41rem
Mr 1 grain under max
- Jun 8, 2015
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What does the crowd think? Numbers seen to match up in the few cartridge's I've checked.
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Staball HD Substitute for Reloder 26
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TEXASforLIFE
Handloader
- May 24, 2020
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I never trying 26, do have some HD and match along the 6.5 to try when I get around to it
highoctane
Handloader
- Apr 20, 2018
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Ive never tried any of the Winchester variants. I've read that HD is slightly faster than 26. Not sure what you are wanting to substitute it in but I really don't see why HD would not work.
Of course HD is a double base powder and RL26 is an extruded stick powder, and has different burn characteristics, charge weights will be different. Find a starting load and work from there. Use a chronograph as well. Don't just go on case appearance. Good luck
Of course HD is a double base powder and RL26 is an extruded stick powder, and has different burn characteristics, charge weights will be different. Find a starting load and work from there. Use a chronograph as well. Don't just go on case appearance. Good luck
TEXASforLIFE
Handloader
- May 24, 2020
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Hodgdon has data for many cartridges in the HD powder.
Backcast88
Beginner
- Sep 15, 2012
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I tried StaBall HD in 6.5PRC. The only way to describe it was, terrible.
ES and SD were way to high. Velocity was never close to any published data. Got okay accuracy with 140 ELD-M but all other bullets did not produce acceptable results.
H4831sc and N565 were much better options in my rifle. N565 was what I settled on. It produced the best combination of speed/accuracy/ES/SD. 4831sc was a give and take. I got accuracy/ES/SD but slow speed. Or I got the speed and accuracy suffered. I didn't have that problem with N565 so I bought several lbs and stayed with it
StaBall HD became fouler loads to warm up the barrel and nothing more.
ES and SD were way to high. Velocity was never close to any published data. Got okay accuracy with 140 ELD-M but all other bullets did not produce acceptable results.
H4831sc and N565 were much better options in my rifle. N565 was what I settled on. It produced the best combination of speed/accuracy/ES/SD. 4831sc was a give and take. I got accuracy/ES/SD but slow speed. Or I got the speed and accuracy suffered. I didn't have that problem with N565 so I bought several lbs and stayed with it
StaBall HD became fouler loads to warm up the barrel and nothing more.
pharmseller
Handloader
- Feb 13, 2012
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Dang, I just tried HD in a friend’s 6.5 PRC with 156 EOL. Only 3 shots over the chrono but I got 2809 average from the 20” barrel (cut for a can), SD 7, ES 14. Four shot group at the range was 0.32”.
Worked pretty well.
- Oct 30, 2004
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RS Magnum, or RS Grand might get you there.
Ridge_Runner
Handloader
- Sep 29, 2006
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alliant powders are double based also, though it is in stick form.
Does Staball HD recommend a MAG primer ? maybe this is your problem ? I don't know , just a guess I have .
Ridge_Runner
Handloader
- Sep 29, 2006
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Got a few loaded with magpro, and H1000 to test, then RS magnum is next on the list. RE 25 does ok, but looking for something a bit more consistent.
Alaska
Handloader
- Aug 20, 2006
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Ramshot Grand is replacement for RL 26
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Hunter26
Handloader
- Jul 10, 2024
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Not sure I'd call it a replacement for R26. Ive had pretty good accuracy in my 6.5 & 7mm PRC's with Staball HD but velocity has been quite a bit lower than what the manuals say.
Backcast88
Beginner
- Sep 15, 2012
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I tried so many primers and never had great luck with it. I used CCI 250, Rem 9-1/2 Mag, Winchester LRM, CCI 200, and Winchester LR. The only thing that shot half way decent was the Rem 9-1/2M with 140 ELD-M over book max loaded right to the lands. ES/SD was okay but still double what I was getting with n565 and n565 was just as fast and far more consistent accuracy wise.
I have had some good luck with regular StaBall 6.5 in my 30-06. But me and StaBall HD did not get along.
Backcast88
Beginner
- Sep 15, 2012
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I know a couple buddies have had success with it. Me and my Seekins just couldn't find anything agreeable with StaBall HD. I have had good luck with StaBall 6.5 in my 30-06 so I don't object the product line. I just never had much luck with HD, especially considering n565 shot so well and was actually easier to find locally.
If you've got a good load with HD, I would run with it. I just have too many other powders at my disposal to not have any need to buy StaBall HD again.
