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Per Norma brass - sometimes I see it sold as a "Norma's shooter pack." Is there anything different about a shooter's pack or is it just different packaging?

Well amazingly I do see a bit of brass available. I was thinking it was just new old stock but if Norma (and Hornady) are actually making runs of it maybe things aren't completely lost. 25-06 has never had great brass anyway

I, like many of you, am a 25-06 fan. But I have to wonder what it's future is. It seems to be one of the most neglected cartridges around. You cannot buy good brass for it - Lapua, ADG, Peterson, etc. never has and never will manufacture it. I believe there used to be Nosler brass but they took...

Great thread. I wish the 7 SAUM and 300 RCM were commercially popular today.

Yes sir thank you for the help. And @hunter24605 got me sorted out with the GRT software which is amazing so disregard my QuickLoad requests.

Turns out it may have been an out of spec chamber. It's a SAAMI chamber now. I would still appreciate if anyone could run my numbers in quick load it sure would be helpful for new brass and a short barrel

My fired brass is .345. With bullet seated, .342. A WW shell with bullet seated is .336, for comparison. I wonder if I should just full length resize or use a lee neck collet die on the fresh brash. Some of these seat and feel like they have hardly any neck tension.

Thanks Blkram, what would you back off to?

I just measured 6 shell's water capacity with RO water on my better scale and came up with an average of 81.3gr. Low - 81.2, high 81.5. I measured a WIN case I had no problems with 64gr RL 17 and it had a water capacity of 82.4. I would sure appreciate if someone could tell me what QuickLoad...

I am struggling a little with new ADG brass. I know it is thicker and has less capacity, so I did a ladder from Nosler book load for my 300 WSM of RL17, 180 NAB, REM 9/12M primer starting at 62. I made it to 63.2 and say pressure signs - ejector mark, heavier bolt lift. I saw a velocity...

not necessarily. and it's a small sample size, I've just seen it a few times, but it occurs. I just thought the "mini" groups might be a known anomaly, I'm in agreement with DrMike I should just ignore it and look at the whole group, which needs work ;)

These bullets are seated at .21 off of the lands, how am I all over the place on seating depth? Barnes will typically shoot well seated very deep. I guess my Accubond comment was unrelated, just trying to say it does shoot other bullets well at different depths, but that's a different bullet...

I would say just this rifle. I have a Tikka that consistently puts shots touching, but the groups are nicer. I did check the scope and action torque, thanks guys. The LRX, I can't seat any deeper, I'll be out of bearing surface. The TTSX I could go a bit deeper. I can't seat any closer than...

Thanks DrMike. What would your advice generally be to tighten up?

What would you say about consistently having groups of 2 shots grouping, but those groups not grouping together. Pictures to explain. One pic is 175 LRX, one is 180 TTSX, both at approximately same seating depth (deep). When I don't seat as deep the groups just open up. Could it be my scope...

Never used 22 but love MRP. I have read MRP is A grade RL22, not sure if that's true but when I'm out of MRP I'll be trying to find some RL22!

I think this is a good question, if I understand correctly. I've always done a ladder test, then adjusted seating depth. But does adjusting seating depth throw your ladder test out the window? Is your velocity now in a different node? Recently I read a suggestion to shoot a few groups at a...

I had in my mind the blued/black stock entry level model when I spoke. I have one of those, and it is probably my most accurate rifle to be honest. The new roughtecs and veil models are very nice looking too. But who cares they all shoot! I'm in the market for another tikka now.

I'm a huge Tikka fan. Saying that it wins a beauty contest kind of cracks me up though, and I agree 100% - Savages are well, savage looking. It's the barrel nut. But a Tikka isn't what I'd call "pretty." I guess when there's only 2 contestants one of them has to win!

I'm the other Barnes guy LOL