.452 - Hornady 250gr XTP and 240gr XTP Mag (part 1)

bdbrown66

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So, I finally got around to doing a water jug test on these two bullets. I've used them for a few years in my .45 Colt Henry rifle for deer hunting, and have taken deer with both bullets. The loads are as follows:

250gr XTP - 23.0gr Accurate #9, WLP primer, Starline brass. This load gives 1762 fps from my Henry, per the Garmin.
240gr XTP Mag - 23.5gr Accurate #9, WLP primer, Starline brass. This load gives 1770 fps from my Henry, per the Garmin.

Both of these loads are very accurate in my rifle and will routinely shoot holes touching at 50 yards. More than good enough for deer hunting around here. The property that I hunt on is almost entirely hardwood ridges, hollows, and stream bottoms. Most shots are taken at about 50 yards, on average. Sometimes closer, but 100 yards would be a very long shot, given the terrain. Anything more than that is virtually unheard-of on this property, with only a couple places where you might take a shot out at 125 or so. I zero this rifle at 75 yards and have no concerns about keeping it in the vitals anywhere within these ranges.

The setup for the test was a series of water jugs, arranged within a wooden chute, at a distance of 50 yards. I know some guys do these tests at much closer distances, but my goal was to approximate the results that I might get on deer, under normal hunting conditions.

First up, the 250gr XTP. It shot thru the first 3 jugs, and pierced the 4th but did not enter. Bullet was found on the table between jugs 3 and 4.

Pictures of the jugs, in order from 1-4.

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The bullet expanded completely, .772" at its widest, and the jacket folded completely back on itself. There was almost no shank left, indicating that it was near its maximum recommended impact velocity.

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The bullet retained 202.8gr, or 81% of its original weight.

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Although I didn't film the test, it was apparent to me that the 250gr XTP, being the softer bullet of the two, dumped more energy upon initial impact. The first jug went airborne and flew off the test chute from this bullet, whereas the XTP Mag penetrated without creating as much initial shock.

To be continued in another post...

Brian
 

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Looks great! I always wondered what would happen to the 250gr XTP when pushed harder. Held up well though!
 
I've used the 240 gr XTP out of a 7.5" barreled 44 Mag revolver on deer & into the jugs close to 1400 fps muzzle velocity. They did great on both. It exited on a doe & dropped her. I don't remember how many jugs, but it was a picture perfect mushroom with very high weight retention. Looked close to the pics the OP posted but not quite as peeled back.
 
I've used the 240 gr XTP out of a 7.5" barreled 44 Mag revolver on deer & into the jugs close to 1400 fps muzzle velocity. They did great on both. It exited on a doe & dropped her. I don't remember how many jugs, but it was a picture perfect mushroom with very high weight retention. Looked close to the pics the OP posted but not quite as peeled back.
We found when they first came out on the market that they failed to expand well on deer at revolver velocities. Glad to see Hornady softened them up a bit so to speak.
 
We found when they first came out on the market that they failed to expand well on deer at revolver velocities. Glad to see Hornady softened them up a bit so to speak.
This chart gives a pretty good explanation of the working velocity ranges for the XTP's.

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I've used the 240 gr XTP out of a 7.5" barreled 44 Mag revolver on deer & into the jugs close to 1400 fps muzzle velocity. They did great on both. It exited on a doe & dropped her. I don't remember how many jugs, but it was a picture perfect mushroom with very high weight retention. Looked close to the pics the OP posted but not quite as peeled back.
I haven't taken any game with them yet, but did run a 240 XTP into the clear ballistics gel blocks from a 7.5" 44 mag Ruger revolver.

Muzzle velocity was 1389 fps.

This bullet expanded to .628” diameter, penetrated 25” in the Clear Ballistics Gel, and retained 228 grains, or 95% of its weight.

Hoping to get a shot at a bear or deer with them this season, but... I generally hunt "rifle" country so who knows if the revolver will get a chance this season?

Guy
 

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I haven't taken any game with them yet, but did run a 240 XTP into the clear ballistics gel blocks from a 7.5" 44 mag Ruger revolver.

Muzzle velocity was 1389 fps.

This bullet expanded to .628” diameter, penetrated 25” in the Clear Ballistics Gel, and retained 228 grains, or 95% of its weight.

Hoping to get a shot at a bear or deer with them this season, but... I generally hunt "rifle" country so who knows if the revolver will get a chance this season?

Guy
Thats how we hoped they would perform when they were introduced. Nice recovery. Back then you had to shoot them into concrete to get expansion. lol
 
Sweet gun Guy. I have the non Bisley version that had a little work done to it by SSK. Great guns!

So far I've really like the XTP's in my 44 Mag & 454 for deer. I have no doubt they'd smack a black bear pretty good too.
 
I hunt with the 240 grain in my 7.5" Super Blackhawk. They work great at the 44 mag velocities. But in my 44 carbine I use the speer gold dots soft points if I can get them.
 
I hunt with the 240 grain in my 7.5" Super Blackhawk. They work great at the 44 mag velocities. But in my 44 carbine I use the speer gold dots soft points if I can get them.
What's your reasoning for that? My buddy uses the 240 and 300 XTP's in his 44 mag Henry, and they have worked very well.
 
What's your reasoning for that? My buddy uses the 240 and 300 XTP's in his 44 mag Henry, and they have worked very well.
The 270gr Gold Dot/Deep Curl was designed for rifle loads. It has done really well on deer & hogs. I'm sure the 300gr XTP is great too.
 
The 270gr Gold Dot/Deep Curl was designed for rifle loads. It has done really well on deer & hogs. I'm sure the 300gr XTP is great too.
The 270gr Gold Dot/Deep Curl was designed for rifle loads. It has done really well on deer & hogs. I'm sure the 300gr XTP is great too.
The 270gr Gold Dot/Deep Curl was designed for rifle loads. It has done really well on deer & hogs. I'm sure the 300gr XTP is great too.
 
Years ago when we first bought a couple of Ruger 44 auto carbines I had some XTP's come apart. So I tried some 240 soft points, none came apart and they made a perfect mushroom. I like the deep curl the best.
No 240 XTP has ever failed me shot out of my Super Blackhawk.
 
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