223 bonded bullet

[freestylmx]

Will Nosler PLEASE make a bonded bullet in .224? Everyone is so obsessed with varmint bullets in .224 but there is a big need for a bonded bullet.
Why not make an AccuBond in .224? The only decent bullet I can find is a scirocco but they are insane expensive and only come in 75gr
An AccuBond or a soft point bonded bullet would be great from Nosler in 55gr and 60-65gr.
Maybe even make a ballistic tip with a stronger jacket that isnt in the varmint form?

 

[DrMike]

Welcome to the forum, freestylmx. Keep your plea in front of people. Perhaps someone will salute your flag; you can never tell.

 

[JD338]

freestylmx

Welcome to the forum.

A 55 gr AB would be a great coyote bullet. :idea:

JD338

 

[Ridge_Runner]

whats wrong with the 60 gr Partition? there is the 55 gr trophy bonded bear claw, the 64 gr win power point, scads of x-bullets.
RR

 

[freestylmx]

whats wrong with the 60 gr Partition? there is the 55 gr trophy bonded bear claw, the 64 gr win power point, scads of x-bullets.
RR

out of those three the only one that is a bonded bullet is the tbbc which you can not buy anywhere anymore in 223, trust me Ive looked EVERYWHERE for that bullet.
But the 60 gr Partition is the best hunting bullet for the 223 thats available right now. I think Nosler makes some of the best bullets around and would love for them to come out with a bonded 223.
For some reason component bullets in 223 that are bonded are just not available anywhere.
Federal has the 62gr fusions but not as a component. Remington and Winchester also have a 223 bonded but they wont release them as components for some reason (or Im just not looking in the right places)
The TBBC would be my 1st choice but it is gone. I think the military is using them up in the Federal MK318 mod 0 load so Im assuming that is why they are non existent.

Im not a fan of the Barns tsx because they rely on high velocity to perform and are only affective at short distances, otherwise theyll just poke a little hole with zero expansion. Short range they are fantastic however

 

[Jerry 919]

Nosler already makes a 64 grain bonded .224 bullet. Product #SB2264. Bonded Solid Base with a cannelure. Try 23.5 grains Benchmark with Federal 205 Match primers. Call Shooter's Pro Shop 541-312-2506. Shoots under .5 inch at 100 yards in both of my AR's and bolt action heavy barrel Howa 1500.

Jerry 919
Bend, Oregon

 

[JD338]

Nosler already makes a 64 grain bonded .224 bullet. Product #SB2264. Bonded Solid Base with a cannelure. Try 23.5 grains Benchmark with Federal 205 Match primers. Call Shooter's Pro Shop 541-312-2506. Shoots under .5 inch at 100 yards in both of my AR's and bolt action heavy barrel Howa 1500.

Jerry 919
Bend, Oregon

Jerry,

I didn't realize this!
Will this bullet stabailze in a 1:14 twist?

JD338

 

[JD338]

Here is the scoop....
Nosler makes a Bonded .224 cal 64 gr bullet for a non disclosed application.
Bullet length is .787" so it just might work in a 1:14 twist!

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

Huh! I feel dumb!


any links?

 

[Ridge_Runner]

wow, I can see my 8 twist AR pulling double duty in antlerless season. If I can find them.BTW they should work in a 14 at 22-250 velocities.
RR

 

[freestylmx]

Nosler already makes a 64 grain bonded .224 bullet. Product #SB2264. Bonded Solid Base with a cannelure. Try 23.5 grains Benchmark with Federal 205 Match primers. Call Shooter's Pro Shop 541-312-2506. Shoots under .5 inch at 100 yards in both of my AR's and bolt action heavy barrel Howa 1500.

Jerry 919
Bend, Oregon

wow, thanks! Your the first person to tell me this and Ive asked a lot of people. Ill give them a call tomorrow.
Do you know if Nosler will ship them direct or can I have one of their local distributers order them for me if the location you provided doesnt have them?
Thanks again!

 

[velvetant]

Here is the scoop....
Nosler makes a Bonded .224 cal 64 gr bullet for a non disclosed application.
Bullet length is .787" so it just might work in a 1:14 twist!

JD338

So where do we find these??????????

 

[freestylmx]

Here is the scoop....
Nosler makes a Bonded .224 cal 64 gr bullet for a non disclosed application.
Bullet length is .787" so it just might work in a 1:14 twist!

JD338

ok where did you find those pics?

The "non disclosed application" must be shooting people through barriers lol.
These are what Im looking for for my AR though...Id love to find them

 

[Jerry 919]

The best resource would be the Pro Shop. I do not know how widely they are distributed. The design concept was to meet Law Enforcement needs. Shot a magazine full at some junk car doors with the glass intact and rolled down. Bullet penetrated outer skin, the glass and inner skin and would have severely damaged anything seated inside. Bullets were pretty mangled but would have caught someone's attention. Will try on coyotes this weekend.

Jerry 919
Bend, Oregon

 

[Guy Miner]

Our .223 duty ammo is the Federal stuff, with the 55 grain bonded bullet.

Wicked little rascal with excellent performance. If the question is deer - we've used it to take down a few injured mule deer after collisions with vehicles, getting tangled & mangled in fences and having run-ins with the local dogs & coyotes. The bonded 55 gr .223 is a killer, pure and simple.

 

[Jerry 919]

I took the pictures and e-mailed them to JD.

It is a very tough bullet.

Jerry 919
Bend, Oregon

 

[freestylmx]

Our .223 duty ammo is the Federal stuff, with the 55 grain bonded bullet.

Wicked little rascal with excellent performance. If the question is deer - we've used it to take down a few injured mule deer after collisions with vehicles, getting tangled & mangled in fences and having run-ins with the local dogs & coyotes. The bonded 55 gr .223 is a killer, pure and simple.

which makes me wonder why NOBODY will sell them as components. Hornady has their 62gr barrier round, Nosler could sell theirs, Remington, Winchester, Federal, Speer all have one but wont sell them.
I dont understand why? Does anyone know why? You can find bonded bullets in every single caliber above .223 but for some reason a bonded bullet in .223 as a component is like finding gold.
a 55, 65 and 75 grain AccuBond would be awesome

 

[baltz526]

That bonded 64gr is a great idea. But not needed for impact velocitys found out of a 223 rem for game. 22-250, 220 swift velocity might give it a good platform. But again there are great game bullts already out there for the higher impact velocitys. I shoot the 64gr winchester power point, but there are great game bullets in 60gr, 62gr, 63gr, 64gr, 70gr. A bonded .22 bullet for LE makes a lot of sense. A bonded .22 for game is completely un-needed and in my opinion a bad idea, unless you are shooting hogs or using a 22-250/220 swift and hitting the game at short ranges. Bullet length is interesting And i have a few for comparison. 64gr win PP .805"- 70gr speer .790"- 55gr nosler BT .805"

 

[freestylmx]

That bonded 64gr is a great idea. But not needed for impact velocitys found out of a 223 rem for game. 22-250, 220 swift velocity might give it a good platform. But again there are great game bullts already out there for the higher impact velocitys. I shoot the 64gr winchester power point, but there are great game bullets in 60gr, 62gr, 63gr, 64gr, 70gr. A bonded .22 bullet for LE makes a lot of sense. A bonded .22 for game is completely un-needed and in my opinion a bad idea, unless you are shooting hogs or using a 22-250/220 swift and hitting the game at short ranges. Bullet length is interesting And i have a few for comparison. 64gr win PP .805"- 70gr speer .790"- 55gr nosler BT .805"

I agree that a bonded bullet needs high velocity to work well and is probably better off in a 22-250, but a 223 can launch a 55gr over 3000 fps and a 64 gr pretty close to 3000 fps. I think it IS a good idea for the 223 to use one for hunting game like white tail deer, hogs, and other game of that size. Its also a good bullet for barriers, self defense, etc. (Ive been going back and forth with fragmenting vs bonded and have decided I like the bonded better for all around use)
I feel a good bonded bullet is the best all around type. Some dont need extreme velocities. The AccuBond opens up quite nice at lower velocities. Im sure they can make a bonded bullet with a thin upper jacket that would open well at lower speeds.
People really seem to love the solids like the barnes tsx in 223 and those rely on extreme velocity to perform, otherwise they dont do anything other than poke a .22 size hole

 

[C.Smith]

I will have to look into these bullets.

Corey