338 Federal /200gr. Accubond loads?

[Greg Nolan]

Has anyone tried the 200 gr. AccuBond in 338 Federal loads.

 

[SJB358]

Here is a look Greg.. Hope it helps..

Cartridge : .338 Federal
Bullet : .338, 200, Nosler AccuBond 56382
Useable Case Capaci: 45.259 grain H2O = 2.939 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

82 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hodgdon BL-C2 106.7 48.6 3.15 2636 98.5 62000 7183 1.064 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 104.0 46.7 3.03 2635 99.2 62000 6965 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 109.8 47.2 3.06 2619 99.6 62000 6800 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 109.8 47.2 3.06 2619 99.6 62000 6800 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp 108.2 43.7 2.83 2613 100.0 62000 6104 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 107.6 43.7 2.83 2613 100.0 62000 6104 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 108.5 45.3 2.93 2612 98.0 62000 7028 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 108.7 45.3 2.94 2603 97.5 62000 7010 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 103.4 46.4 3.01 2597 98.8 62000 6887 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.4 45.9 2.97 2597 98.6 62000 6849 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 102.6 45.8 2.97 2596 98.7 62000 6839 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 109.2 47.1 3.05 2596 97.3 62000 6947 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 98.7 45.0 2.91 2595 99.8 62000 6629 1.071 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 109.6 45.0 2.91 2594 99.9 62000 6619 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 110.0 45.9 2.97 2593 97.0 58312 7181 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 95.9 41.0 2.66 2591 100.0 62000 6162 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 98.4 43.9 2.84 2591 99.8 62000 6592 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 98.3 43.9 2.85 2589 99.8 62000 6582 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 104.7 42.4 2.75 2588 100.0 62000 6401 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 98.4 42.4 2.75 2588 100.0 62000 6401 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 109.1 48.5 3.14 2585 95.1 62000 6987 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 104.2 43.7 2.83 2584 98.7 62000 6740 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 96.4 43.1 2.79 2580 100.0 62000 6432 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 107.2 48.1 3.12 2578 97.1 62000 6737 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 105.2 44.8 2.90 2577 98.6 62000 6742 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 106.6 44.5 2.88 2575 98.5 62000 6664 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 102.3 45.8 2.97 2572 99.2 62000 6566 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 102.3 45.8 2.97 2572 99.2 62000 6566 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 110.0 42.9 2.78 2570 100.0 55380 6577 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 107.9 42.8 2.77 2567 99.8 62000 6482 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 99.3 42.3 2.74 2567 100.0 62000 5851 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 106.8 47.8 3.10 2563 95.0 62000 6795 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 110.0 45.9 2.97 2559 96.1 57061 7037 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 110.0 45.9 2.97 2559 96.1 57061 7037 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 110.0 45.9 2.97 2559 96.1 57061 7037 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 104.1 44.3 2.87 2557 100.0 62000 6243 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4 100.2 44.8 2.90 2557 99.1 62000 6439 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 100.2 44.8 2.90 2557 99.1 62000 6439 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 110.0 46.4 3.01 2555 99.6 58485 6692 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 102.1 40.2 2.60 2553 100.0 62000 5986 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 110.0 48.1 3.12 2552 95.1 56418 7194 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 110.0 45.9 2.97 2549 96.5 55852 7012 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 110.0 43.4 2.81 2544 100.0 54833 6497 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 103.8 41.9 2.71 2542 100.0 62000 5931 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 98.7 42.5 2.76 2541 99.1 62000 6381 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 107.2 44.4 2.88 2538 97.7 62000 6459 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 92.7 40.0 2.59 2534 100.0 62000 5825 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 96.5 42.9 2.78 2533 99.1 62000 6323 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 104.9 43.1 2.79 2532 99.0 62000 6332 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 110.0 45.0 2.92 2530 99.8 58636 6301 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 95.8 40.6 2.63 2529 99.6 62000 6189 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 108.8 44.4 2.88 2525 100.0 62000 6073 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 110.0 44.2 2.87 2524 98.1 58424 6570 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060 107.7 43.7 2.83 2524 97.4 62000 6396 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 106.9 44.1 2.86 2516 97.8 62000 6321 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 110.0 46.9 3.04 2508 93.8 55008 6895 1.130 ! Near Maximum !

 

[Greg Nolan]

Thanks Scotty. I'm just waiting on the Kimber Montana. 11 more days :mrgreen:
Greg

 

[tjen]

Oh how I wish for +p 358win data.

I know its off topic, but I am jelous. Great cartridge the 338federal and maybe the single best ALL purpose big game cartridge for north america. And being a short action you an all purpose sized rifle. Not too small not to long, not the best at one thing but perfect for many hunting tasks.

Please do a water jug test with the 200gr AB and 180gr AB if you have them too.

 

[Greg Nolan]

I've got 200Gr. Accubonds. I'll try them. I didn't set out for this caliber but I had a 358 and It just seemed too big a caliber for the 308 and I thought the 338-08 would have been good. The rifle I saw was in that caliber and after exhaustive research I found it was as good as I hoped, on paper anyway. We'll see.
Greg

 

[Oldtrader3]

Has anyone tried the 200 gr. AccuBond in 338 Federal loads.

Greg, I have been shooting the 180 BT, 200 BT and 225 AB in the .338 Federal. All three shoot under an inch with the following loads in my Sako 85, the 210 PT shoots about 1.3 MOA with 3/4 bullets in MOA every group.
-180 BT, 45.0 grs IMR 3031, CCI BR2, Federal case, 2700 fps.
-200 CT, 47.5 grs IMR 4064, CCI BR2, Hornady .308 case, 2550 fps.
-210 PT, 47.0 grs IMR 4064, CCI BR2, Federal case, 2530 fps.
-225 PT, 45.5 grs IMR 4064, CCI BR2, Federal case, 2450 fps? (no chrono)

Note: Usually I can straight across sustitute AB's for BT's.

 

[Greg Nolan]

Thanks Oldtrader3
As soon as it shows up I'll try those loads. Which one do you hunt with?

 

[Oldtrader3]

Greg, for deer, the 200 BT (or Federal factory loads) and for elk the 210 Partition (my choice) or the 225 gr PT would work for Roosevelt's. The 210 Partition has been around ever since I have been hunting elk and has performed great on elk for me in a .338 WM as well.

 

[SJB358]

Oh how I wish for +p 358win data.

I know its off topic, but I am jelous. Great cartridge the 338federal and maybe the single best ALL purpose big game cartridge for north america. And being a short action you an all purpose sized rifle. Not too small not to long, not the best at one thing but perfect for many hunting tasks.

Please do a water jug test with the 200gr AB and 180gr AB if you have them too.

TJen, check out QL, you can produce the data to 338F levels pretty easily.. I think my loads sit in the 62K realm, which is still not hot by any means, but it has some legs.. You have good loads already for yours though, not sure you would gain too much.. I think TAC is really the powder for the 358 though. I am using W748, which is also pretty good, but I think TAC might be a little better with less pressure.

 

[tjen]

Thanks
I have messed around with a few bullets but need to stick with the 225gr PT. I have some TAC I just need to try it with the PT and with 210M and 215M primers.

My old stand by is the 200gr Spire Point and H322 or H4895.

 

[Kodiak]

Thanks Scotty. I'm just waiting on the Kimber Montana. 11 more days :mrgreen:
Greg

And I am eagerly awaiting your report on the Kimber, as I am considering one for a family member.

Jim

 

[Gunner46]

I'm putting one together for my bear/pig/elk rifle. How have the 200AB's worked out for you and what did you settle on?

 

[Oldtrader3]

I use 47 grains of IMR 4064 with the .338 Federal and the 200 grain AB. Velocity is almost 2600 fps.

 

[JD338]

Greg,

Congratulations on the new Kimber 338 Federal. Great round, a big stick in a small bundle.
Looking forward to your load development.

JD338

 

[Greg Nolan]

The rifle is light and has the power but because of the long free bore and short magazine I'm having to use the 200 gr Hot Core bullets (2600 fps) to get near the rifling . I can see where the Kimber gets a reputation for poor accuracy. I'd rather use Abs or Parts. I get better results with 185 Tsx (2800 fps) but the low BC drops the energy below the Hot Cores at about 120 yds. I even tried some 225 gr. Swift A-Frames because they are blunt but my velocity was way too low.
The accuracy is bout an inch and a half at 100 yds.