. Just one more to go!
Thats right! We sold a cute little Arabian mare.
One to go! I will also through in a Sundowner slant load aluminum trailer and a GMC 2500HD Crew Cab pick up. :wink:
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I guess baiting isn't the best way to go all the time. Just in certain circumstances. A funnel in thick cover with a stand is the best way without bait. NJ allows bait anywhere. In the area where I go hunting a buddy of mine and I bumped into a area that was beat to death with deer travel and an old stand. But I wasn't keen on the spot because it was so far back. Dragging the quarry was too intresting. :roll:
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Jim,
That is a beautiful horse there. Daughters are great. However, when my girls moved, I lost some great fishing partners. It looks as if you have a couple of years until that sad situation.
That is a beautiful horse there. Daughters are great. However, when my girls moved, I lost some great fishing partners.
It looks as if you have a couple of years until that sad situation.Hi Guys,
I got tired of dealing with all the issues on public land about 10 years ago, and sunk my life savings into my own land. I deal with poachers from time to time, but in general, hunting is good and I can keep the company that i wish. We do hunt it for money and I guide several times a year. I have met a lot of bad hunters ( IE they don't know how or cannot shoot) and some people that prove there are more horses asses than horses. But, all in all, it has been a good experience, and I am glad to have gone in this direction.
Prep work is year 'round. I practice shooting, work new loads, and stay up on what is happening with the political scene as a lot of those people want to take away my freedom and ability to hunt. There are always roads to maintain, water holes to build, fences to repair, food plots to plant or maintain, and a lot of other work to keep me busy. I also track every buck that I see during the year, and most of the does and fawns. I tend to take the culls myself. Pretty bad bucks that I do not want in the herd.
Merry Christmas,
Hardpan
I got tired of dealing with all the issues on public land about 10 years ago, and sunk my life savings into my own land. I deal with poachers from time to time, but in general, hunting is good and I can keep the company that i wish. We do hunt it for money and I guide several times a year. I have met a lot of bad hunters ( IE they don't know how or cannot shoot) and some people that prove there are more horses asses than horses. But, all in all, it has been a good experience, and I am glad to have gone in this direction.
Prep work is year 'round. I practice shooting, work new loads, and stay up on what is happening with the political scene as a lot of those people want to take away my freedom and ability to hunt. There are always roads to maintain, water holes to build, fences to repair, food plots to plant or maintain, and a lot of other work to keep me busy. I also track every buck that I see during the year, and most of the does and fawns. I tend to take the culls myself. Pretty bad bucks that I do not want in the herd.
Merry Christmas,
Hardpan
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