longrangehunter
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- Jun 19, 2011
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Funny how everyone pointed out to toss it under the bus..... and take it off your hands! The only problem I see with this is which side the bolt is on! :roll: lolJD338":1hc68het said:
I hate the .308 Winchester cartridge!
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gerry
Ammo Smith
- Mar 1, 2007
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Nice, and I see it has the bolt on the proper side 
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ethmoid1999
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Mighty fine!
Blkram
Handloader
- Nov 25, 2013
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As DrMike can attest to, the Winchesters make fine jack handles too! LOL
At least your in your right mind!
All kidding aside, nice shooting!
At least your in your right mind!
All kidding aside, nice shooting!
6mm Remington
Ammo Smith
- Feb 27, 2006
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I didn't even know that the old boy (308) would deliver a bullet to 900 yards! I figured they would trail off and bite the dust at around 600 yards. :lol: :lol:
Nice shooting! Take that you new fangled 6.5 and 6mm Creedmore and the 300 RPC.
David
Nice shooting! Take that you new fangled 6.5 and 6mm Creedmore and the 300 RPC.
David
You guys are all kidding, this is terrible grouping, imagine he was fighting a group of Islamic Nazi Commie UN alien invaders or was trying to hunt a bunch of hogs at the same time: all of the shots ended up in the same place, and the rest of the targets are unharmed!
... seriously, I can never have enough fun with my PTR-91, .308 is easily one of my favorite rounds to shoot. I've got a friend with a SBR AR-10 build (14", if I'm not mistaken) with which he proved me that the good ol' NATO cartridge doesn't necessarily need a long barrel to achieve very satisfactory results!
... seriously, I can never have enough fun with my PTR-91, .308 is easily one of my favorite rounds to shoot. I've got a friend with a SBR AR-10 build (14", if I'm not mistaken) with which he proved me that the good ol' NATO cartridge doesn't necessarily need a long barrel to achieve very satisfactory results!
DrMike
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- Nov 8, 2006
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Kilo_SSK":2ztabc9k said:
Wow! Haven't had to fight off any of those hordes in, oh, at least a week or so. I thought they were all eradicated.
Welcome aboard.
Alaska
Handloader
- Aug 20, 2006
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Great shooting !
There will always be a 308 Win in my house !
Yes Varget most excellent
44.1
WW Brass
180 Nosler Part
CCI BR2 Primer
There will always be a 308 Win in my house !
Yes Varget most excellent
44.1
WW Brass
180 Nosler Part
CCI BR2 Primer
xphunter
Handloader
- Sep 15, 2005
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5-Shots with a called flyer at 600 yards.
200.20X Berger's
200.20X Berger's
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I see your point. :? Very discouraging, without a doubt. :mrgreen: Some fine shooting, sir.
Great shooting Ernie, even with the pulled shot.5-Shots with a called flyer at 600 yards.
200.20X Berger's
JD338
xphunter
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Thanks.
That was actually Dan shooting my F-TR rifle, getting it ready for the SWN's (South West Nationals... or the old name: Berger South West Nationals). Seb was coming over to compete, so we were developing a new load with the 200.20X Hybrids. I had been using the older Berger 200 Hybrids before that.
I may be going out on a limb here but this is just my honest appraisal of the .308 as experienced by me.
First, a bit of history. I never had .308 as I thought it was a 30-06 want to be that just didn't cut it. I didn't have any interest in the cartridge until 1973 when too many years of being a heavy smoker made the bubba job 1903A3 Springfield weigh too much at the higher elevations where I usually hunted while living in Nevada. The only lightweight rifle at the local hardware store was a Remington 660 in .308 so with some misgivings I bought it, a Bushnell 4X scope and a few boxes of 150 gr. Remington ammo. Man, that thing was loud and kicked like an angry mule. When my birthday came around my kids bought me a pair of those Mickey Mouse hearing protectors and two things became apparent, One the kick was seriously diminished and two, so was the loud report from the 20" barrel which is what I think made the recoil seem so nasty. That fall while hunting with a couple of friends I made a fine shot on a Mule Deer that when we paced it off was 426 paces. Hmmm, maybe the .308 isn't as bad as I thought and hunted with it most of the time until I moved from Nevada to Tucson. I used it a bit there until I found a Ruger M77RSI for a low price. The original owner couldn't get a good group and it took me two years to find something that would work. I've hunted deer with that rifle ever since. A few years later I won second place in a raffle for a .300 Weatherby rifle. It was a Winchester youth model 70 in, you guessed it, .308 Win. I dumped the cheap birch stock and bedded it into a Ramline I found at a gun show which brings all this upto date.
Once I got a chronograph curiosity struck and I ran a few factory rounds of .308 vs 30-06. The loads tested were Winchester 180 gr. power point ammo as that's what I had on hand. Long story short, five rounds of each cartridge over the chronograph with the .308 being roughly 20 FPS faster that the 30-06. Rifles used in the test were the M70 on the Ramline stock against a Remington M700 BDL; both rifles with 22" barrels. The only major difference was the M70's barrel had a 1 in 12" twist and the Remington a 1 in 10" twist. I do think that if the M70 had had a 1 in 10" barrel velocity would have been a bit higher.
I have to admit that over the years I've used the .308, I've gained quite a bit of respect for the cartridge, even when it was handicapped by the Ruger RSI's 18.5" barrel. I took quite a few deer with it with the longest shot right at 250 yards plus or minus a yard. Neither the M660 or RSI ever broke my arches down at higher elevations and I also believe that quitting smoking back in 1975 went a long way towards helping in that situation. It took a while but yes, I like the .308.
Paul B.
First, a bit of history. I never had .308 as I thought it was a 30-06 want to be that just didn't cut it. I didn't have any interest in the cartridge until 1973 when too many years of being a heavy smoker made the bubba job 1903A3 Springfield weigh too much at the higher elevations where I usually hunted while living in Nevada. The only lightweight rifle at the local hardware store was a Remington 660 in .308 so with some misgivings I bought it, a Bushnell 4X scope and a few boxes of 150 gr. Remington ammo. Man, that thing was loud and kicked like an angry mule. When my birthday came around my kids bought me a pair of those Mickey Mouse hearing protectors and two things became apparent, One the kick was seriously diminished and two, so was the loud report from the 20" barrel which is what I think made the recoil seem so nasty. That fall while hunting with a couple of friends I made a fine shot on a Mule Deer that when we paced it off was 426 paces. Hmmm, maybe the .308 isn't as bad as I thought and hunted with it most of the time until I moved from Nevada to Tucson. I used it a bit there until I found a Ruger M77RSI for a low price. The original owner couldn't get a good group and it took me two years to find something that would work. I've hunted deer with that rifle ever since. A few years later I won second place in a raffle for a .300 Weatherby rifle. It was a Winchester youth model 70 in, you guessed it, .308 Win. I dumped the cheap birch stock and bedded it into a Ramline I found at a gun show which brings all this upto date.
Once I got a chronograph curiosity struck and I ran a few factory rounds of .308 vs 30-06. The loads tested were Winchester 180 gr. power point ammo as that's what I had on hand. Long story short, five rounds of each cartridge over the chronograph with the .308 being roughly 20 FPS faster that the 30-06. Rifles used in the test were the M70 on the Ramline stock against a Remington M700 BDL; both rifles with 22" barrels. The only major difference was the M70's barrel had a 1 in 12" twist and the Remington a 1 in 10" twist. I do think that if the M70 had had a 1 in 10" barrel velocity would have been a bit higher.
I have to admit that over the years I've used the .308, I've gained quite a bit of respect for the cartridge, even when it was handicapped by the Ruger RSI's 18.5" barrel. I took quite a few deer with it with the longest shot right at 250 yards plus or minus a yard. Neither the M660 or RSI ever broke my arches down at higher elevations and I also believe that quitting smoking back in 1975 went a long way towards helping in that situation. It took a while but yes, I like the .308.
Paul B.
xphunter
Handloader
- Sep 15, 2005
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I just bought a Custom center-grip XP-100, in all things...308 Winchester.
I thought I was done buying XP's-This One Spoke To Me
I thought I was done buying XP's-This One Spoke To Me
