Wolves need managed.

[6mm Remington]

They don't need to be removed or exterminated, but they do need to have measures in place that allow for hunting and trapping to help keep them wild and to keep numbers in check.

Sheriff warns of escalating wolf attacks as elk dies yards from home; front stoop left bloodied

The Sierra County Sheriff’s Office in California reports residents are under siege from wolves, posting graphic photos of a bloodied stoop where an elk was brought down just yards from a res…

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[DrMike]

The ignorant living in the cities have romanticized (Disneyed?) wildlife into domesticated beings with the sentimental mush with which they themselves are afflicted. Animals need to maintain a healthy fear of humans, and that means keeping them wild.

 

[PJGunner]

"Be careful of what you wish for" is an old saying that those if California need to think about and heed. First, "Save the Mountain Lions", then "Bring back the wolves" and now they want to bring back the Grizzly Bear. Won't be too much longer before the citizens of California become the latest prey animal on those predator's menu.
There's a science fiction novel by J.Y. Jones titled Lightspeed to Babylon. It takes place in the future where they have built space ship that can almost reach but not quite reach the speed of light. Life is now ruled by the ecofreaks and religion. there is a growing cult which I won't describe as it would be a spoiler alert. but I will say that the book is a good read and has a surprise ending. One of the things is hunting is still allowed by extremely regulated. bears and Mountain lions roam through villages. In fact, the "hero" of the story lost his mother to a hungry Mountain lion. It's a very interesting concept of the future.
Paul B.

 

[IdahoCTD]

The problem is most of these people with the brilliant ideas don't have to live with them. That should be a requirement to any of these dumb ideas, you live with them too. I'd love to see wolves and grizzlies in NY and CA. Once they had to live with them they'd rethink their stupidness.

 

[Slimfinn]

The problem is most of these people with the brilliant ideas don't have to live with them. That should be a requirement to any of these dumb ideas, you live with them too. I'd love to see wolves and grizzlies in NY and CA. Once they had to live with them they'd rethink their stupidness.

California even has a a grizzly on their state flag, I think they should have them all over the state.

 

[3 Meter Para Bellum]

Humans and bears cannot coexist in too close proximity. The bears figured that out a long time ago, but apparently many humans still haven't.

 

[clearwater]

It's over the top if you see wolves with your cattle that you can't kill them. Cause they are not going to quit once they start eating calves. Here in Washington a rancher can stop an attack. We have plenty of wolves in the NE corner of the state and would love to share some with those on the West side. Seems we might have reached a saturation point as the biologist's count last year went down for the first time. The confederated tribes took 19 themselves. Sunday out looking for turkey's we saw a little black bear and also a lion kill that had fallen from it hiding place in a tree. Wife saw a wolf along Highway 395 yesterday munching on a road killed deer. Plenty of predators here, save for grizzly and wolverine. Wouldn't mind wolverine, but I doubt we have the avalanches needed to support them.

I used to mush and hunt in the Sierra Valley. The Sierra Nevada had no elk. We used to laugh at the 2nd home owners who would buy moose and elk decore from the local furniture store. Only ungulates were mule deer. Plenty of lions tho. They took a friend's pet goat that was staked out. Only the head remained. Friend was very distraught. Maybe wolves are following elk that are moving to new ranges.

 

[cloverleaf]

The ignorant living in the cities have romanticized (Disneyed?) wildlife into domesticated beings with the sentimental mush with which they themselves are afflicted. Animals need to maintain a healthy fear of humans, and that means keeping them wild.

Oh please - THIS! It aint just wolves. I am over run w/ Squirrels here in the city w/ no recourse thanks to this attitude among my neighbors. CL

 

[grry10]

As long as there are liberal groups and judges blocking every management plan wolves will be a problem. My personal feeling is that they should have never been reintroduced without firm management plans in-place.

 

[clearwater]

As long as there are liberal groups and judges blocking every management plan wolves will be a problem. My personal feeling is that they should have never been reintroduced without firm management plans in-place.

The ones in WA state have been visiting from Canada for years, but since about 2008 decided to stay. WA does have quite a management plan with a group in charge that includes stakeholders from all facets. Pretty balanced in my opinion, but the past governor overrode some decisions.

In California I understand they are protected maybe even more than grizzly are nationally. In Idaho there is a bounty on wolves. They seem to be thriving both places. I think habitat is still the big factor.

 

[IdahoCTD]

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It's over the top if you see wolves with your cattle that you can't kill them. Cause they are not going to quit once they start eating calves. Here in Washington a rancher can stop an attack. We have plenty of wolves in the NE corner of the state and would love to share some with those on the West side. Seems we might have reached a saturation point as the biologist's count last year went down for the first time. The confederated tribes took 19 themselves. Sunday out looking for turkey's we saw a little black bear and also a lion kill that had fallen from it hiding place in a tree. Wife saw a wolf along Highway 395 yesterday munching on a road killed deer. Plenty of predators here, save for grizzly and wolverine. Wouldn't mind wolverine, but I doubt we have the avalanches needed to support them.

I used to mush and hunt in the Sierra Valley. The Sierra Nevada had no elk. We used to laugh at the 2nd home owners who would buy moose and elk decore from the local furniture store. Only ungulates were mule deer. Plenty of lions tho. They took a friend's pet goat that was staked out. Only the head remained. Friend was very distraught. Maybe wolves are following elk that are moving to new ranges.

Wolves easily kill deer too. In one spot I use to hunt, and the place I killed my first wolf, the wolves killed or ran off all the elk and then started into the deer. It was pretty easy to tell by the hair in their scat. The deer numbers plummeted too.

 

[PJGunner]

The ones in WA state have been visiting from Canada for years, but since about 2008 decided to stay. WA does have quite a management plan with a group in charge that includes stakeholders from all facets. Pretty balanced in my opinion, but the past governor overrode some decisions.

In California I understand they are protected maybe even more than grizzly are nationally. In Idaho there is a bounty on wolves. They seem to be thriving both places. I think habitat is still the big factor.

There was a man who worked for the California Game & Fish dept, that went on a guided hunt for a Mountain Lion in ANOTHER state. He got his cat and when his mount arrived from the taxidermist he posted a picture on a hunting site. California Fish & Game fired him from his job. I understand he files a law suit for wrongful termination but as it's California the odds aren't in this favor for a good outcome. You might as well figure California not only protects their Mountain Lions those in every other state as well. No wonder they call it the state of nuts, fruits and flakes.
Paul B.

 

[sphingta]

Cloverleaf a good pellet gun and an open window in a dark room will allow you to take squirrels. Just don’t be stupid as to your back stop but an area can only support so many squirrels before they start destroying houses