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What loads have worked for you. Accuracy? Velocity? 8)
45-70 and 350 gr bullets
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Thebear_78
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350gr kodiaks
Starline brass
H4198 52.0gr
2230fps
But shot more 405gr than anything else
405 rem/kodiak
Starline brass
H322 54.0gr
1930fps
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Starline brass
H4198 52.0gr
2230fps
But shot more 405gr than anything else
405 rem/kodiak
Starline brass
H322 54.0gr
1930fps
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Shot from my 1st generation stainless Marlin GG;
300 Hornady, 56.0/H322,F210M =1.25@ 100 yds.
350 NorthFork, 54.0/H322, F210M=2" @ 100 yds.
300 Nosler FP, 53.0/ RL7, F210M= 0.5" @ 100 yds.
All were loaded into Starline cases.
These loads produced more recoil than my old bones could tolerate, so the rifle and these fine bullets now reside at someone else's cabin.
Approach them with usual caution.
300 Hornady, 56.0/H322,F210M =1.25@ 100 yds.
350 NorthFork, 54.0/H322, F210M=2" @ 100 yds.
300 Nosler FP, 53.0/ RL7, F210M= 0.5" @ 100 yds.
All were loaded into Starline cases.
These loads produced more recoil than my old bones could tolerate, so the rifle and these fine bullets now reside at someone else's cabin.
Approach them with usual caution.
Guy Miner
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350 gr Hornady FNSP, 50 H4198, WW brass, CCI 200 = 2080 fps
She's a little stout - but tolerable for a recoil-proof shooter like yourself Fotis! :mrgreen:
The same powder charge with a 350 gr Swift (awesome bullet) resulted in 2040 fps.
Under max, according to Hodgdon.
I'm not sure I ever shot "groups" but had no problem ringing the gong at 200 yds with that load. That was from a 22" Marlin 1895.
Regards, Guy
She's a little stout - but tolerable for a recoil-proof shooter like yourself Fotis! :mrgreen:
The same powder charge with a 350 gr Swift (awesome bullet) resulted in 2040 fps.
Under max, according to Hodgdon.
I'm not sure I ever shot "groups" but had no problem ringing the gong at 200 yds with that load. That was from a 22" Marlin 1895.
Regards, Guy
Paul Barnard
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My go to load was 57 grains of 3031 pushing a Hornady 350 Round nose out of a Guide Gun. Even with a piddly 2X shotgun scope I shot 3/4 inch groups with boring consistency. I didn't have a chrono. My shoulder needs replacement surgery so I sold the gun. I wish I hadn't.
Guy Miner
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Terrific rifles, those big-bore Marlins.
Even at less than max velocity. A slow-moving .45 cal bullet is formidable, even going slow.
Even at less than max velocity. A slow-moving .45 cal bullet is formidable, even going slow.
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Thebear_78":3i1m75qj said:
guide gun or?????
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"Even at less than max velocity. A slow-moving .45 cal bullet is formidable, even going slow."
Let me tell you about slow moving 45 cal bullets. I once shot a deer at 111 yards away with my Sharps 45-70 using a slug cast from the Lyman 405 gr mold that came out 418 grs from my mix. It was propelled by 70 grs FFG black powder out of a WW case fired with a Fed 215 primer. 1400 fps was the velocity. Deer was facing me and I aimed for the white patch in the center of it's chest that I could see well through the vernier peep sights. When the smoke cleared the deer was dead on the spot. Upon getting to the deer I found that between the time I fired and the bullet got there the deer started to put it's head down and the bullet struck it in the forehead between the eyes. The bullet went down it's neck making saw dust out of the vertebra and then deflected and came out right behind the left shoulder. The bullet then went back and hit the left leg just above the knee joint and shot it clean off. The bullet then hit the HARD packed logging road and looked like a mole had went down the road for about 5 yards. Then the bullet came out of the ground and about 10 yards away it went through the base of a 6" pine tree jerking a slab the size of my hand of the back and that is where I lost track of the slug. A freight train don't have to be going fast to do a lot of damage.
I have a friend that shoots the suggested hunting load out of the older Sierra manual with their 300 gr HP, 51.8 grs IMR 4198. From his 22" barrel Marlin it something to behold what it does to a deer. By the way don't have any loose fillings in your teeth because this load will dislodge them.
Let me tell you about slow moving 45 cal bullets. I once shot a deer at 111 yards away with my Sharps 45-70 using a slug cast from the Lyman 405 gr mold that came out 418 grs from my mix. It was propelled by 70 grs FFG black powder out of a WW case fired with a Fed 215 primer. 1400 fps was the velocity. Deer was facing me and I aimed for the white patch in the center of it's chest that I could see well through the vernier peep sights. When the smoke cleared the deer was dead on the spot. Upon getting to the deer I found that between the time I fired and the bullet got there the deer started to put it's head down and the bullet struck it in the forehead between the eyes. The bullet went down it's neck making saw dust out of the vertebra and then deflected and came out right behind the left shoulder. The bullet then went back and hit the left leg just above the knee joint and shot it clean off. The bullet then hit the HARD packed logging road and looked like a mole had went down the road for about 5 yards. Then the bullet came out of the ground and about 10 yards away it went through the base of a 6" pine tree jerking a slab the size of my hand of the back and that is where I lost track of the slug. A freight train don't have to be going fast to do a lot of damage.
I have a friend that shoots the suggested hunting load out of the older Sierra manual with their 300 gr HP, 51.8 grs IMR 4198. From his 22" barrel Marlin it something to behold what it does to a deer. By the way don't have any loose fillings in your teeth because this load will dislodge them.
Thebear_78
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Guide gun
Guy Miner
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diverdown":3gqlxtt2 said:
Exactly.
It was funny, when I was playing with the .45/70 for about nine years - first thing I noticed was how much it reminded me of the days when I was hunting with a traditional .50 cal muzzle loader... Big bullet, modest velocity, fun to shoot and effective.
Or, with the Marlin & Ruger rifles a fellow can get pretty wild with the powder scale... :mrgreen:
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Guy Miner said:
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Never used them....
Guy Miner":fnfrtccc said:
The 350gr Hornady load is the exact same load as mine with the same velocity, recoil is fierce IMO. My Marlin is a XLR with 24 inch barrel, i get consistent 1.5 inch groups with 1-4x leupold scope. I also use gummie brass and just don't bother crimping, despite the nay Sayers I've never had a problem. Unfortunately these bullets appear to be to heavy in construction and don't give my enough expansion for the game I shoot compared to the gummies so will be moving back to 325-300gr
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Me thinks Fotis is gearing up for a Buffalo hunt in the Yellow Stone since they are going to cull the herd.
