.257 Roberts

[PJGunner]

Ruger and Winchester currently chamber the Bob and both are in a long action. There will be no issues there. As for recoil in my opinion is less than that of the .243 and a better bullet selection.

Dunno about the Ruger but the Winchester has the magazine blocked. At least mine does. It's a push feed Featherweight. One of these years I'm going to chase down a full length magazine box and proper bolt stop and convert it to a proper full length action. I've thought about doing the same with my 7x57 Featherweight but it shoots too damn good to mess with. That's a case where, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 8)
Paul B.

 

[6mm Remington]

What weight Partitions would you use for deer and like-sized game out of the Roberts?

Joel I don't think there would be anything wrong with the 100, 115, or 120 gr. Partition, or the 110 gr. AccuBond. That 100 gr. E-tip would be great too if your rifle shoots it well. The 90 gr. in my son's 6mm Remington sure has performed incredibly.

I use the 100 gr. Partition in my 6mm and it works very well. I have even taken one spike bull with it. I shot him at 30 yards in real heavy timber. He was broadside but slightly turned and I hit him dead center in his right shoulder. The bullet went through his chest and exited out the left side in the neck area just in front of his left shoulder. He staggered a couple of steps and was finished, but I put on behind his ear just to expedite things.

David

 

[nvbroncrider]

Ruger and Winchester currently chamber the Bob and both are in a long action. There will be no issues there. As for recoil in my opinion is less than that of the .243 and a better bullet selection.

Dunno about the Ruger but the Winchester has the magazine blocked. At least mine does. It's a push feed Featherweight. One of these years I'm going to chase down a full length magazine box and proper bolt stop and convert it to a proper full length action. I've thought about doing the same with my 7x57 Featherweight but it shoots too damn good to mess with. That's a case where, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." 8)
Paul B.

They just reintroduced it this year, I haven't seen one but to me it wouldn't make any sense for a block being in there. The Ruger is definatley a long action. My brother has one and it's a sweetheart.

 

[SJB358]

Ruger and Winchester currently chamber the Bob and both are in a long action. There will be no issues there. As for recoil in my opinion is less than that of the .243 and a better bullet selection.

I would let one rest in my safe! :grin:

 

[nvbroncrider]

Ruger and Winchester currently chamber the Bob and both are in a long action. There will be no issues there. As for recoil in my opinion is less than that of the .243 and a better bullet selection.

I would let one rest in my safe! :grin:

Even a ruger?

 

[Oldtrader3]

Actually, loading the +P .257 Roberts cartridge to a more modern and normall SAAMI level of 52 KSI, the caliber somewhat out performs the .243 Winchester in velocity and energy at the muzzle which commutes to more recoil energy.

 

[SJB358]

Ruger and Winchester currently chamber the Bob and both are in a long action. There will be no issues there. As for recoil in my opinion is less than that of the .243 and a better bullet selection.

I would let one rest in my safe! :grin:

Even a ruger?

Maybe?

 

[nvbroncrider]

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They are a fine riifle. The three things I see that I like about a Ruger better than a Winchester are 1. The three position safety actually tucks into the cocking assembaly on the Mark II and newer. 2. I like the bolt release better, Mauser style. 3. Love the idea of having your scope mounts built into the receiver. It's just simple. Although I do believe Winchesters look better.

 

[Oldtrader3]

The Roberts is just a fine dual purpose cartridge in any bolt action rifle and it is one that is over 80 years old. It has nothing to prove anymore.

 

[Guy Miner]

The new Ruger Hawkeye rifles seem very nice indeed to me. The safety seems particularly well thought out and yes, I agree, that rock-solid Ruger scope mounting setup is good too.

The Roberts? Classic, just classic!

 

[SJB358]

I like the Rugers for all the same, but their mounting system doesn't work well for me. Doesn't leave alot of adjustment for a longer than normal neck. Other than that, Rugers are tanks. Solid as rocks and just a plain old great working rifle.

 

[338 Ultra]

The older I get the more sensable my cartridge choices are becoming. I think I may have finally learned how to hunt and not just shoot. I could have a 7 mag but my 280 with handloads is close enough. I could go back to the .338 win but if this past season is any indication my 35 Whelen is more than close enough with out knocking my filling's loose or ruining a lot of the eating parts. I will never part with My 300 Win mag one of the best cartridges around if you ask me when you need to cover a lot of ground hunting with a moderate weight rifle that can take big stuff with the right bullets out to extended ranges and not break your neck with recoil. My 338 ultra is staying put though even though it probably won't see as much action as it used to. It is nice to know when you need something like that you can reach for it.


Lets see If I had .222 Rem In Win 70 heavy barrel 26" a .257 Bob In a new Ruger Hawkeye a 6.5X55 in a Win Featherweight to go with my .280 .300 win and 35 Whelen and perhaps something like a 9.3x 62 or a 45-70 in one of those nice lever guns life would be about perfect.

Guess I best start sucking up to the boss

 

[SJB358]

The older I get the more sensable my cartridge choices are becoming. I think I may have finally learned how to hunt and not just shoot. I could have a 7 mag but my 280 with handloads is close enough. I could go back to the .338 win but if this past season is any indication my 35 Whelen is more than close enough with out knocking my filling's loose or ruining a lot of the eating parts. I will never part with My 300 Win mag one of the best cartridges around if you ask me when you need to cover a lot of ground hunting with a moderate weight rifle that can take big stuff with the right bullets out to extended ranges and not break your neck with recoil. My 338 ultra is staying put though even though it probably won't see as much action as it used to. It is nice to know when you need something like that you can reach for it.


Lets see If I had .222 Rem In Win 70 heavy barrel 26" a .257 Bob In a new Ruger Hawkeye a 6.5X55 in a Win Featherweight to go with my .280 .300 win and 35 Whelen and perhaps something like a 9.3x 62 or a 45-70 in one of those nice lever guns life would be about perfect.

Guess I best start sucking up to the boss

Another satisfied 35 Whelen owner! Haven't seen many that have used a Whelen ever complain much about it for hunting. Not a flatliner, but for most of the normal hunting we do, it works pretty darned good...

The 45-70 is a must have! The Whelen and 45-70 go hand in hand.. :twisted:

 

[338 Ultra]

The older I get the more sensable my cartridge choices are becoming. I think I may have finally learned how to hunt and not just shoot. I could have a 7 mag but my 280 with handloads is close enough. I could go back to the .338 win but if this past season is any indication my 35 Whelen is more than close enough with out knocking my filling's loose or ruining a lot of the eating parts. I will never part with My 300 Win mag one of the best cartridges around if you ask me when you need to cover a lot of ground hunting with a moderate weight rifle that can take big stuff with the right bullets out to extended ranges and not break your neck with recoil. My 338 ultra is staying put though even though it probably won't see as much action as it used to. It is nice to know when you need something like that you can reach for it.


Lets see If I had .222 Rem In Win 70 heavy barrel 26" a .257 Bob In a new Ruger Hawkeye a 6.5X55 in a Win Featherweight to go with my .280 .300 win and 35 Whelen and perhaps something like a 9.3x 62 or a 45-70 in one of those nice lever guns life would be about perfect.

Guess I best start sucking up to the boss

Another satisfied 35 Whelen owner! Haven't seen many that have used a Whelen ever complain much about it for hunting. Not a flatliner, but for most of the normal hunting we do, it works pretty darned good...

The 45-70 is a must have! The Whelen and 45-70 go hand in hand.. :twisted:

Well with what I have seen so far and that is not a lot, my 225 AB load shoots as flat as any hand loaded 180 grain I have used in 30-06 since I was a kid. Yes I have to do more work with the rifle and break out the chronograph just to see what the real numbers are and perhaps where I can go, but if nothing changes from my current load I will not be unhappy. This year should be a moose tag as I should have drawn last year and I am at about 66% for an Elk tag if not this year than 2013 will be for sure. Not too worried that the Whelen will put down a moose, really they are not armor plated and are pretty easy to kill unless it is in the rut and you have called in a bull and his testosterone has gone through the roof, them boys can take some lead trust me on that. My season is in November so with the rut over the moose are pretty relaxed and not to hard to put down with the proper shot. Elk on the other hand no matter the time of the year are tougher to put down. I have no idea why I have experienced this over the years but outside of my 338 ultra they do make some ground when lung shot with a lesser caliber. I know some of you guys are die hard Elk hunters and perhaps can explain the difference better than I can.

 

[PJGunner]

"Elk on the other hand no matter the time of the year are tougher to put down. I have no idea why I have experienced this over the years but outside of my 338 ultra they do make some ground when lung shot with a lesser caliber."

Can't comment on moose as I've never shot one and probably never will unless I with the lottery or an unknown rich uncle dies and leaves me hit fortune. I can comment on elk and the .35 Whelen though. At least on the one I shot in 2010. :lol: Rifle was my custom mauser and the load used the 225 gr. Barnes TSX. Charge was 60.4 gr. of RL15 and the 225 gr. TSX in Remington brass for a velocity of 2710 FPS 15 feet from the muzzle. (CAUTION: load is over way over maximum.)
The hunt was a cow elk hunt and she was spooked and running off, quartering slightly to the left when the bullet hit just behind the short ribs and exited betweem the neck and the right shoulder. At impact, the elk hit the ground so fast and hard that she bounced. :shock: I've hunted mostly deer all my life and have only shot a couple of elk but I have never seen any animal grounded as fast as that cow elk. Even my guide who has seen lots of elk kills with all sorts of cartridges said that it was one of the fastest drops he's ever seen. Needless to say, you know what rifle and load I'll be using come my next elk hunt. :wink:
FWIW, the internal damage as massive.
Paul B.

 

[Bruce Mc]

Why is it that almost every post here ends up being about the 35 Whelen. Whats the deal here? Does somebody get a royalty off 35 Whelen brass or rifles? :lol: Guess I'll have to get one so I can participate. I still have a Rem 700 .270 thats crying for a rebarrel.

 

[DrMike]

Why are you waiting, Bruce? Get on the bandwagon! Transform the 270 Whelen into a true 35 Whelen!

 

[SJB358]

Why is it that almost every post here ends up being about the 35 Whelen. Whats the deal here? Does somebody get a royalty off 35 Whelen brass or rifles? :lol: Guess I'll have to get one so I can participate. I still have a Rem 700 .270 thats crying for a rebarrel.

It's just a great way to get a solid medium bore rifle that is pretty versatile and will lay just about everything on its nose. Don't deprive yourself Bruce, 270's and 30-06's make excellent donors! :twisted:

 

[CatskillCrawler]

Face it Bruce, you're either in or out. You make the choice. :lol:

 

[BK]

Yes, a .270 is a perfect donor. .30-06, well, not so much... :twisted: