25-06 and RL17?

[FOTIS]

Anyone try this?


Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 100, Nosler BalTip 25100
Useable Case Capaci: 61.285 grain H2O = 3.979 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 73 43.20 2725 1649 31746 10466 96.6 1.428
-18.0 75 44.28 2790 1729 33886 10734 97.5 1.393
-16.0 77 45.36 2855 1810 36168 10981 98.3 1.359
-14.0 78 46.44 2920 1893 38603 11206 98.9 1.320
-12.0 80 47.52 2984 1977 41199 11406 99.4 1.281
-10.0 82 48.60 3047 2062 43973 11581 99.8 1.243
-08.0 84 49.68 3110 2147 46934 11730 100.0 1.207
-06.0 86 50.76 3172 2234 50097 11852 100.0 1.171
-04.0 87 51.84 3233 2320 53478 11964 100.0 1.137
-02.0 89 52.92 3293 2407 57091 12072 100.0 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 91 54.00 3352 2495 60916 12177 100.0 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 93 55.08 3411 2583 64980 12279 100.0 1.044 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 95 56.16 3469 2672 69305 12378 100.0 1.015 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 97 57.24 3526 2761 73912 12473 100.0 0.987 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 98 58.32 3583 2851 78821 12565 100.0 0.960 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 100 59.40 3640 2942 84058 12653 100.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 91 54.00 3416 2592 67153 11961 100.0 1.032 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 91 54.00 3272 2378 54721 12439 100.0 1.122

 

[truck driver]

I don't have a 25-06 Fotis but that looks like a screamer to me, 54grs at 3352.

 

[FOTIS]

I know. Not having any RL22 on hand My choices are limited.

 

[wbyfan1]

Fotis,

5 shot groups of around an inch and 3350 fps were the norm with 53.5 gr and a 100 BT. This was with a 24 in. barreled Rem 700 Classic. Accuracy was a skosh better with the Sierra 100 gr. Pro Hunters. (1620).

 

[FOTIS]

Works for me dude!

rl17 i CAN GET TIME TO TIME

 

[wbyfan1]

If you have any H4831, I'd give it a try. It IS by far and away the best powder I've found for the 25-06. Not quite as fast velocity wise as RL17, 19 or 22, but much more consistently accurate.

 

[SJB358]

That looks cool Fotis. I'm actually wanting to mess with 100 BTs. I happen to have some RL17 as well.

 

[Guy Miner]

If you have any H4831, I'd give it a try. It IS by far and away the best powder I've found for the 25-06. Not quite as fast velocity wise as RL17, 19 or 22, but much more consistently accurate.

Messing around with the 100's, I agree. The best group I ever shot with a .25-06 was with 100 gr Sierra SPBT Gamekings and H4831. Not blisteringly fast, but extremely accurate, and fast enough.

My favorite with the 100's though is H4350. No problem at all reaching 3350 fps with good accuracy. My load is at 3340 fps, from the 24" Remington tube. It's a deer slayer too.

Regards, Guy

 

[SJB358]

Great info Guy. I need to work with the 100's one of these days.

 

[Guy Miner]

Scotty - I don't know what the actual figures are, but I swear I can feel the difference in recoil from a 100 gr load vs a 115 gr load in the .25-06 rifle.

Might be worth running the numbers just to check, but the 115's feel like they've got a bit harder shove to me. The 100's feel like a .243...

Guy

 

[richardca99]

I just worked up to 53 grains of RL-17 with the 100 grain TTSX and got 3274 average with SD of 10. This was in a 22.5 inch Sako. Impressive velocity, good accuracy, and no pressure signs.


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[SJB358]

Scotty - I don't know what the actual figures are, but I swear I can feel the difference in recoil from a 100 gr load vs a 115 gr load in the .25-06 rifle.

Might be worth running the numbers just to check, but the 115's feel like they've got a bit harder shove to me. The 100's feel like a .243...

Guy

I am not sure how to run the numbers either Guy, but I know when I slowed the 115 PT's down to 3000 for Lori, she really seemed to enjoy shooting the rifle much more. Running the 120 A-Frames at 3150 were almost at her limit till she shoots some more.

I am going to try the 100's. Probably the next time I catch the 100 BT's on SPS, I will load my cart with a few hundred. With as much as you all rave about them, I gotta try em. You all haven't let me down yet with a solid recommendation..

 

[FOTIS]

If you have any H4831, I'd give it a try. It IS by far and away the best powder I've found for the 25-06. Not quite as fast velocity wise as RL17, 19 or 22, but much more consistently accurate.

nope :evil:

 

[truck driver]

Fotis you seem to be a day late and a pound of powder short. :lol:

 

[Horsethief]

26" barrel with 52gn RL-19 and 117gn Hornady Interlocks was a super fast and sub MOA load. I sold that rifle, but got another great one....

 

[Wincheringen]

Do you have any IMR4350? Please tell me you have some IMR 4350!

On a side note I stopped by my local shop today and the shelves were completely full of all powders. Then I woke up. Well, they were full in real life, but it was all Varget, W748, IMR 4895, IMR 4064, AA No 7, IMR 7828, and a few others.

 

[SJB358]

Do you have any IMR4350? Please tell me you have some IMR 4350!

On a side note I stopped by my local shop today and the shelves were completely full of all powders. Then I woke up. Well, they were full in real life, but it was all Varget, W748, IMR 4895, IMR 4064, AA No 7, IMR 7828, and a few others.

Man, I would have dropped some coin if I would have dropped by there!

 

[JD338]

RL17 looks impressive, might be worth a try.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

I d have 4350

 

[elkeater2]

I didn't get the accuracy with RL17 I get with a couple of the others. I have had good results with RL25, RL22, and 7828ssc - all cuz of data you posted for someone else a long time ago!
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