Who makes a reasonbly priced falling block rifle?

[roysclockgun]

A fair number of issues come with age. Not all of them are pleasant. In my 50s, the kill became less important and the level of the quality feel of a hunt moved to the fore. Along with a quality hunt, I felt more need to make one shot kills. There is something about carrying a single shot rifle that makes me feel even more responsible for lessening the suffering of the game. For those reasons, I began using my Browning B78, in 7RemMag., for all deer to include elk.
The 140gr AB provided the highest degree of accuracy and long range quick kills on mule deer and pronghorn. Granted, my longest shot was a measured 404 yards on a good muley buck. Not world class shooting, but I had full confidence in the rifle and bullet, when I took that shot.
Are any other hunters feeling as I do, that there is a shortage of single shot, solid lock up rifles available? The break open rifles are good, but not what I want on a long range deer/pronghorn hunt. There really is nothing out there, unless one searches the used market. Am I mistaken??
Steven

 

[FOTIS]

I always loved Ruger #1's. Never been with out one. Currently have one in 458 Lott.

 

[REDGREEN]

I agree 100% POP. Can't beat the Ruger #1's.

 

[roysclockgun]

I have to admit, I forget about the Ruger No. 1 rifles.
Have they cured the issues with the forestock. I had three of them in the 1980s and not one would shoot worth a darn, unless you had a gunsmith do something with the forestock, or you could remove the forestock and that improved the groups. I can't remember what needed to be done. Maybe now those problems are cured. Are they?
I always liked the looks of the Ruger No. 1, but did not want to buy another that was not accurate. I would like to have one in 7x57mm.
Steven

 

[bullet]

Here is a target from my out of the box 300Wby in a Ruger #1 with Weatherby factory ammo to answer your question.

 

[roysclockgun]

bullet did write : "Here is a target from my out of the box 300Wby in a Ruger #1 with Weatherby factory ammo to answer your question. "

bullet, I do not doubt your report at all. Very nice shooting, indeed!

My question would be; can one generally expect that sort of grouping from most all "out of the box No. 1 Rifles" ? And further, since Ruger did have accuracy problems in the No.1, were those problems addressed and fixed, or did you just get one exceptional No.1?

I only know that twenty years ago, the fact that Ruger No.1 Rifles would not shoot well, until fixed, was widely known and discussed. I am admitting my ignorance, in that I never heard if Ruger did change something to cause the No.1 to be accurate.......or not?

During the time period that I mentioned, I owned No.1 Rifles in 270Win, 7mmRemMag and 30-06. I sold those because they would not group well. Once burnt, twice shy! However, if Ruger has done something different with those forestocks, I would give them another look.

Thank you for the replies,
Steven

 

[roysclockgun]

bullet? In that nice tight group, what bullet are you using? What MV are you getting? I always did like the 300 Wby. Great elk cartridge.
Steven

 

[bullet]

bullet? In that nice tight group, what bullet are you using? What MV are you getting? I always did like the 300 Wby. Great elk cartridge.
Steven

165gr BT 3330fps but my elk load is a hand load and it is 180gr TSX using RL-22 moving at 3221fps.

 

[Big Squeeze]

bullet did write : "Here is a target from my out of the box 300Wby in a Ruger #1 with Weatherby factory ammo to answer your question. "

bullet, I do not doubt your report at all. Very nice shooting, indeed!

My question would be; can one generally expect that sort of grouping from most all "out of the box No. 1 Rifles" ? And further, since Ruger did have accuracy problems in the No.1, were those problems addressed and fixed, or did you just get one exceptional No.1?

I only know that twenty years ago, the fact that Ruger No.1 Rifles would not shoot well, until fixed, was widely known and discussed. I am admitting my ignorance, in that I never heard if Ruger did change something to cause the No.1 to be accurate.......or not?

During the time period that I mentioned, I owned No.1 Rifles in 270Win, 7mmRemMag and 30-06. I sold those because they would not group well. Once burnt, twice shy! However, if Ruger has done something different with those forestocks, I would give them another look.

Thank you for the replies,
Steven

.............................I believe that I read somewhere that Ruger did cure their #1 accuracy problems from way back when!.......You may want to call Ruger directly and ask them. Contact # is on their website. They may have the answer.

 

[bullet]

bullet did write : "Here is a target from my out of the box 300Wby in a Ruger #1 with Weatherby factory ammo to answer your question. "

bullet, I do not doubt your report at all. Very nice shooting, indeed!

My question would be; can one generally expect that sort of grouping from most all "out of the box No. 1 Rifles" ? And further, since Ruger did have accuracy problems in the No.1, were those problems addressed and fixed, or did you just get one exceptional No.1?

I only know that twenty years ago, the fact that Ruger No.1 Rifles would not shoot well, until fixed, was widely known and discussed. I am admitting my ignorance, in that I never heard if Ruger did change something to cause the No.1 to be accurate.......or not?

During the time period that I mentioned, I owned No.1 Rifles in 270Win, 7mmRemMag and 30-06. I sold those because they would not group well. Once burnt, twice shy! However, if Ruger has done something different with those forestocks, I would give them another look.

Thank you for the replies,
Steven

Yes, today you can expect the Ruger #1 to be accurate, this is not the only one I have shot.

 

[Big Squeeze]

bullet? In that nice tight group, what bullet are you using? What MV are you getting? I always did like the 300 Wby. Great elk cartridge.
Steven

......................Assuming they are still available and you want a #1, you may have to act quick if you want a 300 Wby.............On the Ruger website, they show the discontinuation of some chamberings in the standard #1`s, including the 300 Wby........I don`t know how old that revision is.

 

[bullet]

What a mistake that is to discontinue the 300Wby in the standard Ruger #1 just like it was a mistake to discontinue the 7mmSTW in their stainless Ruger #1. Sometimes it all just makes me wonder?????????????????? :evil:

 

[Big Squeeze]

What a mistake that is to discontinue the 300Wby in the standard Ruger #1 just like it was a mistake to discontinue the 7mmSTW in their stainless Ruger #1. Sometimes it all just makes me wonder?????????????????? :evil:

..................I agree with you! But maybe the #1`s weren`t selling well enough to justify the discontinuation...........Since bolt actions sell much better across board, Ruger may start to chamber the 300 Wby. in the M77! I think that they would sell better than the #1`s.........If they chambered it in the #1, I don`t see any reason why they can`t in the M77, unless permission from Weatherby is denied, assuming their permission would be needed in the first place!

 

[roysclockgun]

The 300 Wby has alwasy struggled against the other big 30cal. cartridges. Ruger makes decisions based on the bottom line, as do all businesses. If there is enough clamoring for the 300Wby in the No.1, they will, for sure, come out with one of their limited runs.

The race for an accurate long range 30cal. cartridge peaked out with the 300Wby. While the bigger ones are hyped by their own following, nothing or nearly nothing is gained by going to the 300RUM, 30-378 or other overdone 30s.

I have yet to see any meaningful gain in range and/or down range energy foot pounds in 30cal cartridges larger than the 300Wby. On paper, they sound good. At the range, they kill at both ends and in the field there is no noticeable gain.
Steven

 

[FOTIS]

I never had a #1 that did not shoot under MOA.

 

[REDGREEN]

I have 2 #1's, a BBZ in 25 06 and a #1 270 weatherby magnum. I have not tinkered with either of them yet, and they both shoot sub moa at 300 meters. My last one , also, a 270 weatherby magnum, which I sold to get an accumark, was a mistake. I sold the accumark, and got another #1 in 270 weatherby magnum. A friend has quite a collection of #1's, and they all shoot impressive groups. BTW, one of them is a 7x57. It is outstanding. It is definately minute of venison at all practical ranges.

 

[GRT338]

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