6.5-06 issues?

wisconsinteacher

wisconsinteacher

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I am trying to get my 6.5-06 shooting and am struggling. I have tried 143 exld and 140 Hot Cors with IMR7828ssc and I can't get anything worth messing with. 2-4" groups. I have 90 rounds down this new PacNor 8 twist barrel but nothing to show for it. I plan on trying RL22 and H4831sc before I give up on these two bullets.

If they don't work, I'm thinking I need a lighter bullet. My goal for the rifle is to deer/antelope hunt with it. What bullet would you suggest I try next?
 
I should imagine that an eight twist should stabilize those bullets. What sort of jump are you allowing? That could make a difference. If any of your loads show a low standard deviation (less than 1%), then adjusting seating depth would potentially address the accuracy issue.
 
I think Berger's website has a calculator for weight of bullet and twist rate.

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I'd try some 140 gr. Accubonds and Partitions after you give these a whirl. Maybe some 120 gr. E-tips. Those things would be smoking out of that rifle!! I think H4831SC would be a good one as would IMR4350 or H4350 if you have some of that handy. Best of luck.
 
here is a powder chart for you to look at , maybe it'll help you choose another powder to try that you already have . IMR7828sc looks like something I'd have bet on working well . what powder charges have you tried ?




Cartridge : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet : .264, 140, Speer SP 1441
Useable Case Capaci: 63.146 grain H2O = 4.100 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 65000 psi, or 448 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

21 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 96.5 60.4 3.91 3094 100.0 65000 13614 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 102.3 63.6 4.12 3092 99.9 65000 14063 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 102.1 63.5 4.11 3091 99.9 65000 14032 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 99.6 59.2 3.84 3090 99.4 65000 14364 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 99.8 61.8 4.00 3084 98.7 65000 14518 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 97.7 59.3 3.84 3084 100.0 65000 13803 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 104.0 58.8 3.81 3081 99.7 65000 13898 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 98.4 58.8 3.81 3081 99.7 65000 13898 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 94.9 58.9 3.81 3079 100.0 65000 13392 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 99.5 58.6 3.80 3069 99.6 65000 13795 1.144 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 103.4 62.5 4.05 3069 99.8 65000 13601 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 60.8 3.94 3069 100.0 63950 13253 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 99.9 58.8 3.81 3062 100.0 65000 13708 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 99.9 58.8 3.81 3062 100.0 65000 13708 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 99.9 58.8 3.81 3062 100.0 65000 13708 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 102.5 59.0 3.83 3061 99.9 65000 13735 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 102.5 59.0 3.83 3061 99.9 65000 13735 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 103.3 61.3 3.97 3041 98.5 65000 13732 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 99.5 63.1 4.09 3041 100.0 65000 13052 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 101.2 58.5 3.79 3036 99.4 65000 13504 1.161 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 64.4 4.18 3033 95.9 57054 15453 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 96.5 55.9 3.62 3025 99.9 65000 13044 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 97.0 56.5 3.66 3023 99.9 65000 13107 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 97.8 56.9 3.69 3016 99.9 65000 13017 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 93.4 56.1 3.64 3012 100.0 65000 12667 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30 105.0 61.1 3.96 3011 99.5 59394 14126 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 61.1 3.96 3011 99.5 59394 14126 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 102.1 58.1 3.77 3010 100.0 65000 12294 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 92.6 55.7 3.61 3007 100.0 65000 12556 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 98.3 57.9 3.75 3005 99.2 65000 13063 1.154 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 102.3 57.9 3.75 3005 99.2 65000 13063 1.154 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 95.2 55.4 3.59 3002 99.9 65000 12805 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 92.2 55.4 3.59 3002 99.9 65000 12805 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 95.2 55.4 3.59 3002 99.9 65000 12805 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 91.0 55.5 3.60 3000 100.0 65000 12306 1.179 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 93.9 53.3 3.45 2996 100.0 65000 12056 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 97.2 57.2 3.70 2982 100.0 65000 12458 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 92.2 53.1 3.44 2981 100.0 65000 12031 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 92.2 53.1 3.44 2980 100.0 65000 12028 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 96.2 55.2 3.58 2978 99.6 65000 12573 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 95.8 58.8 3.81 2977 99.9 65000 12475 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 91.2 53.1 3.44 2974 100.0 65000 11974 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 93.7 54.3 3.52 2973 100.0 65000 11662 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 92.9 54.9 3.56 2973 100.0 65000 12237 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron 99.8 56.5 3.66 2973 99.3 65000 12671 1.155 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 102.3 58.9 3.82 2969 100.0 65000 12205 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 100.0 58.2 3.77 2962 100.0 65000 12034 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 96.7 53.9 3.49 2962 100.0 65000 11771 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 102.6 57.3 3.71 2961 99.5 65000 12349 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 92.3 53.1 3.44 2958 100.0 65000 12021 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 66.3 4.30 2953 95.2 53229 15013 1.265
ADI AR 2217 105.0 60.5 3.92 2951 99.2 57202 13302 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 60.5 3.92 2951 99.2 57202 13302 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 95.2 59.0 3.82 2949 99.2 65000 12371 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 90.5 51.7 3.35 2945 100.0 65000 11907 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 90.5 51.7 3.35 2945 100.0 65000 11907 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071 105.0 57.8 3.75 2943 100.0 63500 11999 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 91.4 52.0 3.37 2932 100.0 65000 11563 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 94.6 53.3 3.45 2932 100.0 65000 11120 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7977 Enduron 104.2 60.0 3.89 2923 94.0 65000 12445 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 66.3 4.30 2908 95.2 50546 14824 1.292
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 61.5 3.98 2904 99.9 50658 13692 1.286
ADI AR 2225 105.0 61.5 3.98 2904 99.9 50658 13692 1.286
ADI AR 2218 105.0 65.1 4.22 2891 93.3 49899 15109 1.285
Lovex D100 105.0 65.8 4.26 2858 90.8 57632 12850 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 65.1 4.22 2838 88.2 52622 13443 1.265
Norma 217 105.0 60.2 3.90 2819 99.0 45618 13863 1.371
Hodgdon H870 105.0 63.1 4.09 2797 94.4 45432 14116 1.366
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 60.5 3.92 2794 93.0 52412 12748 1.299
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 66.1 4.28 2763 91.2 43646 14465 1.415
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 64.6 4.19 2701 83.0 45429 13407 1.416
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 65.1 4.22 2648 84.3 43126 12553 1.402
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 62.1 4.02 2646 80.0 43275 12531 1.396
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 62.5 4.05 2595 88.6 39805 12320 1.463
Accurate 8700 105.0 63.8 4.13 2574 87.7 38790 12295 1.466
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 65.8 4.26 2551 84.4 37684 12371 1.499
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 62.5 4.05 2531 85.6 37332 11988 1.509
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 59.8 3.87 2331 61.2 34048 9504 1.556
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 59.8 3.87 2307 65.8 32127 9943 1.599
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 59.8 3.87 1656 30.3 17657 4681 2.073
 
My best load was 55.5 grains of IMR7828. It shot 1.125" with two touching and one out at .010" off the lands. From there, I tried seating some deeper. .020/.035/.050" off the lands and they shot 1.75-2.5" groups. Speeds were 3065 fps with 55.5 grains.
 
IMR 7828 would not me my first choice of powders. Considering the situation that you are describing, I would encourage you to try a 140gr bt with either H4350 or IMR 4350.
Keith
 
Wis65x55":34ylvk69 said:
IMR 7828 would not me my first choice of powders. Considering the situation that you are describing, I would encourage you to try a 140gr bt with either H4350 or IMR 4350.
Keith
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Good advice, that.
 
I just reread your first post . has this gun shot anything good yet ? do you have a gun problem ? are the action screws tight ? is the bbl touching in the stock ? does the magazine box float , or is it pinched tight when the gun is all put together ? is the scope tight ? is the scope good ?
 
I just reread your first post . has this gun shot anything good yet ? do you have a gun problem ? are the action screws tight ? is the bbl touching in the stock ? does the magazine box float , or is it pinched tight when the gun is all put together ? is the scope tight ? is the scope good ?
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I agree with this.
Second, I think you're too fast for the node.
Here's a method I just started using that seems to be working. It'll find your nodes quickly with very few rounds down the tube. You'll need to shoot 10 or so differing rounds, each one chrono'd.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACyfeeBHVOA
 
I might try taking the best load and trying some different primers. I have been playing R-26 in several rifles and would give that a try. Also with several 6.5 rifles, a 6.5x55 and 2 264's I have had good results with 140 Sierra GameKings.
 
I just went and checked the barrel for free float and action screws. The screws are set to Ruger spec and the barrel is floating.

The scope is tight as well.

??? I plan on trying RL22 this weekend with the 140 hot cors.
 
There is nothing wrong with the bullets you're using to test your new rifle. Try a different powder but only change one variable at time. Compare Nosler's published load data and other powders that you may have on hand and go from there.
 
My 6.5-06 likes a stiff load of H4831 and 140gr AB or Amax. 1/8 twist. My 260 and 6.5x284 also like this powder bullet combo.
 
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