You fill in the open spots

[wisconsinteacher]

Well, as you can tell the snow has not melted in northern WI and I am trying to kill time by looking at different loads and bullets. I worked out a deal with my mother in law to buy a few rifles from her since my father in law passed away. I will be buying a 243, 270 and 7mm Rem Mag from her. Here is what I have or plan on trying you guys chime in with your thoughts.

338wm 225 Interlocks or 210 Partitions (deer/elk)
30-06 180 AccuBond (deer/elk)
30-06 165 Partitions (deer/elk)
7mm ????? (deer open country)
270 ???? (deer open country)
25-06 110 AccuBond (deer) /87 Sierra (varmints)
243 95 Partition (deer) /70 Ballistic Tip (varmints)

I am trying to limit overlap of bullet weight and design with my collection of rifles. You guys fill in the 7mm and 270 slots. I am open to different bullet makers.

Thanks for the info and knowledge.

 

[Elkman]

Good morning all
So here is my take on this really complex issue!
338, deer/elk, 210 PT
30:06, deer, 165 PT ( hunt elk with the 338)
270, leave it at your inlaws, unless it's a Pre 64, and use the 06.
25-06, great choice
243, use any of the above for deer.

Hope the snow melts soon, it's going to be 60 here again today.

 

[Vince]

I'm in agreement with Bill.

Jack O'Conner said about the .270/30-06 debate that the 30-06 could do everything the .270 could and just a little better. That makes the .270 redundant and he was it's biggest fan. I see a lot of overlap between calibers in your cartridge selection which is fine. I'm assuming these are the calibers you already own.

There is nothing wrong with overlap as I have a bit myself in my cartridge choices too. One of my overlaps is the 30-06. I selected it, not for the caliber, for the features on the bullet delivery system. It's a stainless rifle. Other than that I likely wouldn't own it. I plan to have three main rifles set up like this:

.338 Win Mag, Elk/Deer/Moose/Antelope/Everything Else (All Around Rifle)
6.5 x 284, Deer/Antelope/Long Range Paper Puncher
.204 Ruger, Coyotes/Varmints

I also have a few other calibers but that's what I'm looking at as my main battery. The 30-06 will do duty as my foul weather brush gun unless I go in to Griz country. Then, inclement weather or not, the .338 is coming along. The 25-06, which I like a lot, will stay a safe Queen until I need to loan someone a rifle for deer/antelope/varmints or the wife wants to learn to hunt. It has a right handed action and I have vowed to not play with right handed actions outside of work on my rifles. The .223/5.56 is just for home defense/plinking/training as it's the bullet delivery system at work. I wish we could go back to the old days of a lever action as the bullet delivery system at work. I liked those.

Vince

 

[wisconsinteacher]

I hear what you are saying, but for the price, I am not passing up on the 7mm, 270 and 243. The reason for the double up on the 30-06 is simple. One my dad got for me when I turned 12 and the other is from my father in law before he passed away.

 

[Vince]

I hear what you are saying, but for the price, I am not passing up on the 7mm, 270 and 243. The reason for the double up on the 30-06 is simple. One my dad got for me when I turned 12 and the other is from my father in law before he passed away.

No worries. :grin:

I'd opt for the 7 Mag as a caliber in replacement of the .270 or 30-06 if long range, mostly deer or antelope, were on the menu. It has been used on elk, quite well, by many. It's nice to have choices and I fully understand keeping rifles/calibers that overlap or may not always be the best choice for a certain game species. There is no way I'd get rid of my 25-06 even if I don't shoot it much anymore.

You are blessed in that you have rifles from men in your life that were a great influence on you and that is an excellent way to cherish their memory. Nobody can fault you for that. My hunting partner shoots a 7 Mag and it's his main rifle for everything. Deer, elk, antelope, all have fallen to the 7 Mag. He'll never get rid of it.

I don't have any rifles from my dad. After WWII he wanted nothing to do with firearms again and couldn't see why anyone would want to kill a deer. He earned the right to make the decision that was right for him. He wouldn't even use a handgun in preventing an armed robbery and opted for a trained dog instead. The dog stayed with him in the bar when he was working or walking to the bank to drop off his deposits.

Besides, one can never have too many rifles. :grin:

Vince

 

[wildgene]

...for your 7mm RM, 100gr Sierras (go ahead & laugh, you'll be laughing 3X as hard when you see what kinda fun 100grs@ 3700fps is for plinking), a good 160/ 175gr. load for deer & elk, & moose & bear. My 7mm's are "hunting" rifles & since I rarely have to take a shot past 400yds. my priorities on bullet selection are terminal performance, accuracy, BC, & I'm willing to give up a little "bullet drop" for the better SD/energy (IMO) of the 175g. over the 160gr., just personal preference...

...I'd suggest you try the 75gr. Sierras & VMax in your .25-06 for "plinking" & personally, I'd favor the 90gr. Sierra BlitzKing w/ a .393 BC over the 85gr. BT, 87gr. Sierras or TNTs (BC .330) for a long range varmint load. All have proven very accurate for me but the .393 BC translates into over a foot less drop & almost a half less windage @ 500 M...

 

[dubyam]

Just "filling in" the 270Win and 7mmRemMag spots:

For the 270Win, for open country deer hunting, defined as nothing bigger than 250-300lbs white-tails, I'd opt for one of three bullets, in the order I'm going to discuss them. First, 140gr Nosler BT, because it's slippery, has plenty of SD for white-tails, and will also do duty for antelope, coyote, or whatever else you'd go after. Launching them from the 270Win will put them right at the 3000fps upper limit I use, or perhaps just below, depending on barrel length and your specific rifle's preference for powder charge. I have used the equivalent bullet (165gr) in 30-06 at about the same velocity (2920fps) on white-tails and this season had a doe at about 20yds take one through the ribs to very good effect. She ran about 50yds or so, and left me a good blood trail in the process. Not bad for hitting nothing substantial in terms of bone. I've had other deer drop to that rifle with the same bullet at ranges from 20yds out to a lasered 181. I have no doubts it will do the job well beyond that, too, and would take a 400yd shot with that setup with a good rest and light wind. Second choice would be the 140gr Partition. It's basically the same proposal as the BT, but with a little more drop. It will do anything you want on deer sized game, just like the 140gr BT. If the 140 doesn't shoot well in your rifle, I'd switch to the 150gr BT and run it as close to max as your rifle will accurately shoot. Alternately, you could switch to the 150gr Partition, but I think you won't need it if you try the other three first. One of them is bound to work well in your rifle.

For the 7mmRemMag, I'd look at 140-150gr bullets as well, though I'd consider something of more robust construction (Partition, E-Tip, or AccuBond). In fact, a 150gr E-Tip launched at 3100fps would be a great deer/antelope bullet, based on the performance I've seen of E-Tips from bow range out beyond 200yds on white-tails when launched in the 3000-3400fps range. I know folks, including myself, will tell you deer don't require premium bullets, but I'll also tell you I've had great results with E-Tips from magnum rifles at varying ranges. I'm itching to try one on a 300+ yard shot to get absolute confirmation they work beyond the 200-220yd range I've seen them perform so far. Based on the performance at that range, I have no doubts about performance out beyond 300. With that 150gr E-Tip launched at 3100fps from the 7mmRemMag, I'd be confident out to 400 for sure, and even at 500 you still have between 2100-2200fps of impact velocity to initiate proper expansion.

 

[Silentstalker]

I have had extremely good success withe the 150 gr. Ballistic Tip and 150 gr. Partition in my .270. Extremely accurate and effective on deer, antelope, and elk. As mentioned above, the 140 would be great too.

In the 7 mag, i always liked the 160 gr. AccuBond in mine. I'm sure the 162 gr. SST would be a tack driver too.

Good luck with the new rifles. Its always fun adding to the collection!

 

[6mm Remington]

338wm 225 Interlocks or 210 Partitions (deer/elk) Both are very good.
30-06 180 AccuBond (deer/elk) Great bullet for what you list.
30-06 165 Partitions (deer/elk) Same as above. I only use the 165 gr. AccuBond or Partition in my 30-06 for elk,deer, antelope, coyotes.
7mm ????? (deer open country) My father used the 160 gr. Partition in his 7mm for everything but I think the AccuBond would be just as effective. I would shoot one of those two that was the most accurate in my rifle.
270 ???? (deer open country) Hard to beat a 130 gr. AccuBond or Partition out of a .270 for coyotes, antelope, deer, sheep, etc.!!!
25-06 110 AccuBond (deer) /87 Sierra (varmints) Really like the 25-06 and the 110 gr. AccuBond would be great for deer. The 120 gr. Partition is also another keeper.
243 95 Partition (deer) /70 Ballistic Tip (varmints) That Partition or the 100 gr. for deer is a keeper as is either the 90 gr. AccuBond or E-tip. My son Jeffrey has taken antelope and deer at a bit over 300 yards with his 6mm shooting the 90 gr. E-tip and one cow elk at 350 yards - one shot!

Thanks for the info and knowledge.

Those are my suggestions. All have been very good.
David

 

[ScreaminEagle]

Your missing a 22-250!

 

[wisconsinteacher]

I have a 22-250 that I did not add because it shoots 52gr Custom Comps and 55 Vmax bullets very well.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Just to keep the record straight, I have killed over a hundred deer with the .270 Winchester and 130/140 grain Partitions. Out of that number I have shot one deer more than once, at ranges from 100 to 425 yards.

 

[Divernhunter]

140gr PAR for the 7mm Rem Mag Also works just fine on elk.

No sugestion for the 270 as it is not suitable for hunting

 

[Oldtrader3]

For somebody who shoots a Remington 760, you certainly have it in for the .270 Winchester Model 70 in .270. My .270 Win is a custom Super Grade made in 1949 that I had a fancy French walnut stock made for it in 1972.

This rifle shoots 1-1/2 groups at 300 yards with 130 Partitions and has killed many, many deer, antelope, coyotes et al. Strangely, all with one shot since you think it strangely so incapable of killing game but then you shoot a rifle which is normally not accurate enough to even hit a deer at 425 yards and you tell me mine won't kill game?

It is one thing to tease about calibers and quite another to infer that a man is a liar, a man whom you don't even know to boot! Anytime that you want to shoot against my .270 Winchester custom at 300 yards with your 760 Remington, let me know?

 

[FOTIS]

I am not one to bitch about overlap (all the bee calibers) so buy them all and alternate bleeding them.

 

[CatskillCrawler]

If the rifles had no sentimental value to me, I would sell the 7mmRM, and two of the three from your .270 and 30-06s and build a custom 280AI from the one you didn't sell.

 

[Guy Miner]

You've got 7 rifles listed on the opening post, all of which say "deer" after them.

Sell five and go on a great western guided hunt, pack horses, high mountains... The real west...

Just a thought, from a guy with too many rifles himself. :grin:

 

[yellow dog]

this seems like a simple question.

ill give a simple answer.

7mm..... 160 AccuBond

.270 ....140 AccuBond.

have used both and am quite enamored.