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Bruce Mc":9at139q3 said:
Why is it that almost every post here ends up being about the 35 Whelen. Whats the deal here? Does somebody get a royalty off 35 Whelen brass or rifles? :lol: Guess I'll have to get one so I can participate. I still have a Rem 700 .270 thats crying for a rebarrel.

Dunno if I can answer that queastion in an intelligent manner. After reading "KEITH, An Autobioraphy" a book which Elmer hated BTW, and "Hell I Was There " later, got my curiosity up big time after reading where he tangled with a big Grizzly Bear up close and personal.
One day, at a gun show I found a Ruger M77RS tang safety rifle chambered to the Whelen and got it for a decent price. I found that Remington factory ammo is a tad scarce here in Tucson but did manage to get a supply. It had a piece of wood that was too pretty to hunt so I put it in a ramline stock and started working up loads.
A few months later at another gun show, I came across a fellow selling a Remington M700 Classic in the Whelen and it too came home with me. :grin:
About two weeks later at another gun show, I found someone's extremly nice custom rifle, again a .35 Whelen as part of an estate sale. How nice was this custom? On the way home I stopped off at my friendly gun shop to get a scoe and rings for the gun. Bases were already there. The guy at the counter took one look at the rifle, asked the caliber and flat out offered me $3K for the gun then and there. :shock: I turned him down.
I worked up a few loads with 250 gr. bullets but had a chance to hunt the Kaibab National Forest in Northern Arizona. (I somehow got lucky and drew a coveted tag) and hunters were asked to volunteer to use all copper bullets as the area is considered part of the Condor flyway. I've been lucky enough to hunt there four times in the last 30 years and I've never seen one of those overgrown buzzards yet. :roll: Well, i'll go along with the program and worked up a load with the 225 gr. Barnes TSX. I was shocked when I got groups in the .50" to .75" range consistantly. That custom Mauser would shoot. The load cost me the only shootable der I saw that year :( because if I'd shot him, that barnes bullet would have passed clean through him aand would have taken out at least one or two of the does hanging out with him. Game & Fish kind of frown on such doings.
I didn't get chance to hunt (didn't draw tags for anything dammit!) so in 2009 I did a guided antelope hut with my .270 and the 150 gr. Sierra game King which worked out beautifully. In 2010 I hunted a cow elk with the same outfitter and finally got a chance to use that beautiful custom rifle on game. I mentioned the results in an earlier post in this room.
Right now I'm hanging fire waiting for the results of the elk and antelope draws here in AZ. I wonder what my odds of drawing are gonna be? haven't drawn for antelope yet in the 33 years I've been here. It's been 8, or is it 9 years since I drew for elk and 6 years since I got a deer tag. :x I haven't ever drawn for Bighorn Sheep as well and haven't bothered to try for buffalo
However, sometimes elk and buffalo sneak over into the Kaibab and Game & Fish don't want them there. If you see some, you can go to the check out station and buy a tag for one of the trespassers which is one reason for the Whelen on that deer hunt. Apps for the deer hunts come out later in the year and I'll probably try for the Kaibab once more. Maybe I'll get lucky. :roll: If not, I'll probably call my friendly outfitter and do another cow elk hunt. Can't afford the prices for a bull elk and even the cow hunts have gone up. :(
You build that Whelen. That way you can see what the fuss is all about. Whelens rule. :wink: :lol: :lol:
Paul B.
 
PJGunner":1tzis05t said:
Bruce Mc":1tzis05t said:
Why is it that almost every post here ends up being about the 35 Whelen. Whats the deal here? Does somebody get a royalty off 35 Whelen brass or rifles? :lol: Guess I'll have to get one so I can participate. I still have a Rem 700 .270 thats crying for a rebarrel.

Dunno if I can answer that queastion in an intelligent manner. After reading "KEITH, An Autobioraphy" a book which Elmer hated BTW, and "Hell I Was There " later, got my curiosity up big time after reading where he tangled with a big Grizzly Bear up close and personal.
One day, at a gun show I found a Ruger M77RS tang safety rifle chambered to the Whelen and got it for a decent price. I found that Remington factory ammo is a tad scarce here in Tucson but did manage to get a supply. It had a piece of wood that was too pretty to hunt so I put it in a ramline stock and started working up loads.
A few months later at another gun show, I came across a fellow selling a Remington M700 Classic in the Whelen and it too came home with me. :grin:
About two weeks later at another gun show, I found someone's extremly nice custom rifle, again a .35 Whelen as part of an estate sale. How nice was this custom? On the way home I stopped off at my friendly gun shop to get a scoe and rings for the gun. Bases were already there. The guy at the counter took one look at the rifle, asked the caliber and flat out offered me $3K for the gun then and there. :shock: I turned him down.
I worked up a few loads with 250 gr. bullets but had a chance to hunt the Kaibab National Forest in Northern Arizona. (I somehow got lucky and drew a coveted tag) and hunters were asked to volunteer to use all copper bullets as the area is considered part of the Condor flyway. I've been lucky enough to hunt there four times in the last 30 years and I've never seen one of those overgrown buzzards yet. :roll: Well, i'll go along with the program and worked up a load with the 225 gr. Barnes TSX. I was shocked when I got groups in the .50" to .75" range consistantly. That custom Mauser would shoot. The load cost me the only shootable der I saw that year :( because if I'd shot him, that barnes bullet would have passed clean through him aand would have taken out at least one or two of the does hanging out with him. Game & Fish kind of frown on such doings.
I didn't get chance to hunt (didn't draw tags for anything dammit!) so in 2009 I did a guided antelope hut with my .270 and the 150 gr. Sierra game King which worked out beautifully. In 2010 I hunted a cow elk with the same outfitter and finally got a chance to use that beautiful custom rifle on game. I mentioned the results in an earlier post in this room.
Right now I'm hanging fire waiting for the results of the elk and antelope draws here in AZ. I wonder what my odds of drawing are gonna be? haven't drawn for antelope yet in the 33 years I've been here. It's been 8, or is it 9 years since I drew for elk and 6 years since I got a deer tag. :x I haven't ever drawn for Bighorn Sheep as well and haven't bothered to try for buffalo
However, sometimes elk and buffalo sneak over into the Kaibab and Game & Fish don't want them there. If you see some, you can go to the check out station and buy a tag for one of the trespassers which is one reason for the Whelen on that deer hunt. Apps for the deer hunts come out later in the year and I'll probably try for the Kaibab once more. Maybe I'll get lucky. :roll: If not, I'll probably call my friendly outfitter and do another cow elk hunt. Can't afford the prices for a bull elk and even the cow hunts have gone up. :(
You build that Whelen. That way you can see what the fuss is all about. Whelens rule. :wink: :lol: :lol:
Paul B.


It's just a fine cartridge. Since we are handloaders here we all seem to fall in love with those that are unpopular over the counter because of ballistic performance, since we can maximize performance from them. Examples 280, 257, 35 Whelen.
 
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