.30-06 QL please

[HAWKEYESATX]

As some of you know, I am getting a Remington 700 BDL in .30-06!

I've seen QL loads for 24 inch barrels, but not 22 inch ones, like I will have.
Would it be possible to get the QL loads in RL-26, StaBall 6.5, H4350, and RL-22 for the 165 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips, and the 180 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips please?
Pressure is the normal, 60,000 psi ( 50,000 CUP ).
I apologise if this is a duplicate post that someone else may have asked before.


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[flyingagg]

This is my attempt at one...I am curious to see what Dr. Mike runs and open to comments/suggestions

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 96 52.20 2533 2350 43014 9114 91.9 1.235
-09.0 97 52.78 2561 2403 44441 9230 92.4 1.217
-08.0 98 53.36 2589 2456 45918 9344 93.0 1.199
-07.0 99 53.94 2618 2511 47445 9456 93.5 1.181
-06.0 101 54.52 2646 2565 49028 9566 93.9 1.163
-05.0 102 55.10 2675 2621 50664 9672 94.4 1.146
-04.0 103 55.68 2703 2677 52359 9776 94.9 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 104 56.26 2732 2734 54108 9878 95.3 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 105 56.84 2760 2791 55912 9976 95.7 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 106 57.42 2789 2849 57775 10071 96.1 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 107 58.00 2817 2908 59705 10163 96.5 1.064 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 108 58.58 2846 2967 61704 10252 96.8 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 109 59.16 2874 3027 63776 10337 97.2 1.034 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 110 59.74 2903 3087 65923 10419 97.5 1.019 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 111 60.32 2931 3148 68150 10497 97.8 1.004 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 112 60.90 2960 3209 70460 10571 98.1 0.990 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 107 58.00 2951 3191 70702 10155 99.7 0.990 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 107 58.00 2644 2560 49075 9713 89.7 1.160

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Looks like 58g at 2817fps is max. Still under 60K PSI not sure why its listed as a dangerous load.

 

[mjcmichigan]

Powder is H4350. That would explain the v.

Agree on the dangerous load status.

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[flyingagg]

As I understand it, It is in the note below the table. If there is 10% variation in lot to lot, it can go over 70,000 psi
I am waiting for Dr. Mike to comment. I can run the rest, but I would just be pushing buttons...I want to input from the Dr. so I can help people when he is busy

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

This is my attempt at one...I am curious to see what Dr. Mike runs and open to comments/suggestions

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4350 *T

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 96 52.20 2533 2350 43014 9114 91.9 1.235
-09.0 97 52.78 2561 2403 44441 9230 92.4 1.217
-08.0 98 53.36 2589 2456 45918 9344 93.0 1.199
-07.0 99 53.94 2618 2511 47445 9456 93.5 1.181
-06.0 101 54.52 2646 2565 49028 9566 93.9 1.163
-05.0 102 55.10 2675 2621 50664 9672 94.4 1.146
-04.0 103 55.68 2703 2677 52359 9776 94.9 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 104 56.26 2732 2734 54108 9878 95.3 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 105 56.84 2760 2791 55912 9976 95.7 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 106 57.42 2789 2849 57775 10071 96.1 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 107 58.00 2817 2908 59705 10163 96.5 1.064 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 108 58.58 2846 2967 61704 10252 96.8 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 109 59.16 2874 3027 63776 10337 97.2 1.034 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 110 59.74 2903 3087 65923 10419 97.5 1.019 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 111 60.32 2931 3148 68150 10497 97.8 1.004 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 112 60.90 2960 3209 70460 10571 98.1 0.990 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 107 58.00 2951 3191 70702 10155 99.7 0.990 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 107 58.00 2644 2560 49075 9713 89.7 1.160

Thank you for running the first info!
I greatly appreciate it!

I'm thinking the first dangerous load is called that due to differences in rifle chambers, and throat lengths.


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[flyingagg]

So, RL22 and RL266 Have to be realy compressed. There is no StaBall 6.5 in my version of QL.
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C



Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 59.04 2576 2430 37803 10884 93.2 1.294
-09.0 100 59.70 2612 2500 39272 11037 94.0 1.271
-08.0 101 60.35 2649 2570 40814 11184 94.7 1.247
-07.0 102 61.01 2685 2642 42426 11323 95.3 1.224
-06.0 103 61.66 2722 2715 44115 11455 96.0 1.202
-05.0 105 62.32 2759 2789 45884 11580 96.6 1.179
-04.0 106 62.98 2796 2865 47741 11696 97.1 1.158
-03.0 107 63.63 2833 2941 49688 11804 97.6 1.136
-02.0 108 64.29 2871 3019 51733 11903 98.1 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 109 64.94 2908 3098 53881 11992 98.5 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 65.60 2945 3178 56142 12072 98.8 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 66.26 2983 3259 58519 12143 99.2 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 66.91 3020 3341 61024 12203 99.4 1.033 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 113 67.57 3057 3424 63663 12252 99.6 1.014 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 68.22 3095 3508 66449 12291 99.8 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 116 68.88 3132 3594 69390 12318 99.9 0.976 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 65.60 3129 3586 70936 11552 100.0 0.975 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 65.60 2684 2639 44213 11550 90.6 1.201


Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 55.44 2468 2232 36336 9714 86.7 1.324
-09.0 100 56.06 2500 2290 37617 9869 87.5 1.303
-08.0 101 56.67 2532 2349 38950 10022 88.2 1.282
-07.0 102 57.29 2564 2409 40335 10172 88.9 1.260
-06.0 103 57.90 2597 2470 41779 10319 89.7 1.240
-05.0 104 58.52 2629 2533 43279 10464 90.3 1.219
-04.0 106 59.14 2662 2596 44841 10605 91.0 1.199
-03.0 107 59.75 2695 2660 46470 10743 91.7 1.179
-02.0 108 60.37 2728 2726 48166 10877 92.3 1.160
-01.0 109 60.98 2761 2792 49934 11008 92.9 1.140
+00.0 110 61.60 2794 2860 51780 11134 93.5 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 62.22 2827 2928 53704 11257 94.1 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 62.83 2860 2998 55713 11375 94.6 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 113 63.45 2894 3068 57814 11488 95.1 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 64.06 2928 3140 60006 11597 95.6 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 115 64.68 2961 3213 62303 11700 96.1 1.031 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 61.60 2975 3242 63559 11374 98.8 1.027 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 61.60 2567 2414 41759 10249 83.8 1.241


Comments please

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Thank you for the data. I greatly appreciate it.



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[flyingagg]

You are welcome. I was hoping Dr. Mike would chime in. Maybe provide me some direction so I can do more

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

You are welcome. I was hoping Dr. Mike would chime in. Maybe provide me some direction so I can do more

I'm sure he will. Just takes some time. I know he's busy with other things usually.


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[flyingagg]

Here is the RL26 and 180 Nosler BT. There are two listed, only run on one of them. You know once you have muzzle velocity and fired case water volume you can further calibrate QL

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 57.78 2532 2563 39955 10955 95.6 1.307
-09.0 100 58.42 2567 2634 41522 11086 96.2 1.284
-08.0 101 59.06 2602 2706 43161 11210 96.8 1.260
-07.0 102 59.71 2637 2779 44880 11326 97.3 1.237
-06.0 104 60.35 2672 2853 46678 11434 97.8 1.214
-05.0 105 60.99 2707 2928 48563 11534 98.2 1.192
-04.0 106 61.63 2742 3004 50541 11626 98.6 1.170
-03.0 107 62.27 2777 3081 52614 11708 99.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 108 62.92 2812 3159 54797 11781 99.3 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 109 63.56 2847 3239 57088 11844 99.5 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 64.20 2881 3319 59498 11898 99.7 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 111 64.84 2916 3399 62034 11941 99.8 1.065 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 112 65.48 2951 3481 64706 11974 99.9 1.045 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 113 66.13 2986 3564 67522 11996 100.0 1.026 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 115 66.77 3021 3647 70494 12009 100.0 1.006 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 116 67.41 3055 3731 73631 12018 100.0 0.988 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 64.20 3041 3697 75546 11277 100.0 0.988 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 64.20 2643 2793 46660 11704 93.4 1.213

 

[SJB358]

I think the 30-06 is a 60k psi cartridge in QL, so basically anything that could be 10% more gets marked as caution or dangerous.

I love me some QL and use it a lot, but in order for the outputs to be close the inputs need to be refined a bit.

I’d love to see how much 26 you could fit in there with a 180, cause darned if 2900 with a 180 isn’t good stuff.

 

[flyingagg]

I usually try to get 5-10 fired cases and get the water volume and muzzle velocity and temperature when I shot them. I then update the data in QL and try to calibrate. But as so many people said...the proof is when you go out there and shoot

 

[SJB358]

I usually try to get 5-10 fired cases and get the water volume and muzzle velocity and temperature when I shot them. I then update the data in QL and try to calibrate. But as so many people said...the proof is when you go out there and shoot

For sure. Awesome tool. I’ve heard many poo poo it, but it has been very useful to me and I’m a knuckledragger. Guys like Dewey and Mike have really made it sing.

 

[flyingagg]

I brought it up in another forum and I swear, people were ready to shoot me. I run simulations of other kinds for living and I know, its a simulation, nothing compared with real world experience. But take the time to learn from it and save some time and money. Use the tool is it was intended.
I am just a geek I guess...I am trying to learn more...

 

[DrMike]

Briefly, case capacity is almost always more than 100%. Stick powders often max out at 114% due to compaction. 110% is not a particularly compressed load for most powders. Interestingly enough, when I do a quick run of RL26 and 180g BT, the projection looks like this:

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.805 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   99    57.69   2527    2553   39739  10936     95.5    1.311
-09.0  100    58.33   2562    2623   41293  11068     96.2    1.287
-08.0  101    58.97   2597    2695   42920  11193     96.7    1.263
-07.0  102    59.61   2632    2768   44623  11310     97.3    1.240
-06.0  103    60.25   2666    2842   46405  11419     97.7    1.218
-05.0  105    60.90   2701    2917   48275  11520     98.2    1.195
-04.0  106    61.54   2736    2992   50236  11613     98.6    1.173
-03.0  107    62.18   2771    3069   52292  11696     98.9    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  108    62.82   2806    3147   54453  11771     99.2    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  109    63.46   2841    3226   56723  11835     99.5    1.109  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  110    64.10   2876    3306   59110  11890     99.7    1.089  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  111    64.74   2911    3387   61621  11935     99.8    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  112    65.38   2946    3468   64266  11970     99.9    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  113    66.02   2980    3550   67053  11994    100.0    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    66.66   3015    3634   69995  12007    100.0    1.010  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  116    67.31   3050    3717   73101  12017    100.0    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    110    64.10   3036    3685   75034  11273    100.0    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    110    64.10   2638    2781   46367  11682     93.2    1.217

When measuring maximum case capacity, overflow, it is important to use deoxygenated water. It is sufficient to allow the water to sit open overnight. Then, ensure that it is pipetted into the case at STP (ambient temp. etc.). Pipette until you form a convex meniscus. That is the measurement that should be input into the programme.

I've been busy (actually firing at the range for the past couple of days--358 Norma Magnum, 8X68S, 30-06, 284 Win). I still have several cartridges to work with. This is between my normal duties, which have never slowed down. On top of this, it is moose/black bear season, and elk opens in a couple of days! Things get a bit hectic. You are always welcome to fire me a PM, and I'll answer when I'm able.

Hope this helps.

 

[HAWKEYESATX]

Briefly, case capacity is almost always more than 100%. Stick powders often max out at 114% due to compaction. 110% is not a particularly compressed load for most powders. Interestingly enough, when I do a quick run of RL26 and 180g BT, the projection looks like this:

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.805 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   99    57.69   2527    2553   39739  10936     95.5    1.311
-09.0  100    58.33   2562    2623   41293  11068     96.2    1.287
-08.0  101    58.97   2597    2695   42920  11193     96.7    1.263
-07.0  102    59.61   2632    2768   44623  11310     97.3    1.240
-06.0  103    60.25   2666    2842   46405  11419     97.7    1.218
-05.0  105    60.90   2701    2917   48275  11520     98.2    1.195
-04.0  106    61.54   2736    2992   50236  11613     98.6    1.173
-03.0  107    62.18   2771    3069   52292  11696     98.9    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  108    62.82   2806    3147   54453  11771     99.2    1.130  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  109    63.46   2841    3226   56723  11835     99.5    1.109  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  110    64.10   2876    3306   59110  11890     99.7    1.089  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  111    64.74   2911    3387   61621  11935     99.8    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  112    65.38   2946    3468   64266  11970     99.9    1.048  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  113    66.02   2980    3550   67053  11994    100.0    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    66.66   3015    3634   69995  12007    100.0    1.010  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  116    67.31   3050    3717   73101  12017    100.0    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    110    64.10   3036    3685   75034  11273    100.0    0.991  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    110    64.10   2638    2781   46367  11682     93.2    1.217

When measuring maximum case capacity, overflow, it is important to use deoxygenated water. It is sufficient to allow the water to sit open overnight. Then, ensure that it is pipetted into the case at STP (ambient temp. etc.). Pipette until you form a convex meniscus. That is the measurement that should be input into the programme.

I've been busy (actually firing at the range for the past couple of days--358 Norma Magnum, 8X68S, 30-06, 284 Win). I still have several cartridges to work with. This is between my normal duties, which have never slowed down. On top of this, it is moose/black bear season, and elk opens in a couple of days! Things get a bit hectic. You are always welcome to fire me a PM, and I'll answer when I'm able.

Hope this helps.

Yes it sure does DrMike!
Thank you so very much!


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[DrMike]

So, RL22 and RL266 Have to be realy compressed. There is no StaBall 6.5 in my version of QL.
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C



Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 59.04 2576 2430 37803 10884 93.2 1.294
-09.0 100 59.70 2612 2500 39272 11037 94.0 1.271
-08.0 101 60.35 2649 2570 40814 11184 94.7 1.247
-07.0 102 61.01 2685 2642 42426 11323 95.3 1.224
-06.0 103 61.66 2722 2715 44115 11455 96.0 1.202
-05.0 105 62.32 2759 2789 45884 11580 96.6 1.179
-04.0 106 62.98 2796 2865 47741 11696 97.1 1.158
-03.0 107 63.63 2833 2941 49688 11804 97.6 1.136
-02.0 108 64.29 2871 3019 51733 11903 98.1 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 109 64.94 2908 3098 53881 11992 98.5 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 65.60 2945 3178 56142 12072 98.8 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 66.26 2983 3259 58519 12143 99.2 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 66.91 3020 3341 61024 12203 99.4 1.033 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 113 67.57 3057 3424 63663 12252 99.6 1.014 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 68.22 3095 3508 66449 12291 99.8 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 116 68.88 3132 3594 69390 12318 99.9 0.976 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 65.60 3129 3586 70936 11552 100.0 0.975 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 65.60 2684 2639 44213 11550 90.6 1.201


Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.137 grain H2O = 3.905 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-22 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.0 99 55.44 2468 2232 36336 9714 86.7 1.324
-09.0 100 56.06 2500 2290 37617 9869 87.5 1.303
-08.0 101 56.67 2532 2349 38950 10022 88.2 1.282
-07.0 102 57.29 2564 2409 40335 10172 88.9 1.260
-06.0 103 57.90 2597 2470 41779 10319 89.7 1.240
-05.0 104 58.52 2629 2533 43279 10464 90.3 1.219
-04.0 106 59.14 2662 2596 44841 10605 91.0 1.199
-03.0 107 59.75 2695 2660 46470 10743 91.7 1.179
-02.0 108 60.37 2728 2726 48166 10877 92.3 1.160
-01.0 109 60.98 2761 2792 49934 11008 92.9 1.140
+00.0 110 61.60 2794 2860 51780 11134 93.5 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 111 62.22 2827 2928 53704 11257 94.1 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 62.83 2860 2998 55713 11375 94.6 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 113 63.45 2894 3068 57814 11488 95.1 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 64.06 2928 3140 60006 11597 95.6 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 115 64.68 2961 3213 62303 11700 96.1 1.031 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 61.60 2975 3242 63559 11374 98.8 1.027 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 61.60 2567 2414 41759 10249 83.8 1.241


Comments please

You were good with your projection with RL22 and the 165 g BT. This will be a compressed load, for sure.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.132 grain H2O = 3.904 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-22 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0  102    57.15   2557    2396   40026  10139     88.8    1.265
-09.0  103    57.79   2590    2459   41501  10291     89.5    1.244
-08.0  104    58.42   2624    2523   43038  10441     90.2    1.222
-07.0  105    59.06   2658    2588   44640  10587     90.9    1.202
-06.0  107    59.69   2691    2654   46311  10729     91.6    1.181
-05.0  108    60.33   2725    2721   48050  10868     92.2    1.161
-04.0  109    60.96   2759    2790   49873  11003     92.9    1.141
-03.0  110    61.60   2794    2859   51774  11133     93.5    1.121  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  111    62.23   2828    2930   53760  11259     94.1    1.102  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  112    62.87   2862    3002   55835  11381     94.6    1.083  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  113    63.50   2897    3075   58006  11497     95.2    1.065  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  114    64.14   2932    3149   60279  11609     95.7    1.046  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  116    64.77   2966    3224   62659  11715     96.2    1.028  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  117    65.41   3001    3300   65153  11815     96.6    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  118    66.04   3036    3377   67769  11909     97.0    0.993  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  119    66.68   3071    3456   70512  11998     97.5    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    113    63.50   3074    3462   71438  11577     99.5    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    113    63.50   2669    2611   46620  10731     86.2    1.178

The load with RL26 will be somewhat less compressed, though it will still require care to pack it all in.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler BalTip 30165
Useable Case Capaci: 60.132 grain H2O = 3.904 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26 *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0  100    59.76   2616    2507   39429  11052     94.0    1.268
-09.0  101    60.42   2653    2578   40994  11199     94.7    1.245
-08.0  103    61.09   2690    2651   42635  11340     95.4    1.221
-07.0  104    61.75   2727    2725   44355  11472     96.1    1.198
-06.0  105    62.42   2765    2801   46158  11597     96.6    1.176
-05.0  106    63.08   2802    2877   48053  11714     97.2    1.154
-04.0  107    63.74   2840    2955   50041  11821     97.7    1.132
-03.0  108    64.41   2878    3034   52128  11920     98.1    1.111  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  109    65.07   2915    3114   54325  12008     98.5    1.090  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  110    65.74   2953    3195   56636  12087     98.9    1.069  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  111    66.40   2991    3277   59072  12156     99.2    1.049  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  113    67.06   3029    3361   61637  12214     99.5    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  114    67.73   3066    3445   64344  12262     99.7    1.009  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  115    68.39   3104    3531   67203  12298     99.8    0.989  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  116    69.06   3142    3617   70223  12323     99.9    0.970  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  117    69.72   3180    3704   73420  12336    100.0    0.952  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    111    66.40   3170    3681   74789  11576    100.0    0.953  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    111    66.40   2731    2733   46430  11751     91.6    1.174

 

[flyingagg]

Thanks Dr. Mike. I am jealous. Too hot down here. I will only do one hunt this year, just white tail, for meat.
So nothing really wrong with my QL runs? any suggestions are always welcome.
Cheers and good shooting!

 

[SJB358]

Good luck in the hunting fields Mike. May the moose pass near the truck buddy!

Glad to see you getting some of your boomers out and working! You’ve got a brace of great rifles!