.357 Sig

diverdown

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Apr 29, 2015
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I've been kind of tossing the idea around for awhile on purchasing a .357 Sig. Has anybody had experiences with this caliber or the Sig Handgun. Looking at the ballistics I'm impressed and apparently there are PD's that use this caliber and are very satisfied with it. Thoughts?
 
Very limited experience. One of the officers who worked for me had one as an off duty carry. I probably shot a box of shells through it. The Sig was utterly reliable and pleasant to shoot. Can't really say much more about it. The cartridge never seemed to take off of course but it should prove an effective conversation starter/ stopper.
 
Sorry, very limited experience. Seems like a worthwhile cartridge, and of course Sig builds a high quality product.

I understand that the .357 Sig was popular with law enforcement in Texas for a time. Not sure they're still using it.

Guy
 
Texas DPS has gone away from the 357 Sig, sadly.

I have one and found it to be an excellent cartridge based on post shooting reports. Mine is a Sig P226 that I carried off duty.

I think it is destined to be a niche round like the .41 Magnum. Since I'm no longer working in corrections I've gone back to the .41 Magnum.

Vince


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I have owned a Sig P226 in .357 Sig since 1998. Its not the cheapest thing to shoot but its a great caliber. I carry it most often of all of my CCW guns. I have large hands so I got rid of the factory grip and went with a Hogue rubber finger groove grip. As with every P226 I have ever shot, it is EXTREMELY accurate. I killed a raccoon at 35 yards with one shot. I have also upgraded the sights, it now has night sights with a ghost ring rear. My preferred load is the Speer Gold Dot.

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I carry a G33 and like the caliber. I reload for it, using a Dillon 550 for the powder drop, seating and crimping. I size the cases In .40, then run them through the .357 die for the shoulder and neck. It's not that difficult as the Internet claims it to be.
 
Here is my baby! 357 sig currently wearing the 40 SW barrel
 

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If you reload for the 357 Sig and want to replicate police duty loads I'd look at Accurate #9, FYI.


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Code:
Cartridge          : .357 SIG
Bullet             : .355, 124, Speer TMJ 3993
Useable Case Capaci: 11.614 grain H2O = 0.754 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.140 inch = 28.96 mm
Barrel Length      : 5.0 inch = 127.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 40707 psi, or 280 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant POWER PISTOL               100.0      8.5     0.55    1490    94.5    40707    7048   0.433  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.7                       94.6     10.8     0.70    1479    85.0    40707    7059   0.435  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.1                        93.9     10.8     0.70    1479    85.0    40707    7059   0.435  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 24                  101.9      9.8     0.63    1469    88.1    40707    6852   0.434  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806                      105.0     11.2     0.73    1460    97.3    34814    7213   0.469
Somchem S221                        86.8      9.7     0.63    1455    91.7    40707    6631   0.442  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9                      102.8     11.7     0.76    1447    77.6    40707    6695   0.435  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.2                       101.7     11.7     0.76    1447    77.6    40707    6695   0.435  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D036                          75.5      8.4     0.54    1445    96.7    40707    6262   0.437  ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex brown                 75.5      8.3     0.54    1445    96.7    40707    6260   0.437  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5                       75.5      8.3     0.54    1445    96.7    40707    6260   0.437  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37                    101.0      8.3     0.54    1436    99.3    40707    5908   0.440  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350                    104.5      8.1     0.53    1427    99.4    40707    5742   0.438  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HS-6                        81.8      8.7     0.56    1426    98.1    40707    5894   0.440  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 501                 85.4      8.0     0.52    1421   100.0    40707    5548   0.443  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Longshot                    77.7      8.4     0.54    1420    99.1    40707    5738   0.441  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue                   76.9      8.4     0.54    1419    99.1    40707    5714   0.441  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 504                 78.2      8.4     0.54    1419    99.1    40707    5714   0.441  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540                      75.7      8.4     0.54    1418    99.2    40707    5706   0.441  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE                     102.1      7.0     0.46    1418   100.0    40707    5411   0.447  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP                      83.1      7.7     0.50    1408   100.0    40707    5369   0.442  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette                  82.7      7.7     0.50    1407   100.0    40707    5341   0.442  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE                    88.8      6.3     0.41    1406   100.0    40707    5260   0.441  ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie P2636 Ws               100.5      7.2     0.47    1402   100.0    40707    4985   0.443  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MP200                       93.2      7.3     0.48    1402   100.0    40707    5252   0.446  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 506                 88.8      6.7     0.44    1397   100.0    40707    5102   0.451  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P803                       93.4      7.3     0.47    1391   100.0    40707    4914   0.456  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 20                  105.0      7.5     0.49    1391   100.0    35987    5401   0.461
Somchem MS200                       99.0      6.9     0.45    1379   100.0    40707    4905   0.449  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340                     98.3      7.0     0.45    1376   100.0    40707    4852   0.447  ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex yellow                90.6      6.7     0.44    1364   100.0    40707    4663   0.450  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S020                          90.6      6.7     0.44    1364   100.0    40707    4663   0.450  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 12                   94.1      6.7     0.44    1363   100.0    40707    4612   0.461  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 90                          105.0      7.8     0.50    1361    98.9    32470    5696   0.478
Rottweil P804                       83.5      7.0     0.45    1359   100.0    40707    4605   0.461  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 70N                          84.8      6.5     0.42    1358   100.0    40707    4630   0.456  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal                   94.0      6.5     0.42    1358   100.0    40707    4630   0.456  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330                     94.0      6.6     0.43    1355   100.0    40707    4473   0.451  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2                       90.5      6.4     0.42    1352   100.0    40707    4740   0.447  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 515                 96.2      6.7     0.44    1346   100.0    40707    4451   0.451  ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 2                        101.2      6.6     0.43    1345   100.0    40707    4391   0.461  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO                      105.0      7.1     0.46    1340    99.6    33167    5435   0.491
Accurate Solo 1250                  99.7      6.4     0.41    1332   100.0    40707    4275   0.452  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 509                 93.0      6.5     0.42    1329   100.0    40707    4283   0.454  ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 1                        105.0      6.6     0.43    1326   100.0    40362    4214   0.455  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip                         71.4      6.4     0.42    1325   100.0    40707    4242   0.454  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231                      79.5      6.4     0.42    1325   100.0    40707    4242   0.454  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38                    105.0      9.2     0.59    1320    84.1    30945    5821   0.496
Hodgdon HP38                        70.6      6.3     0.41    1317   100.0    40707    4158   0.455  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D032                          63.8      5.7     0.37    1308   100.0    40707    4090   0.453  ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex green                 63.8      5.7     0.37    1308   100.0    40707    4090   0.453  ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 3                         98.1      6.1     0.39    1307   100.0    40707    4047   0.457  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT                   97.0      5.8     0.38    1300   100.0    40707    4054   0.463  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S011                          81.1      5.9     0.38    1300   100.0    40707    3984   0.454  ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex red                   81.1      5.9     0.38    1300   100.0    40707    3984   0.454  ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123                         105.0     11.2     0.73    1297    79.6    21869    7250   0.563
ADI AS 50N                          92.0      5.7     0.37    1296   100.0    40707    3994   0.463  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100                  94.6      5.3     0.34    1295   100.0    40707    4022   0.459  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D013                          94.6      5.3     0.34    1295   100.0    40707    4022   0.459  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N320                     91.5      5.7     0.37    1292   100.0    40707    3889   0.463  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P801                       82.1      6.2     0.40    1291   100.0    40707    3989   0.471  ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 4                         94.4      5.7     0.37    1285   100.0    40707    3864   0.460  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706                      105.0      6.7     0.44    1284   100.0    28354    4994   0.544
Alliant 2400                       105.0     10.7     0.69    1283    67.2    27870    5895   0.519
ADI AP 100                         105.0      7.8     0.50    1277    90.2    29473    5314   0.508
Lovex S015                          94.1      5.6     0.36    1273   100.0    40707    3790   0.462  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1000                  94.1      5.6     0.36    1273   100.0    40707    3790   0.462  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer                   105.0     11.5     0.74    1272    66.7    26613    5901   0.523
Alliant RED DOT                     98.7      5.3     0.34    1269   100.0    40707    3806   0.468  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon TiteGroup                   65.3      5.7     0.37    1264   100.0    40707    3698   0.465  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT                   105.0      9.2     0.59    1260    76.2    27185    5625   0.530
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28            105.0      6.0     0.39    1249   100.0    32873    3994   0.492
ADI AS 30                           95.8      5.3     0.34    1245   100.0    40707    3589   0.471  ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32         105.0      5.9     0.38    1244   100.0    31336    4060   0.506
Vihtavuori N105                    105.0      8.8     0.57    1242    82.5    23579    5747   0.550
PB Clermont PCL 514                 85.7      5.1     0.33    1235   100.0    40707    3448   0.468  ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36          105.0      6.2     0.40    1232   100.0    28876    4164   0.524
Maxam CSB 5                         88.7      5.2     0.33    1231   100.0    40707    3454   0.471  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P805                      101.8      5.4     0.35    1225   100.0    40707    3458   0.479  ! Near Maximum !
Norma R1                            99.6      5.4     0.35    1225   100.0    40707    3456   0.479  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100                      105.0     11.6     0.75    1208    60.2    25378    5198   0.540
Vihtavuori N310                     75.7      4.7     0.31    1196   100.0    40707    3182   0.481  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S040                         105.0     10.0     0.65    1185    63.6    24518    4952   0.550
PB Clermont PCL 512                105.0     10.8     0.70    1173    62.4    21679    5224   0.577
Hodgdon Clays                       88.8      4.5     0.29    1168   100.0    40707    3032   0.481  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D063                         105.0     11.7     0.76    1098    44.6    23447    3988   0.571
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star           105.0      5.6     0.36    1095   100.0    28718    2846   0.559
Accurate 5744                      105.0     10.8     0.70    1094    46.5    22552    4208   0.586
Hodgdon H110                       105.0     12.1     0.78    1087    49.7    18634    4688   0.617
Winchester 296                     105.0     12.1     0.78    1085    45.3    18752    4702   0.618
Rottweil R910                      105.0     10.4     0.67    1080    52.5    19795    4270   0.606
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                    105.0     11.7     0.76    1068    49.9    18522    4617   0.621
Lovex D060                         105.0     10.5     0.68    1064    45.4    21075    4033   0.604
ADI AR 2205                        105.0     10.7     0.69    1053    52.5    20063    3954   0.612
ReloadSwiss RS 30                  105.0      9.9     0.64    1030    51.4    17312    3973   0.642
Nitrochemie A/S 0200               105.0     11.2     0.73    1009    44.0    16735    3911   0.653
Somchem S265                       105.0     10.3     0.67     980    48.3    16382    3683   0.685
Vihtavuori N110                    105.0      9.5     0.62     968    49.7    14447    3770   0.690
IMR 4227                           105.0     10.3     0.67     949    39.8    15812    3127   0.679
Accurate 1680                      105.0     11.7     0.76     927    33.1    16164    2952   0.677
Hodgdon H4227                      105.0     10.3     0.67     921    37.7    14818    2963   0.699
Lovex S053                         105.0     10.1     0.65     904    40.5    13152    3106   0.729
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation       105.0     10.9     0.71     858    30.3    13463    2460   0.734
Vihtavuori N125                    105.0     10.4     0.68     854    34.1    12197    2668   0.758
Hodgdon H4198                      105.0     10.6     0.68     853    30.8    13133    2455   0.741
IMR TrailBoss                      105.0      3.8     0.25     838   100.0    12547    2120   0.780
ADI AS 25 BP                       105.0      3.8     0.25     838   100.0    12547    2120   0.780
IMR 4198                           105.0     10.1     0.65     818    30.3    11608    2301   0.780
Accurate 2200                      105.0     11.4     0.74     810    25.8    12305    2231   0.774
ADI AR 2207                        105.0     10.5     0.68     798    28.9    10829    2315   0.813
ADI BM2                            105.0     12.0     0.78     797    24.6    11950    2159   0.786
Alliant Reloder-7                  105.0     10.9     0.70     797    28.6    10786    2356   0.811
Vihtavuori N120                    105.0     10.3     0.67     787    30.1    10513    2220   0.828
Nitrochemie A/S 0300               105.0     11.5     0.75     783    23.9    11258    2105   0.803
ADI AR 2219                        105.0     11.6     0.75     767    22.6    11245    1960   0.810
ADI AR 2210                        105.0     11.6     0.75     762    22.9    10970    1973   0.817
Kazan Sunar 308W                   105.0     11.0     0.71     758    26.1    10185    2038   0.840
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223)       105.0     12.0     0.78     754    21.6    10739    1925   0.824
SNPE Vectan SP 10                  105.0     12.0     0.78     754    21.6    10719    1927   0.825
Hodgdon H335                       105.0     12.3     0.79     748    21.1    10878    1868   0.824
ReloadSwiss RS 40                  105.0     11.5     0.74     727    21.0     9886    1788   0.855
Hodgdon Benchmark                  105.0     11.1     0.72     726    22.4     9520    1814   0.867
Alliant Reloder-12                 105.0     11.5     0.74     719    21.7     9609    1746   0.868
Vihtavuori N130                    105.0     10.5     0.68     718    24.3     9037    1819   0.887
ADI AR 2206                        105.0     11.1     0.72     718    21.8     9465    1741   0.873
Hodgdon H322                       105.0     10.9     0.71     717    21.2     9496    1735   0.871
Ramshot X-Terminator               105.0     12.0     0.78     713    19.7     9717    1701   0.865
Alliant Reloder-10x                105.0     10.6     0.69     711    22.3     8820    1810   0.891
Lovex S060                         105.0     10.9     0.71     705    20.9     9101    1679   0.887
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39            105.0     11.5     0.74     701    20.7     9000    1704   0.889
Vihtavuori N530                    105.0     11.3     0.73     695    18.9     9223    1617   0.885
IMR 8208 XBR                       105.0     11.2     0.73     694    19.4     8958    1615   0.894
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation       105.0     11.2     0.72     692    19.7     9081    1587   0.892
PB Clermont PCL 507                105.0     11.7     0.76     692    18.5     9078    1597   0.891
Winchester 748                     105.0     12.1     0.78     688    17.4     9394    1533   0.883
Ramshot TAC                        105.0     12.1     0.79     687    17.5     9238    1551   0.887
Norma 200                          105.0     11.0     0.71     686    21.0     8059    1766   0.921
Somchem S321                       105.0     12.1     0.78     680    17.7     8947    1554   0.899
Vihtavuori N133                    105.0     10.3     0.67     679    22.1     8266    1566   0.929
Ramshot Wild Boar                  105.0     12.0     0.78     676    17.1     8905    1496   0.902
Hodgdon CFE223                     105.0     12.5     0.81     668    15.9     9093    1432   0.900
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation      105.0     10.9     0.71     663    18.8     8253    1467   0.930
Lovex D073.4                       105.0     12.0     0.78     663    17.0     8836    1460   0.918
SNPE Vectan SP 9                   105.0     11.6     0.75     662    17.1     8371    1449   0.925
Accurate 2230                      105.0     12.2     0.79     662    16.6     9010    1429   0.914
Alliant AR-Comp                    105.0     10.9     0.70     659    18.7     8138    1451   0.935
Somchem S341                       105.0     12.1     0.78     658    16.5     8713    1381   0.917
ADI AR 2206H                       105.0     11.2     0.73     657    16.9     8049    1454   0.936
Hodgdon H4895                      105.0     11.2     0.73     657    16.9     8042    1453   0.936
Accurate 2015                      105.0     10.8     0.70     655    19.3     7737    1507   0.950
ADI AR 2208                        105.0     10.9     0.71     651    17.5     7933    1406   0.947
Somchem S335                       105.0     11.0     0.71     650    19.5     7623    1474   0.959
Hodgdon VARGET                     105.0     10.9     0.70     649    17.5     7870    1397   0.950
PB Clermont PCL 516                105.0     12.0     0.78     648    15.7     8364    1358   0.931
Norma 202                          105.0     11.1     0.72     647    17.7     7740    1420   0.954
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation       105.0     11.3     0.73     643    15.9     8275    1301   0.939
IMR 4320                           105.0     11.1     0.72     642    16.6     7971    1330   0.949
Hodgdon BL-C2                      105.0     12.3     0.79     642    15.3     8227    1350   0.949
Vihtavuori N140                    105.0     11.0     0.71     641    18.1     7703    1374   0.961
Vihtavuori N540                    105.0     11.4     0.74     637    17.4     7561    1386   0.967
Accurate 2460                      105.0     12.1     0.78     633    15.6     7972    1344   0.960
Lovex D073.5                       105.0     12.1     0.78     631    15.6     7904    1336   0.963
IMR 4064                           105.0     10.6     0.69     627    16.5     7360    1291   0.979
IMR 3031                           105.0     10.5     0.68     626    16.6     7249    1302   0.982
Ramshot Big Game                   105.0     12.0     0.78     625    14.6     7821    1245   0.972
IMR 4895                           105.0     11.2     0.73     624    15.0     7371    1292   0.989
SNPE Vectan SP 7                   105.0     12.1     0.78     620    14.3     7891    1233   0.970
Raufoss RA11                       105.0     11.2     0.73     619    14.8     7291    1262   0.995
Alliant Reloder-15                 105.0     11.2     0.73     619    14.8     7291    1262   0.995
Bofors RP11 ~approximation         105.0     11.2     0.73     619    14.8     7291    1262   0.995
Norma 203B                         105.0     11.2     0.73     613    14.7     7154    1240   1.004
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation       105.0     11.2     0.72     612    15.2     7426    1193   0.985
ReloadSwiss RS 50                  105.0     11.7     0.76     611    14.3     7444    1198   0.993
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data     105.0     11.6     0.75     610    14.5     7375    1197   0.997
Norma 201                          105.0     11.0     0.71     610    15.7     6887    1288   1.016
SNPE Vectan SP 11                  105.0     11.6     0.75     607    14.2     7221    1189   1.006
Accurate 2520                      105.0     11.9     0.77     604    14.2     7318    1188   1.001
ReloadSwiss RS 52                  105.0     11.6     0.75     602    13.9     7185    1168   1.009
Rottweil R901                      105.0     10.7     0.69     602    16.3     6276    1339   1.045
Lovex S062                         105.0     10.9     0.71     600    15.1     6742    1205   1.016
Rottweil R902                      105.0     10.8     0.70     597    15.3     6595    1221   1.037
Lovex D073.6                       105.0     11.6     0.75     590    13.9     6913    1137   1.026
IMR 4007 SSC                       105.0     11.4     0.74     590    13.5     6946    1121   1.025
Accurate 2700                      105.0     11.7     0.76     588    13.8     7116    1089   1.021
Hodgdon H380                       105.0     11.5     0.74     584    13.1     6813    1104   1.033
Elcho 17                           105.0     11.8     0.76     577    12.2     6795    1045   1.039
Alliant Reloder-17                 105.0     11.8     0.76     577    12.2     6795    1045   1.039
Winchester 760                     105.0     11.9     0.77     576    11.8     6866    1029   1.034
Hodgdon H414                       105.0     11.9     0.77     576    11.8     6866    1029   1.034
IMR 4350                           105.0     11.2     0.72     574    13.1     6539    1036   1.056
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  105.0     11.8     0.76     573    12.1     6745    1030   1.043
Vihtavuori N135                    105.0     10.2     0.66     573    15.5     6117    1086   1.065
Somchem S355                       105.0     11.0     0.71     573    13.6     6279    1082   1.068
Rottweil R907                      105.0     11.0     0.71     572    13.1     6447    1059   1.058
Bofors RP7                         105.0     11.0     0.71     572    13.1     6447    1059   1.058
PB Clermont PCL 511                105.0     12.0     0.78     566    11.7     6581    1000   1.055
Hodgdon H4350                      105.0     11.0     0.71     564    12.9     6278    1000   1.075
Vihtavuori N550                    105.0     11.5     0.74     560    12.0     6204    1008   1.077
Norma 204                          105.0     11.6     0.75     558    11.5     6529     957   1.063
Lovex S065                         105.0     11.0     0.71     557    12.8     6018    1009   1.091
Vihtavuori N150                    105.0     10.6     0.69     555    14.0     5932    1005   1.087
Bofors RP3                         105.0     11.4     0.74     552    12.1     6109     986   1.087
Norma 203 old                      105.0     11.4     0.74     552    12.1     6109     986   1.087
Ramshot Hunter                     105.0     11.6     0.75     549    11.4     6113     943   1.090
Norma URP                          105.0     11.1     0.72     545    11.7     5941     940   1.101
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         105.0     11.1     0.72     545    11.7     5937     939   1.102
Rottweil R904                      105.0     11.1     0.72     544    11.6     6076     910   1.096
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.0     11.2     0.73     542    11.2     6065     906   1.097
Raufoss RA4                        105.0     11.2     0.73     542    11.2     6065     906   1.097
Rottweil R903                      105.0     11.1     0.72     540    11.8     5841     934   1.109
ADI AR 2209                        105.0     11.2     0.72     537    10.9     5993     886   1.104
Lovex S070                         105.0     11.1     0.72     537    11.5     5747     920   1.116
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       105.0     11.4     0.74     535    11.1     5948     884   1.109
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.0     11.2     0.73     533    10.8     5765     881   1.119
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.0     10.9     0.70     529    11.9     5705     864   1.130
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         105.0     11.2     0.73     528    10.7     5680     862   1.128
Somchem S361                       105.0     12.0     0.78     527    10.7     5944     837   1.116
Accurate 2495                      105.0     11.0     0.71     524    11.5     5445     920   1.138
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  105.0     12.0     0.78     523     9.7     5921     825   1.117
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  105.0     11.8     0.76     518    10.0     5677     819   1.134
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   105.0     11.4     0.74     514    10.0     5673     792   1.140
Accurate 4064                      105.0     11.0     0.71     512    11.1     5137     862   1.169
Somchem S365                       105.0     11.2     0.72     511    10.5     5391     805   1.159
Vihtavuori N160                    105.0     10.8     0.70     506    10.7     5270     776   1.173
Winchester Supreme 780             105.0     11.9     0.77     505     9.7     5721     757   1.147
ADI AR 2213                        105.0     11.4     0.74     505     9.2     5512     759   1.155
IMR 4831                           105.0     10.8     0.70     503    10.5     5110     786   1.183
Hodgdon H4831                      105.0     10.9     0.71     497     9.7     5226     743   1.181
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.0     11.5     0.75     497     8.7     5467     720   1.189
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       105.0     11.5     0.74     497     9.2     5268     740   1.177
Vihtavuori N560                    105.0     11.5     0.74     490     8.4     5137     714   1.215
Somchem S385                       105.0     11.4     0.74     489     9.4     5085     724   1.195
Accurate 4350                      105.0     11.2     0.73     488     9.1     5147     720   1.220
Raufoss RA15                       105.0     11.4     0.74     487     8.7     5029     714   1.230
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       105.0     11.4     0.74     487     8.7     5029     714   1.230
Alliant Reloder-22                 105.0     11.4     0.74     487     8.7     5029     714   1.230
Norma MRP                          105.0     11.7     0.76     484     8.4     5097     704   1.224
Rottweil R905                      105.0     11.2     0.72     479     8.6     4968     675   1.242
Bofors RP15                        105.0     11.1     0.72     477     8.6     4793     687   1.258
Winchester WXR                     105.0     11.1     0.72     477     8.6     4793     687   1.258
Vihtavuori N165                    105.0     11.1     0.72     477     9.4     4899     673   1.223
IMR 7828                           105.0     10.9     0.71     475     8.4     4889     659   1.251
Alliant Reloder-23                 105.0     11.0     0.71     470     9.1     4652     669   1.285
Accurate MAGPRO                    105.0     12.0     0.77     465     7.3     4879     623   1.253
Alliant Reloder-26                 105.0     12.1     0.78     464     7.5     4896     630   1.255
Alliant Reloder-25                 105.0     11.2     0.72     461     8.3     4564     631   1.295
ADI AP 2214                        105.0     11.7     0.76     459     7.7     4942     595   1.263
Ramshot Magnum                     105.0     12.2     0.79     447     7.2     4912     558   1.278
ADI AR 2217                        105.0     11.1     0.72     441     7.5     4481     550   1.320
Hodgdon H1000                      105.0     11.1     0.72     441     7.5     4481     550   1.320
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  105.0     12.0     0.78     439     6.7     4690     538   1.299
PB Clermont PCL 517                105.0     12.0     0.78     438     6.7     4677     536   1.301
Accurate 3100                      105.0     11.2     0.73     431     7.5     4262     539   1.350
Bofors RP30                        105.0     11.2     0.73     427     6.7     4128     522   1.359
Norma MRP 2                        105.0     11.2     0.73     427     6.7     4128     522   1.359
ADI AR 2225                        105.0     11.3     0.73     421     6.8     4042     504   1.381
Hodgdon Retumbo                    105.0     11.3     0.73     421     6.8     4042     504   1.381
Lovex D100                         105.0     12.1     0.78     417     6.2     4319     473   1.358
Vihtavuori 24N41                   105.0     12.0     0.78     416     5.9     4252     471   1.360
Lovex S071                         105.0     10.6     0.69     415     7.3     3900     498   1.408
Vihtavuori N570                    105.0     11.9     0.77     414     5.5     4107     470   1.369
Vihtavuori N170                    105.0     11.1     0.72     414     6.6     3947     484   1.397
ADI AR 2218                        105.0     12.0     0.78     401     5.2     4061     429   1.395
Alliant Reloder-33                 105.0     12.2     0.79     397     5.2     3935     430   1.412
Hodgdon 50BMG                      105.0     11.4     0.74     392     5.2     3782     414   1.435
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  105.0     12.2     0.79     388     5.0     3841     404   1.463
Hodgdon H870                       105.0     11.6     0.75     388     5.3     3677     409   1.456
Norma 217                          105.0     11.1     0.72     387     5.6     3585     408   1.470
Hodgdon US 869                     105.0     12.0     0.78     385     5.2     3725     395   1.457
NC A3502 ,test only                105.0     11.0     0.71     382     4.8     3664     356   1.489
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  105.0     11.5     0.74     373     5.2     3498     372   1.506
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           105.0     11.0     0.71     370     4.7     3471     340   1.536
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       105.0     11.5     0.74     367     5.0     3428     356   1.525
Accurate 8700                      105.0     11.7     0.76     367     5.0     3534     348   1.514
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0     11.9     0.77     352     4.0     3287     321   1.581
Vihtavuori 20N29                   105.0     12.1     0.78     352     4.3     3369     316   1.586
Alliant Reloder-50                 105.0     12.2     0.79     351     4.0     3338     318   1.580
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       105.0     11.0     0.71     303     2.8     2834     193   1.816
 
Well guys, I bit the bullet and picked up a 226 Sig in .357 Sig. I already have the dies including the .40 caliber dies so the choice wasn't hard. What's interesting and Fotis mentioned it was that all I need to do to switch to .40 caliber from .357 is change the barrels out. Even the magazines work perfectly. I convinced myself that this was a great reason to buy this gun. I have one of the last 226's made before the underside was changed to accommodate a light. (more convenient in a holster). Looking forward to a range test. Will advise as to results.
 
Congratulations.
I think you will be very happy.


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Finally got to my buddy's range and fired 124 grain Ranier bullets with 6.4 grains of Universal Clays at 10 Yards. Accuracy was excellent, recoil was negligible, and feeding was excellent. I noticed that Sierra is now producing 125 grain Sig V-max bullets with a cannelure that I believe are specifically made for the .357 Sig. I picked up a .40 barrel and will be trying this next. I read up on reloading this cartridge and there are more than a few people that believe it headspaces on the mouth. Called Sierra and found that it definitely headspaces on the shoulder. Actually makes more sense.
 
I've found Accurate Arms #9 to be an excellent powder for 125 grain bullets in the 357 Sig.

Vince


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Thanks Vince, I haven't seen too much Accurate Arms powder in my area. Hopefully the next gunshow will turn something up.
 
I thought I would touch bases with the people that wrote on this forum. I've been reloading the .357 Sig for a while now with 125 grain Ranier bullets and Universal clays. My average velocity for target loads is around 1250FPS which has been pleasant and functions the P226 reliably. My go to loads "were" both the Speer Gold dot load and the Federal HST load. I just found something that spun my head around. I picked up a couple of boxes of Underwood ammunition in the 125 grain weight gold dot after reading about them in another forum and my latest gun magazine. I ran them through my chronograph and, are you ready for this, how about 1540FPS with my 4 1/4" barrel. The recoil is definitely more, so is the noise, and accuracy is excellent. This velocity apparently gets the Sig back to where it was originally intended. I've just changed my opinion on what I'm going to use for defensive carry. They produce ammunition for a lot of different calibers and on their website they show velocities achieved. I checked the brass after firing and everything was fine.
 
big rifle man":2igomcxa said:
I thought I would touch bases with the people that wrote on this forum. I've been reloading the .357 Sig for a while now with 125 grain Ranier bullets and Universal clays. My average velocity for target loads is around 1250FPS which has been pleasant and functions the P226 reliably. My go to loads "were" both the Speer Gold dot load and the Federal HST load. I just found something that spun my head around. I picked up a couple of boxes of Underwood ammunition in the 125 grain weight gold dot after reading about them in another forum and my latest gun magazine. I ran them through my chronograph and, are you ready for this, how about 1540FPS with my 4 1/4" barrel. The recoil is definitely more, so is the noise, and accuracy is excellent. This velocity apparently gets the Sig back to where it was originally intended. I've just changed my opinion on what I'm going to use for defensive carry. They produce ammunition for a lot of different calibers and on their website they show velocities achieved. I checked the brass after firing and everything was fine.

I will have to try some Underwood ammo. I picked up a Sig 4 1/4" barrel for my M&P 40 and it seems to be running slow with the factory loads I have tried. The best velocity was with Double Tap 125 gr GD and it was 1400 fps, that is 140 fps less than Underwood, wow. Thanks

diverdown, did you ever get a Sig?
 
AFG270, yes I did. The forum website had a problem with my original moniker "bigrifleman" and I switched over to diverdown. The problem however seems to have been corrected so I went back to the original moniker. I have a P226 and I did purchase the extra .40 S&W barrel to go with it. I ran the underwood ammo through my Oehler35P and got a nice surprise. You'll find most factory loads hover between 1350-1400FPS. ( I ran the Sig loads and Federal loads through the chronograph). When you pull the trigger on the Underwood ammo you'll know it.
 
Okay, sorry I didn't catch that.

I picked up some Speer 125 gr TMJ on sale at Midway and loaded them with Universal, CFE Pistol, and Longshot. Longshot gave my the best speed, low SD and was very accurate. I like the Universal load for practice though, I had an average of 1200 fps and Universal is very clean in my S&W.
 
You can smoke em as Vince said with Accurate 9. Perfect powder for that cartridge. I load 13 gr w a 125 Gold Dot and it averages at 1450. Safe and accurate in my G31.

On the Underwood. They load some terrific cartridges. Want to have fun get a 10mm Glock and the Underwood 180s. Let's the 10mm show what they made it for IMO. You are correct in that their 357 Sig ammo is top notch.
 
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