30-06 and RL 17

[Alaska]

Any good recipes with the 200gr ELDX or AccuBond with RL 17 in the 30-06 ?

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54618
Useable Case Capaci: 56.350 grain H2O = 3.659 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    47.97   2496    2766   42414   7743     99.9    1.473
-09.0   89    48.50   2521    2823   43819   7789    100.0    1.451
-08.0   90    49.04   2547    2880   45275   7831    100.0    1.430
-07.0   91    49.57   2572    2937   46783   7869    100.0    1.409
-06.0   92    50.10   2597    2995   48326   7905    100.0    1.389
-05.0   93    50.64   2622    3053   49957   7941    100.0    1.369
-04.0   94    51.17   2647    3110   51631   7976    100.0    1.350  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   95    51.70   2671    3169   53358   8011    100.0    1.331  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    52.23   2696    3227   55157   8045    100.0    1.312  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   97    52.77   2720    3286   57020   8078    100.0    1.293  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    53.30   2744    3344   58950   8111    100.0    1.275  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   99    53.83   2768    3404   60949   8144    100.0    1.257  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  100    54.37   2793    3463   63023   8175    100.0    1.240  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  101    54.90   2816    3523   65177   8206    100.0    1.222  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    55.43   2840    3583   67412   8236    100.0    1.206  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  103    55.97   2864    3643   69733   8266    100.0    1.189  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    53.30   2835    3569   72033   7782    100.0    1.188  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    53.30   2603    3009   47616   8495     99.2    1.392

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 200, Hornady ELD-X 3076
Useable Case Capaci: 56.269 grain H2O = 3.653 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   88    47.97   2497    2770   42524   7737     99.9    1.471
-09.0   89    48.50   2523    2827   43936   7783    100.0    1.450
-08.0   90    49.04   2548    2884   45398   7824    100.0    1.429
-07.0   91    49.57   2573    2941   46911   7862    100.0    1.408
-06.0   92    50.10   2599    2999   48476   7898    100.0    1.388
-05.0   93    50.64   2623    3056   50100   7934    100.0    1.368
-04.0   94    51.17   2648    3114   51779   7969    100.0    1.348  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   95    51.70   2673    3173   53521   8003    100.0    1.329  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    52.23   2697    3231   55321   8037    100.0    1.310  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   97    52.77   2722    3290   57192   8071    100.0    1.292  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    53.30   2746    3349   59131   8103    100.0    1.274  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0   99    53.83   2770    3408   61141   8136    100.0    1.256  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  100    54.37   2794    3467   63226   8167    100.0    1.238  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  101    54.90   2818    3527   65383   8198    100.0    1.221  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    55.43   2842    3587   67635   8228    100.0    1.204  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  103    55.97   2866    3648   69967   8257    100.0    1.188  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    53.30   2837    3573   72258   7774    100.0    1.186  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    53.30   2605    3014   47759   8489     99.2    1.391

 

[Alaska]

Thanks Mike

I am right their 53.50 of RL 17
I am really impressed with RL 17 in the 30-06
I think my 45 year love affair with IMR 4350 might be in question

2700 FPS with 200gr in 30-06

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but at what point do the loads above become compressed loads?
Also, just an observation, why does it have a 26 inch barrel? Just curious.
Most '06's will have 22 inch barrels, occasionally 24 inches.

If you like RL 17, look at Winchester StaBall 6.5, it gets really good velocities with heavy projectiles as well. Another one is RL 26.


Hawk

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[DrMike]

These are at 98% fill, which is well below a compressed load. I find that a load will need to reach ~107% with stick powders before marked compression is observed. Most 06's sport a 22 inch barrel. I didn't adjust the projection before running it. That will increase velocity by about 100 fps or so.

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Ah ok! Thank you for clearing up the compressed load situation. Good deal!


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[Alaska]

Thanks for the info
I know about Sta Bal but I have never seen it on the shelve here.
I just subtract 50 FPS per inch of barrel.
2700 FPS with 200gr in 30-06 with 22” is excellent that is 300 HH performance.
I used WW brass has a little more powder capacity but it’s close to his Data and still not compressed .

1979 Win model 70 XTR
200 gr ELDX
3.3600”
WW Case (h20 capacity 70.6)

The load is kinda like the Federal Prem High Energy load of yesteryear.

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Thanks for the info
I know about Sta Bal but I have never seen it on the shelve here.
I just subtract 50 FPS per inch of barrel.
2700 FPS with 200gr in 30-06 with 22” is excellent that is 300 HH performance.
I used WW brass has a little more powder capacity but it’s close to his Data and still not compressed .

1979 Win model 70 XTR

That's awesome!
Even with a 22" bbl, that's cooking for an '06!
You're so right it's in the .300 H&H area.
I just got 3 Remington '06's, and will definitely look at the above loads for them.


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[mjcmichigan]

FYI, I think you’ll be happy with that eldx. If the rl17 doesn’t get it done, try one of the other RL powders. I’m a bit fan of RL26. Multiple guns loving it, 3006, 243 win,...


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[HAWKEYESATX]

FYI, I think you’ll be happy with that eldx. If the rl17 doesn’t get it done, try one of the other RL powders. I’m a bit fan of RL26. Multiple guns loving it, 3006, 243 win,...


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That's good news to hear!


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[fremont]

After doing some fairly serious load development across several powders and the 180 AB last year, I chose Re-17 with Re-22 coming in a close second.

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

After doing some fairly serious load development across several powders and the 180 AB last year, I chose Re-17 with Re-22 coming in a close second.

That's awesome!

Hawk

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[SJB358]

That's a great load in my book. 200+ grain bullets up over 2700 in the 30-06 is pretty sweet.

I am using Stabal 6.5 for the 212 ELD. It worked pretty darned well.