Why no polymer tip on partitions??
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Re: A Partition ballistic tip
by POP » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:56 pm
Actually at the risk of sounding sarcastic my answer is ...It doesn't.
I have had rifles that hated the ballistic tips (and all boat tails for that matter ) and loved the partitions.
Having said that I will let you in on a little secret. The more complex the construction the bullet is the harder it is to get it to shoot. This statement is not a panacea but I found it to be true more times than not.
This is one of the reasons that cup and core bullets are somewhat easier to get to shoot. Sierra comes to mind.Fotis
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by POP » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:56 pm
Actually at the risk of sounding sarcastic my answer is ...It doesn't.
I have had rifles that hated the ballistic tips (and all boat tails for that matter ) and loved the partitions.
Having said that I will let you in on a little secret. The more complex the construction the bullet is the harder it is to get it to shoot. This statement is not a panacea but I found it to be true more times than not.
This is one of the reasons that cup and core bullets are somewhat easier to get to shoot. Sierra comes to mind.Fotis
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DRT,
Welcome to the forum, glad to have you here.
Your question is one that has been asked on many occasions.
The PT design is the flagship line of bullets, designed back in 1948. It is the bench mark bullet by which all other bullets are compared to.
Although the design is 60 years+, it is very reliable just the way it is. Nosler has chosen to leave the PT design as is.
I have shot the PT's with deformed tips (a result of heavy recoil to loaded cartridges in the magazine) and found that the accuracy was unaffected out to 300 yds.
JD338
Welcome to the forum, glad to have you here.
Your question is one that has been asked on many occasions.
The PT design is the flagship line of bullets, designed back in 1948. It is the bench mark bullet by which all other bullets are compared to.
Although the design is 60 years+, it is very reliable just the way it is. Nosler has chosen to leave the PT design as is.
I have shot the PT's with deformed tips (a result of heavy recoil to loaded cartridges in the magazine) and found that the accuracy was unaffected out to 300 yds.
JD338
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Welcome to the forum. We're glad to have you.
Many hunters (being the weird, demanding and perfectionists we tend to be) freak out when we see those little distorted tips on our lead bullets.
A while back one of the gun writers did a column on deformed tips vs none deformed. It was very lengthy and very detailed.
Suffice to say that he pretty much proved that withing regular hunting distances (300 yards or less) the deformed tips did very little as far as accuracy goes.
Now this does not prove that velocity and in return energy did not change. Butt if velocity had dropped off considerably due to the deformed tip and consequently the BC then accuracy would have gone to pot.
Long story short unless you're doing the super long range thing you will not notice.
Many hunters (being the weird, demanding and perfectionists we tend to be) freak out when we see those little distorted tips on our lead bullets.
A while back one of the gun writers did a column on deformed tips vs none deformed. It was very lengthy and very detailed.
Suffice to say that he pretty much proved that withing regular hunting distances (300 yards or less) the deformed tips did very little as far as accuracy goes.
Now this does not prove that velocity and in return energy did not change. Butt if velocity had dropped off considerably due to the deformed tip and consequently the BC then accuracy would have gone to pot.
Long story short unless you're doing the super long range thing you will not notice.
DRT welcome to the forum
I am with Bullet and JD338 the reason they don't have them is because they don't need them. (Now having said that they will probably start mass producing them tomorrow.) When I am hunting I "always" put the most deformed one in the chamber first, I want it out of the way. I have also been known to set in camp and take a pocket knife and smooth them out a little (BC is highly overrated in "most" hunting situations) so that they would chamber better. I don't know if you have read any other of my posts but they have been my primary hunting bullet for 50 years this season. They work the right way every time!!!!!
I am with Bullet and JD338 the reason they don't have them is because they don't need them. (Now having said that they will probably start mass producing them tomorrow.) When I am hunting I "always" put the most deformed one in the chamber first, I want it out of the way. I have also been known to set in camp and take a pocket knife and smooth them out a little (BC is highly overrated in "most" hunting situations) so that they would chamber better. I don't know if you have read any other of my posts but they have been my primary hunting bullet for 50 years this season. They work the right way every time!!!!!
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Elkman":1krs0cm2 said:
AMEN ON WORKING THE RIGHT WAY EVERY TIME!!!!!! THEY REALLY DO INDEED WORK VERY WELL!!!!
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I think the following old saying fits this situation:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - The Partition bullet is definitely not broken, even after all these years.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - The Partition bullet is definitely not broken, even after all these years.
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DRT - I think the AccuBond is the answer to folks who hounded Nosler for a plastic-tipped Partition for years.
The AccuBond seems to perform very closely to the Partition on game or in expansion/penetration tests, yet it has the long-range accuracy of the Ballistic Tip.
The Partition bullet itself is pretty doggone good, just the way it is.
Guy
The AccuBond seems to perform very closely to the Partition on game or in expansion/penetration tests, yet it has the long-range accuracy of the Ballistic Tip.
The Partition bullet itself is pretty doggone good, just the way it is.
Guy
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Personally I am very happy with the accubonds.
