I've been kind of tossing the idea around for awhile on purchasing a .357 Sig. Has anybody had experiences with this caliber or the Sig Handgun. Looking at the ballistics I'm impressed and apparently there are PD's that use this caliber and are very satisfied with it. Thoughts?
.357 Sig
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salmonchaser
Ammo Smith
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Very limited experience. One of the officers who worked for me had one as an off duty carry. I probably shot a box of shells through it. The Sig was utterly reliable and pleasant to shoot. Can't really say much more about it. The cartridge never seemed to take off of course but it should prove an effective conversation starter/ stopper.
Guy Miner
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Sorry, very limited experience. Seems like a worthwhile cartridge, and of course Sig builds a high quality product.
I understand that the .357 Sig was popular with law enforcement in Texas for a time. Not sure they're still using it.
Guy
I understand that the .357 Sig was popular with law enforcement in Texas for a time. Not sure they're still using it.
Guy
Texas DPS has gone away from the 357 Sig, sadly.
I have one and found it to be an excellent cartridge based on post shooting reports. Mine is a Sig P226 that I carried off duty.
I think it is destined to be a niche round like the .41 Magnum. Since I'm no longer working in corrections I've gone back to the .41 Magnum.
Vince
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I have one and found it to be an excellent cartridge based on post shooting reports. Mine is a Sig P226 that I carried off duty.
I think it is destined to be a niche round like the .41 Magnum. Since I'm no longer working in corrections I've gone back to the .41 Magnum.
Vince
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375hh1973
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I have owned a Sig P226 in .357 Sig since 1998. Its not the cheapest thing to shoot but its a great caliber. I carry it most often of all of my CCW guns. I have large hands so I got rid of the factory grip and went with a Hogue rubber finger groove grip. As with every P226 I have ever shot, it is EXTREMELY accurate. I killed a raccoon at 35 yards with one shot. I have also upgraded the sights, it now has night sights with a ghost ring rear. My preferred load is the Speer Gold Dot.
Wyo7200
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I carry a G33 and like the caliber. I reload for it, using a Dillon 550 for the powder drop, seating and crimping. I size the cases In .40, then run them through the .357 die for the shoulder and neck. It's not that difficult as the Internet claims it to be.
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Cartridge : .357 SIG
Bullet : .355, 124, Speer TMJ 3993
Useable Case Capaci: 11.614 grain H2O = 0.754 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.140 inch = 28.96 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch = 127.0 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 40707 psi, or 280 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant POWER PISTOL 100.0 8.5 0.55 1490 94.5 40707 7048 0.433 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.7 94.6 10.8 0.70 1479 85.0 40707 7059 0.435 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.1 93.9 10.8 0.70 1479 85.0 40707 7059 0.435 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 24 101.9 9.8 0.63 1469 88.1 40707 6852 0.434 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806 105.0 11.2 0.73 1460 97.3 34814 7213 0.469
Somchem S221 86.8 9.7 0.63 1455 91.7 40707 6631 0.442 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 102.8 11.7 0.76 1447 77.6 40707 6695 0.435 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.2 101.7 11.7 0.76 1447 77.6 40707 6695 0.435 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D036 75.5 8.4 0.54 1445 96.7 40707 6262 0.437 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex brown 75.5 8.3 0.54 1445 96.7 40707 6260 0.437 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5 75.5 8.3 0.54 1445 96.7 40707 6260 0.437 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 101.0 8.3 0.54 1436 99.3 40707 5908 0.440 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 104.5 8.1 0.53 1427 99.4 40707 5742 0.438 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HS-6 81.8 8.7 0.56 1426 98.1 40707 5894 0.440 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 501 85.4 8.0 0.52 1421 100.0 40707 5548 0.443 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Longshot 77.7 8.4 0.54 1420 99.1 40707 5738 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue 76.9 8.4 0.54 1419 99.1 40707 5714 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 504 78.2 8.4 0.54 1419 99.1 40707 5714 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540 75.7 8.4 0.54 1418 99.2 40707 5706 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 102.1 7.0 0.46 1418 100.0 40707 5411 0.447 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP 83.1 7.7 0.50 1408 100.0 40707 5369 0.442 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette 82.7 7.7 0.50 1407 100.0 40707 5341 0.442 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE 88.8 6.3 0.41 1406 100.0 40707 5260 0.441 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie P2636 Ws 100.5 7.2 0.47 1402 100.0 40707 4985 0.443 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MP200 93.2 7.3 0.48 1402 100.0 40707 5252 0.446 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 506 88.8 6.7 0.44 1397 100.0 40707 5102 0.451 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P803 93.4 7.3 0.47 1391 100.0 40707 4914 0.456 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 20 105.0 7.5 0.49 1391 100.0 35987 5401 0.461
Somchem MS200 99.0 6.9 0.45 1379 100.0 40707 4905 0.449 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 98.3 7.0 0.45 1376 100.0 40707 4852 0.447 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex yellow 90.6 6.7 0.44 1364 100.0 40707 4663 0.450 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S020 90.6 6.7 0.44 1364 100.0 40707 4663 0.450 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 12 94.1 6.7 0.44 1363 100.0 40707 4612 0.461 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 90 105.0 7.8 0.50 1361 98.9 32470 5696 0.478
Rottweil P804 83.5 7.0 0.45 1359 100.0 40707 4605 0.461 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 70N 84.8 6.5 0.42 1358 100.0 40707 4630 0.456 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 94.0 6.5 0.42 1358 100.0 40707 4630 0.456 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330 94.0 6.6 0.43 1355 100.0 40707 4473 0.451 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 90.5 6.4 0.42 1352 100.0 40707 4740 0.447 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 515 96.2 6.7 0.44 1346 100.0 40707 4451 0.451 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 2 101.2 6.6 0.43 1345 100.0 40707 4391 0.461 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 105.0 7.1 0.46 1340 99.6 33167 5435 0.491
Accurate Solo 1250 99.7 6.4 0.41 1332 100.0 40707 4275 0.452 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 509 93.0 6.5 0.42 1329 100.0 40707 4283 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 1 105.0 6.6 0.43 1326 100.0 40362 4214 0.455 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip 71.4 6.4 0.42 1325 100.0 40707 4242 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231 79.5 6.4 0.42 1325 100.0 40707 4242 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 105.0 9.2 0.59 1320 84.1 30945 5821 0.496
Hodgdon HP38 70.6 6.3 0.41 1317 100.0 40707 4158 0.455 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D032 63.8 5.7 0.37 1308 100.0 40707 4090 0.453 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex green 63.8 5.7 0.37 1308 100.0 40707 4090 0.453 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 3 98.1 6.1 0.39 1307 100.0 40707 4047 0.457 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT 97.0 5.8 0.38 1300 100.0 40707 4054 0.463 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S011 81.1 5.9 0.38 1300 100.0 40707 3984 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex red 81.1 5.9 0.38 1300 100.0 40707 3984 0.454 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123 105.0 11.2 0.73 1297 79.6 21869 7250 0.563
ADI AS 50N 92.0 5.7 0.37 1296 100.0 40707 3994 0.463 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100 94.6 5.3 0.34 1295 100.0 40707 4022 0.459 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D013 94.6 5.3 0.34 1295 100.0 40707 4022 0.459 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N320 91.5 5.7 0.37 1292 100.0 40707 3889 0.463 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P801 82.1 6.2 0.40 1291 100.0 40707 3989 0.471 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 4 94.4 5.7 0.37 1285 100.0 40707 3864 0.460 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706 105.0 6.7 0.44 1284 100.0 28354 4994 0.544
Alliant 2400 105.0 10.7 0.69 1283 67.2 27870 5895 0.519
ADI AP 100 105.0 7.8 0.50 1277 90.2 29473 5314 0.508
Lovex S015 94.1 5.6 0.36 1273 100.0 40707 3790 0.462 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1000 94.1 5.6 0.36 1273 100.0 40707 3790 0.462 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 105.0 11.5 0.74 1272 66.7 26613 5901 0.523
Alliant RED DOT 98.7 5.3 0.34 1269 100.0 40707 3806 0.468 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon TiteGroup 65.3 5.7 0.37 1264 100.0 40707 3698 0.465 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 105.0 9.2 0.59 1260 76.2 27185 5625 0.530
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28 105.0 6.0 0.39 1249 100.0 32873 3994 0.492
ADI AS 30 95.8 5.3 0.34 1245 100.0 40707 3589 0.471 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32 105.0 5.9 0.38 1244 100.0 31336 4060 0.506
Vihtavuori N105 105.0 8.8 0.57 1242 82.5 23579 5747 0.550
PB Clermont PCL 514 85.7 5.1 0.33 1235 100.0 40707 3448 0.468 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36 105.0 6.2 0.40 1232 100.0 28876 4164 0.524
Maxam CSB 5 88.7 5.2 0.33 1231 100.0 40707 3454 0.471 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P805 101.8 5.4 0.35 1225 100.0 40707 3458 0.479 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R1 99.6 5.4 0.35 1225 100.0 40707 3456 0.479 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 105.0 11.6 0.75 1208 60.2 25378 5198 0.540
Vihtavuori N310 75.7 4.7 0.31 1196 100.0 40707 3182 0.481 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S040 105.0 10.0 0.65 1185 63.6 24518 4952 0.550
PB Clermont PCL 512 105.0 10.8 0.70 1173 62.4 21679 5224 0.577
Hodgdon Clays 88.8 4.5 0.29 1168 100.0 40707 3032 0.481 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D063 105.0 11.7 0.76 1098 44.6 23447 3988 0.571
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 105.0 5.6 0.36 1095 100.0 28718 2846 0.559
Accurate 5744 105.0 10.8 0.70 1094 46.5 22552 4208 0.586
Hodgdon H110 105.0 12.1 0.78 1087 49.7 18634 4688 0.617
Winchester 296 105.0 12.1 0.78 1085 45.3 18752 4702 0.618
Rottweil R910 105.0 10.4 0.67 1080 52.5 19795 4270 0.606
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 105.0 11.7 0.76 1068 49.9 18522 4617 0.621
Lovex D060 105.0 10.5 0.68 1064 45.4 21075 4033 0.604
ADI AR 2205 105.0 10.7 0.69 1053 52.5 20063 3954 0.612
ReloadSwiss RS 30 105.0 9.9 0.64 1030 51.4 17312 3973 0.642
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 105.0 11.2 0.73 1009 44.0 16735 3911 0.653
Somchem S265 105.0 10.3 0.67 980 48.3 16382 3683 0.685
Vihtavuori N110 105.0 9.5 0.62 968 49.7 14447 3770 0.690
IMR 4227 105.0 10.3 0.67 949 39.8 15812 3127 0.679
Accurate 1680 105.0 11.7 0.76 927 33.1 16164 2952 0.677
Hodgdon H4227 105.0 10.3 0.67 921 37.7 14818 2963 0.699
Lovex S053 105.0 10.1 0.65 904 40.5 13152 3106 0.729
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 105.0 10.9 0.71 858 30.3 13463 2460 0.734
Vihtavuori N125 105.0 10.4 0.68 854 34.1 12197 2668 0.758
Hodgdon H4198 105.0 10.6 0.68 853 30.8 13133 2455 0.741
IMR TrailBoss 105.0 3.8 0.25 838 100.0 12547 2120 0.780
ADI AS 25 BP 105.0 3.8 0.25 838 100.0 12547 2120 0.780
IMR 4198 105.0 10.1 0.65 818 30.3 11608 2301 0.780
Accurate 2200 105.0 11.4 0.74 810 25.8 12305 2231 0.774
ADI AR 2207 105.0 10.5 0.68 798 28.9 10829 2315 0.813
ADI BM2 105.0 12.0 0.78 797 24.6 11950 2159 0.786
Alliant Reloder-7 105.0 10.9 0.70 797 28.6 10786 2356 0.811
Vihtavuori N120 105.0 10.3 0.67 787 30.1 10513 2220 0.828
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 105.0 11.5 0.75 783 23.9 11258 2105 0.803
ADI AR 2219 105.0 11.6 0.75 767 22.6 11245 1960 0.810
ADI AR 2210 105.0 11.6 0.75 762 22.9 10970 1973 0.817
Kazan Sunar 308W 105.0 11.0 0.71 758 26.1 10185 2038 0.840
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 105.0 12.0 0.78 754 21.6 10739 1925 0.824
SNPE Vectan SP 10 105.0 12.0 0.78 754 21.6 10719 1927 0.825
Hodgdon H335 105.0 12.3 0.79 748 21.1 10878 1868 0.824
ReloadSwiss RS 40 105.0 11.5 0.74 727 21.0 9886 1788 0.855
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 11.1 0.72 726 22.4 9520 1814 0.867
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 11.5 0.74 719 21.7 9609 1746 0.868
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 10.5 0.68 718 24.3 9037 1819 0.887
ADI AR 2206 105.0 11.1 0.72 718 21.8 9465 1741 0.873
Hodgdon H322 105.0 10.9 0.71 717 21.2 9496 1735 0.871
Ramshot X-Terminator 105.0 12.0 0.78 713 19.7 9717 1701 0.865
Alliant Reloder-10x 105.0 10.6 0.69 711 22.3 8820 1810 0.891
Lovex S060 105.0 10.9 0.71 705 20.9 9101 1679 0.887
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 105.0 11.5 0.74 701 20.7 9000 1704 0.889
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 11.3 0.73 695 18.9 9223 1617 0.885
IMR 8208 XBR 105.0 11.2 0.73 694 19.4 8958 1615 0.894
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 105.0 11.2 0.72 692 19.7 9081 1587 0.892
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 11.7 0.76 692 18.5 9078 1597 0.891
Winchester 748 105.0 12.1 0.78 688 17.4 9394 1533 0.883
Ramshot TAC 105.0 12.1 0.79 687 17.5 9238 1551 0.887
Norma 200 105.0 11.0 0.71 686 21.0 8059 1766 0.921
Somchem S321 105.0 12.1 0.78 680 17.7 8947 1554 0.899
Vihtavuori N133 105.0 10.3 0.67 679 22.1 8266 1566 0.929
Ramshot Wild Boar 105.0 12.0 0.78 676 17.1 8905 1496 0.902
Hodgdon CFE223 105.0 12.5 0.81 668 15.9 9093 1432 0.900
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 105.0 10.9 0.71 663 18.8 8253 1467 0.930
Lovex D073.4 105.0 12.0 0.78 663 17.0 8836 1460 0.918
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 11.6 0.75 662 17.1 8371 1449 0.925
Accurate 2230 105.0 12.2 0.79 662 16.6 9010 1429 0.914
Alliant AR-Comp 105.0 10.9 0.70 659 18.7 8138 1451 0.935
Somchem S341 105.0 12.1 0.78 658 16.5 8713 1381 0.917
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 11.2 0.73 657 16.9 8049 1454 0.936
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 11.2 0.73 657 16.9 8042 1453 0.936
Accurate 2015 105.0 10.8 0.70 655 19.3 7737 1507 0.950
ADI AR 2208 105.0 10.9 0.71 651 17.5 7933 1406 0.947
Somchem S335 105.0 11.0 0.71 650 19.5 7623 1474 0.959
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 10.9 0.70 649 17.5 7870 1397 0.950
PB Clermont PCL 516 105.0 12.0 0.78 648 15.7 8364 1358 0.931
Norma 202 105.0 11.1 0.72 647 17.7 7740 1420 0.954
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 105.0 11.3 0.73 643 15.9 8275 1301 0.939
IMR 4320 105.0 11.1 0.72 642 16.6 7971 1330 0.949
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 12.3 0.79 642 15.3 8227 1350 0.949
Vihtavuori N140 105.0 11.0 0.71 641 18.1 7703 1374 0.961
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 11.4 0.74 637 17.4 7561 1386 0.967
Accurate 2460 105.0 12.1 0.78 633 15.6 7972 1344 0.960
Lovex D073.5 105.0 12.1 0.78 631 15.6 7904 1336 0.963
IMR 4064 105.0 10.6 0.69 627 16.5 7360 1291 0.979
IMR 3031 105.0 10.5 0.68 626 16.6 7249 1302 0.982
Ramshot Big Game 105.0 12.0 0.78 625 14.6 7821 1245 0.972
IMR 4895 105.0 11.2 0.73 624 15.0 7371 1292 0.989
SNPE Vectan SP 7 105.0 12.1 0.78 620 14.3 7891 1233 0.970
Raufoss RA11 105.0 11.2 0.73 619 14.8 7291 1262 0.995
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 11.2 0.73 619 14.8 7291 1262 0.995
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 11.2 0.73 619 14.8 7291 1262 0.995
Norma 203B 105.0 11.2 0.73 613 14.7 7154 1240 1.004
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 105.0 11.2 0.72 612 15.2 7426 1193 0.985
ReloadSwiss RS 50 105.0 11.7 0.76 611 14.3 7444 1198 0.993
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 105.0 11.6 0.75 610 14.5 7375 1197 0.997
Norma 201 105.0 11.0 0.71 610 15.7 6887 1288 1.016
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 11.6 0.75 607 14.2 7221 1189 1.006
Accurate 2520 105.0 11.9 0.77 604 14.2 7318 1188 1.001
ReloadSwiss RS 52 105.0 11.6 0.75 602 13.9 7185 1168 1.009
Rottweil R901 105.0 10.7 0.69 602 16.3 6276 1339 1.045
Lovex S062 105.0 10.9 0.71 600 15.1 6742 1205 1.016
Rottweil R902 105.0 10.8 0.70 597 15.3 6595 1221 1.037
Lovex D073.6 105.0 11.6 0.75 590 13.9 6913 1137 1.026
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 11.4 0.74 590 13.5 6946 1121 1.025
Accurate 2700 105.0 11.7 0.76 588 13.8 7116 1089 1.021
Hodgdon H380 105.0 11.5 0.74 584 13.1 6813 1104 1.033
Elcho 17 105.0 11.8 0.76 577 12.2 6795 1045 1.039
Alliant Reloder-17 105.0 11.8 0.76 577 12.2 6795 1045 1.039
Winchester 760 105.0 11.9 0.77 576 11.8 6866 1029 1.034
Hodgdon H414 105.0 11.9 0.77 576 11.8 6866 1029 1.034
IMR 4350 105.0 11.2 0.72 574 13.1 6539 1036 1.056
ReloadSwiss RS 60 105.0 11.8 0.76 573 12.1 6745 1030 1.043
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 10.2 0.66 573 15.5 6117 1086 1.065
Somchem S355 105.0 11.0 0.71 573 13.6 6279 1082 1.068
Rottweil R907 105.0 11.0 0.71 572 13.1 6447 1059 1.058
Bofors RP7 105.0 11.0 0.71 572 13.1 6447 1059 1.058
PB Clermont PCL 511 105.0 12.0 0.78 566 11.7 6581 1000 1.055
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 11.0 0.71 564 12.9 6278 1000 1.075
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 11.5 0.74 560 12.0 6204 1008 1.077
Norma 204 105.0 11.6 0.75 558 11.5 6529 957 1.063
Lovex S065 105.0 11.0 0.71 557 12.8 6018 1009 1.091
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 10.6 0.69 555 14.0 5932 1005 1.087
Bofors RP3 105.0 11.4 0.74 552 12.1 6109 986 1.087
Norma 203 old 105.0 11.4 0.74 552 12.1 6109 986 1.087
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 11.6 0.75 549 11.4 6113 943 1.090
Norma URP 105.0 11.1 0.72 545 11.7 5941 940 1.101
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 11.1 0.72 545 11.7 5937 939 1.102
Rottweil R904 105.0 11.1 0.72 544 11.6 6076 910 1.096
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 11.2 0.73 542 11.2 6065 906 1.097
Raufoss RA4 105.0 11.2 0.73 542 11.2 6065 906 1.097
Rottweil R903 105.0 11.1 0.72 540 11.8 5841 934 1.109
ADI AR 2209 105.0 11.2 0.72 537 10.9 5993 886 1.104
Lovex S070 105.0 11.1 0.72 537 11.5 5747 920 1.116
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 105.0 11.4 0.74 535 11.1 5948 884 1.109
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 11.2 0.73 533 10.8 5765 881 1.119
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 10.9 0.70 529 11.9 5705 864 1.130
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 11.2 0.73 528 10.7 5680 862 1.128
Somchem S361 105.0 12.0 0.78 527 10.7 5944 837 1.116
Accurate 2495 105.0 11.0 0.71 524 11.5 5445 920 1.138
ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.0 12.0 0.78 523 9.7 5921 825 1.117
ReloadSwiss RS 62 105.0 11.8 0.76 518 10.0 5677 819 1.134
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 11.4 0.74 514 10.0 5673 792 1.140
Accurate 4064 105.0 11.0 0.71 512 11.1 5137 862 1.169
Somchem S365 105.0 11.2 0.72 511 10.5 5391 805 1.159
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 10.8 0.70 506 10.7 5270 776 1.173
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 11.9 0.77 505 9.7 5721 757 1.147
ADI AR 2213 105.0 11.4 0.74 505 9.2 5512 759 1.155
IMR 4831 105.0 10.8 0.70 503 10.5 5110 786 1.183
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 10.9 0.71 497 9.7 5226 743 1.181
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 11.5 0.75 497 8.7 5467 720 1.189
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 11.5 0.74 497 9.2 5268 740 1.177
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 11.5 0.74 490 8.4 5137 714 1.215
Somchem S385 105.0 11.4 0.74 489 9.4 5085 724 1.195
Accurate 4350 105.0 11.2 0.73 488 9.1 5147 720 1.220
Raufoss RA15 105.0 11.4 0.74 487 8.7 5029 714 1.230
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 11.4 0.74 487 8.7 5029 714 1.230
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 11.4 0.74 487 8.7 5029 714 1.230
Norma MRP 105.0 11.7 0.76 484 8.4 5097 704 1.224
Rottweil R905 105.0 11.2 0.72 479 8.6 4968 675 1.242
Bofors RP15 105.0 11.1 0.72 477 8.6 4793 687 1.258
Winchester WXR 105.0 11.1 0.72 477 8.6 4793 687 1.258
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 11.1 0.72 477 9.4 4899 673 1.223
IMR 7828 105.0 10.9 0.71 475 8.4 4889 659 1.251
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 11.0 0.71 470 9.1 4652 669 1.285
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 12.0 0.77 465 7.3 4879 623 1.253
Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 12.1 0.78 464 7.5 4896 630 1.255
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 11.2 0.72 461 8.3 4564 631 1.295
ADI AP 2214 105.0 11.7 0.76 459 7.7 4942 595 1.263
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 12.2 0.79 447 7.2 4912 558 1.278
ADI AR 2217 105.0 11.1 0.72 441 7.5 4481 550 1.320
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 11.1 0.72 441 7.5 4481 550 1.320
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 12.0 0.78 439 6.7 4690 538 1.299
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 12.0 0.78 438 6.7 4677 536 1.301
Accurate 3100 105.0 11.2 0.73 431 7.5 4262 539 1.350
Bofors RP30 105.0 11.2 0.73 427 6.7 4128 522 1.359
Norma MRP 2 105.0 11.2 0.73 427 6.7 4128 522 1.359
ADI AR 2225 105.0 11.3 0.73 421 6.8 4042 504 1.381
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 11.3 0.73 421 6.8 4042 504 1.381
Lovex D100 105.0 12.1 0.78 417 6.2 4319 473 1.358
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 12.0 0.78 416 5.9 4252 471 1.360
Lovex S071 105.0 10.6 0.69 415 7.3 3900 498 1.408
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 11.9 0.77 414 5.5 4107 470 1.369
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 11.1 0.72 414 6.6 3947 484 1.397
ADI AR 2218 105.0 12.0 0.78 401 5.2 4061 429 1.395
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 12.2 0.79 397 5.2 3935 430 1.412
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 11.4 0.74 392 5.2 3782 414 1.435
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 12.2 0.79 388 5.0 3841 404 1.463
Hodgdon H870 105.0 11.6 0.75 388 5.3 3677 409 1.456
Norma 217 105.0 11.1 0.72 387 5.6 3585 408 1.470
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 12.0 0.78 385 5.2 3725 395 1.457
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 11.0 0.71 382 4.8 3664 356 1.489
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 11.5 0.74 373 5.2 3498 372 1.506
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 11.0 0.71 370 4.7 3471 340 1.536
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 11.5 0.74 367 5.0 3428 356 1.525
Accurate 8700 105.0 11.7 0.76 367 5.0 3534 348 1.514
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 11.9 0.77 352 4.0 3287 321 1.581
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 12.1 0.78 352 4.3 3369 316 1.586
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 12.2 0.79 351 4.0 3338 318 1.580
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 11.0 0.71 303 2.8 2834 193 1.816big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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Well guys, I bit the bullet and picked up a 226 Sig in .357 Sig. I already have the dies including the .40 caliber dies so the choice wasn't hard. What's interesting and Fotis mentioned it was that all I need to do to switch to .40 caliber from .357 is change the barrels out. Even the magazines work perfectly. I convinced myself that this was a great reason to buy this gun. I have one of the last 226's made before the underside was changed to accommodate a light. (more convenient in a holster). Looking forward to a range test. Will advise as to results.
big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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Finally got to my buddy's range and fired 124 grain Ranier bullets with 6.4 grains of Universal Clays at 10 Yards. Accuracy was excellent, recoil was negligible, and feeding was excellent. I noticed that Sierra is now producing 125 grain Sig V-max bullets with a cannelure that I believe are specifically made for the .357 Sig. I picked up a .40 barrel and will be trying this next. I read up on reloading this cartridge and there are more than a few people that believe it headspaces on the mouth. Called Sierra and found that it definitely headspaces on the shoulder. Actually makes more sense.
big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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Fotis, forgot to say thank you for the load data. That was a godsend.
big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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Thanks Vince, I haven't seen too much Accurate Arms powder in my area. Hopefully the next gunshow will turn something up.
big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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I thought I would touch bases with the people that wrote on this forum. I've been reloading the .357 Sig for a while now with 125 grain Ranier bullets and Universal clays. My average velocity for target loads is around 1250FPS which has been pleasant and functions the P226 reliably. My go to loads "were" both the Speer Gold dot load and the Federal HST load. I just found something that spun my head around. I picked up a couple of boxes of Underwood ammunition in the 125 grain weight gold dot after reading about them in another forum and my latest gun magazine. I ran them through my chronograph and, are you ready for this, how about 1540FPS with my 4 1/4" barrel. The recoil is definitely more, so is the noise, and accuracy is excellent. This velocity apparently gets the Sig back to where it was originally intended. I've just changed my opinion on what I'm going to use for defensive carry. They produce ammunition for a lot of different calibers and on their website they show velocities achieved. I checked the brass after firing and everything was fine.
big rifle man":2igomcxa said:
I will have to try some Underwood ammo. I picked up a Sig 4 1/4" barrel for my M&P 40 and it seems to be running slow with the factory loads I have tried. The best velocity was with Double Tap 125 gr GD and it was 1400 fps, that is 140 fps less than Underwood, wow. Thanks
diverdown, did you ever get a Sig?
big rifle man
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- Dec 21, 2005
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AFG270, yes I did. The forum website had a problem with my original moniker "bigrifleman" and I switched over to diverdown. The problem however seems to have been corrected so I went back to the original moniker. I have a P226 and I did purchase the extra .40 S&W barrel to go with it. I ran the underwood ammo through my Oehler35P and got a nice surprise. You'll find most factory loads hover between 1350-1400FPS. ( I ran the Sig loads and Federal loads through the chronograph). When you pull the trigger on the Underwood ammo you'll know it.
Okay, sorry I didn't catch that.
I picked up some Speer 125 gr TMJ on sale at Midway and loaded them with Universal, CFE Pistol, and Longshot. Longshot gave my the best speed, low SD and was very accurate. I like the Universal load for practice though, I had an average of 1200 fps and Universal is very clean in my S&W.
I picked up some Speer 125 gr TMJ on sale at Midway and loaded them with Universal, CFE Pistol, and Longshot. Longshot gave my the best speed, low SD and was very accurate. I like the Universal load for practice though, I had an average of 1200 fps and Universal is very clean in my S&W.
You can smoke em as Vince said with Accurate 9. Perfect powder for that cartridge. I load 13 gr w a 125 Gold Dot and it averages at 1450. Safe and accurate in my G31.
On the Underwood. They load some terrific cartridges. Want to have fun get a 10mm Glock and the Underwood 180s. Let's the 10mm show what they made it for IMO. You are correct in that their 357 Sig ammo is top notch.
On the Underwood. They load some terrific cartridges. Want to have fun get a 10mm Glock and the Underwood 180s. Let's the 10mm show what they made it for IMO. You are correct in that their 357 Sig ammo is top notch.
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