Well I finally figured out why my 270 shot so well with 140 BT and 7828 then went away! A guy had loaned me a baggy of 140's to try and like magic they shot tiny little groups. I put the gun away for a year or so, happy with the results, but when I decided it was time to get it out, it shot like crap! Every bedding trick I could think of was tried to less than stellar results. I found the remnants of 140 BT's in the baggy and compared them to the new ones-- they were shaped a little different. So I started over and loaded the new ones clear out to just under jamming the lands, now we are on the road to recovery!!!! This particular 700 BDL was made in the late 70's (still new though) and has a full length magazine that you could poke a 300 wby round down in and the leade matches! With the bullets loaded to the best C.O.L. the round looks weird but who cares--? If it shoots! So much for trying to follow someone else on the length.