40 s&w 170 lead bullets and green dot or red

[Sas874runner]

Has anyone used this bullet and powder combo for a 40 s&w? I have both green dot and red dot powders. Unfortunatly that is all I can get at this time. The load data I can find is for hornady xtp in a 170 with both powders. Could this data be used being the fact that it will be a lead bullet and not a copper jacketed?

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge          : .40 S&W (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .400, 170, Nosler HP 44844
Useable Case Capaci: 11.348 grain H2O = 0.737 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.135 inch = 28.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant GREEN DOT

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   69     4.00    855     276   18206   3087    100.0    0.617
-18.0   70     4.10    870     286   19077   3147    100.0    0.603
-16.0   72     4.20    885     296   19972   3206    100.0    0.589
-14.0   74     4.30    900     306   20890   3265    100.0    0.577
-12.0   75     4.40    914     316   21832   3325    100.0    0.564
-10.0   77     4.50    929     325   22798   3384    100.0    0.552
-08.0   79     4.60    943     335   23789   3443    100.0    0.541
-06.0   81     4.70    956     345   24805   3502    100.0    0.530
-04.0   82     4.80    970     355   25847   3561    100.0    0.519
-02.0   84     4.90    984     365   26913   3620    100.0    0.509
+00.0   86     5.00    997     375   28007   3679    100.0    0.499
+02.0   87     5.10   1010     385   29126   3737    100.0    0.490
+04.0   89     5.20   1023     395   30273   3796    100.0    0.481  ! Near Maximum !
+06.0   91     5.30   1036     405   31446   3854    100.0    0.472  ! Near Maximum !
+08.0   93     5.40   1049     415   32648   3912    100.0    0.464  ! Near Maximum !
+10.0   94     5.50   1062     425   33878   3970    100.0    0.456  ! Near Maximum !

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     86     5.00   1008     383   29900   3633    100.0    0.486  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     86     5.00    984     366   26083   3734    100.0    0.515

Cartridge          : .40 S&W (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .400, 170, Nosler HP 44844
Useable Case Capaci: 11.348 grain H2O = 0.737 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.135 inch = 28.83 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant RED DOT

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   77     4.00    905     309   22521   3080    100.0    0.558
-18.0   79     4.10    919     319   23569   3144    100.0    0.546
-16.0   81     4.20    933     329   24644   3208    100.0    0.534
-14.0   83     4.30    947     339   25747   3271    100.0    0.523
-12.0   84     4.40    961     349   26877   3335    100.0    0.513
-10.0   86     4.50    975     359   28035   3398    100.0    0.502
-08.0   88     4.60    988     369   29221   3462    100.0    0.493
-06.0   90     4.70   1002     379   30436   3525    100.0    0.484  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0   92     4.80   1015     389   31679   3588    100.0    0.475  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   94     4.90   1028     399   32952   3651    100.0    0.466  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   96     5.00   1041     409   34255   3713    100.0    0.458  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   98     5.10   1054     419   35588   3775    100.0    0.450  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  100     5.20   1067     429   36951   3838    100.0    0.442  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  102     5.30   1079     440   38345   3899    100.0    0.435  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  104     5.40   1092     450   39771   3961    100.0    0.428  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  106     5.50   1104     460   41229   4023    100.0    0.421  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     96     5.00   1048     415   36401   3680    100.0    0.448  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     96     5.00   1032     402   32042   3753    100.0    0.470  ! Near Maximum !

 

[Sas874runner]

Thanks fotis!

 

[Wincheringen]

5 grains of Red Dot has been accurate for me with 175s. I use Titegroup because it is just as accurate and cleaner. I've used Red Dot & Green Dot in a fair number of pistol loads with success.

 

[Sas874runner]

Meters like hell but my 45 likes it. Accurate as hell with 230 grainers

 

[FOTIS]

My pleasure sir!