7mm Rem Mag - 150 gr TTSX or E=Tip

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Jimbeaux82

Handloader
Jan 6, 2011
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I recently purchased a used Rem 700 min 7mm Rem Mag. Someone had gone to great pains and done some excellent work customizing this rifle to be a very light weight "Mountain Rifle" type, I surmise. It has a pencil thin, 22 in barrel, very lightweight synthetic stock, Control mounts and excellent Canjar trigger. All together, scope, rifle and sling weigh in at 7.5 lbs. While I know 22" is not optimum for a 7 Mag, I decided to try a few handloads and see how it shot. using 150 NBT's and Nosler's recommended load of VVN-160, I got a 3 shot group hovering at .8 inches and 2900 fps. I would like to work up an elk load for this rifle for a possible elk hunt next Oct. I would like to substitute either 150 gr TTSX or 150 gr Nosler E-tips, which I have in my stocks. Do you think I can work up a load that will achieve the same velocity (2900 FPS) with either of these bullets, given the difference in construction? I can always buy some 150 gr Accubonds and pretty much sub for the NBT's but think the monolithics might be better for elk.

Any comments or suggestions? Any preference between TTSX or E-tips, other than individual rifle preference?
 
QL projection indicates that the E-Tip will give you excellent velocity.

Code: 
Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler E-Tip  59426
Useable Case Capaci: 72.057 grain H2O = 4.679 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Ramshot Magnum

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    58.00   2320    1793   28314  10975     87.8    1.552
-18.0   82    59.45   2388    1899   30423  11390     89.5    1.509
-16.0   84    60.90   2456    2009   32709  11791     91.1    1.466
-14.0   86    62.35   2525    2123   35187  12175     92.7    1.424
-12.0   88    63.80   2594    2241   37879  12538     94.1    1.379
-10.0   90    65.25   2664    2364   40809  12877     95.3    1.329
-08.0   92    66.70   2735    2491   43997  13190     96.5    1.282
-06.0   94    68.15   2805    2621   47476  13474     97.4    1.236
-04.0   96    69.60   2876    2755   51278  13726     98.3    1.192
-02.0   98    71.05   2947    2893   55441  13943     98.9    1.150  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    72.50   3018    3035   60010  14122     99.5    1.108  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    73.95   3090    3179   65034  14261     99.8    1.068  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    75.40   3160    3327   70570  14358    100.0    1.030  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    76.85   3231    3477   76681  14416    100.0    0.993  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    78.30   3302    3631   83400  14461    100.0    0.957  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    79.75   3372    3787   90833  14497    100.0    0.922  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    72.50   3176    3359   75052  13561    100.0    1.012  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    72.50   2792    2597   47125  13797     93.5    1.233

Code: 
Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler E-Tip  59426
Useable Case Capaci: 72.057 grain H2O = 4.679 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

21 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570                    109.3     76.6     4.96    3110    94.3    60000   16666   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  97.3     69.4     4.50    3081   100.0    60000   14806   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 106.1     70.1     4.54    3066   100.0    60000   14415   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        108.3     72.0     4.66    3061    98.5    60000   15318   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        108.3     72.0     4.66    3061    98.5    60000   15318   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           98.2     68.0     4.41    3059    99.7    60000   14928   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                102.9     73.0     4.73    3059    98.5    60000   15050   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  102.8     72.9     4.72    3058    98.6    60000   15026   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   95.3     67.4     4.37    3056    99.9    60000   14510   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     79.3     5.14    3055    94.1    57680   16275   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     99.9     67.8     4.39    3053    97.6    60000   15221   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           104.4     67.4     4.37    3047    98.1    60000   14798   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        98.8     67.4     4.37    3047    98.1    60000   14798   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    100.2     70.8     4.59    3043    96.3    60000   15289   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         99.8     67.0     4.34    3034    98.0    60000   14635   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       100.2     67.3     4.36    3031    99.0    60000   14674   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       100.2     67.3     4.36    3031    99.0    60000   14674   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 100.2     67.3     4.36    3031    99.0    60000   14674   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        102.9     67.6     4.38    3030    98.9    60000   14686   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     102.9     67.6     4.38    3030    98.9    60000   14686   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        103.7     71.5     4.63    3030    98.3    60000   14506   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      109.0     71.6     4.64    3027    98.2    60000   14463   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        109.0     71.6     4.64    3027    98.2    60000   14463   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     100.2     72.5     4.70    3018    99.5    60000   14121   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     79.3     5.14    3007    94.0    54915   16063   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 102.5     66.6     4.32    3002   100.0    60000   13308   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      101.4     66.9     4.33    3001    97.6    60000   14306   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     73.5     4.76    3000    99.6    54259   15068   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     73.5     4.76    3000    99.6    54259   15068   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       103.4     70.0     4.54    2998    96.0    60000   14376   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         96.6     63.8     4.14    2996    98.8    60000   13913   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  97.1     64.5     4.18    2992    98.9    60000   13973   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     77.8     5.04    2988    91.8    54589   16311   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          97.8     64.9     4.21    2985    98.9    60000   13876   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      92.7     63.6     4.12    2985    99.9    60000   13556   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   91.2     63.5     4.11    2984   100.0    60000   13336   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           92.2     63.2     4.10    2971    98.7    60000   13630   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           95.2     63.2     4.10    2971    98.7    60000   13630   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         95.2     63.2     4.10    2971    98.7    60000   13630   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        94.0     62.1     4.03    2970   100.0    60000   12617   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    98.4     66.1     4.28    2969    97.3    60000   13780   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      102.4     66.1     4.28    2969    97.3    60000   13780   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           92.2     60.6     3.93    2965   100.0    60000   12988   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          92.2     60.6     3.93    2965   100.0    60000   12984   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       91.4     60.7     3.93    2960   100.0    60000   12979   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        97.3     65.3     4.23    2956    99.4    60000   13396   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              95.9     67.2     4.35    2948    98.8    60000   13308   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        92.8     62.6     4.06    2948    99.6    60000   13157   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            96.7     61.5     3.99    2947   100.0    60000   12724   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       96.0     62.9     4.07    2945    98.0    60000   13303   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    102.5     67.3     4.36    2943    99.2    60000   13103   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      100.3     66.6     4.32    2942    99.9    60000   13056   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         106.1     66.6     4.32    2942    99.9    60000   13056   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     77.8     5.04    2940    86.9    57622   14501   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          92.1     60.5     3.92    2933    99.7    60000   12931   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    102.5     65.3     4.23    2928    97.9    60000   13070   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 94.7     60.8     3.94    2926   100.0    60000   12018   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         108.6     77.6     5.03    2918    88.7    60000   13667   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       90.1     58.8     3.81    2917    99.4    60000   12737   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          90.1     58.8     3.81    2917    99.4    60000   12737   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        95.1     67.3     4.36    2913    97.3    60000   13035   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          91.1     59.2     3.83    2912   100.0    60000   12450   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     72.0     4.66    2902    98.1    48230   15170   1.234
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     72.3     4.68    2888    91.7    56367   13816   1.161  ! Near Maximum !

As an aside, the 150 grain AB will work just fine for elk. I've used the 150 grain ABLR on elk from my 280, and I can assure you that the elk didn't like it at all. The bullet gave complete penetration and resulted in a DRT elk.

Code: 
Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 73.277 grain H2O = 4.758 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Ramshot Magnum

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    58.64   2327    1803   28415  11133     88.1    1.552
-18.0   82    60.11   2394    1909   30528  11552     89.8    1.509
-16.0   84    61.58   2462    2019   32816  11956     91.4    1.466
-14.0   86    63.04   2531    2134   35297  12342     92.9    1.424
-12.0   88    64.51   2601    2252   37988  12707     94.3    1.379
-10.0   90    65.97   2670    2375   40917  13049     95.5    1.330
-08.0   92    67.44   2741    2502   44103  13363     96.6    1.283
-06.0   94    68.91   2811    2632   47579  13648     97.6    1.237
-04.0   96    70.37   2882    2766   51372  13900     98.4    1.193
-02.0   98    71.84   2953    2904   55523  14117     99.0    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    73.30   3023    3045   60074  14296     99.5    1.110  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    74.77   3094    3189   65076  14435     99.8    1.070  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    76.24   3165    3336   70580  14532    100.0    1.031  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106    77.70   3235    3486   76610  14592    100.0    0.994  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108    79.17   3305    3638   83245  14641    100.0    0.959  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110    80.63   3375    3794   90571  14682    100.0    0.924  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    73.30   3180    3368   75027  13728    100.0    1.014  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    73.30   2799    2609   47134  13988     93.7    1.235

Code: 
Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 73.277 grain H2O = 4.758 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

23 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570                    108.7     77.4     5.01    3115    94.5    60000   16888   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     80.6     5.22    3085    94.7    59146   16608   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  96.6     70.1     4.55    3083   100.0    60000   14967   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 105.4     70.8     4.59    3070   100.0    60000   14577   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        107.6     72.7     4.71    3064    98.6    60000   15503   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        107.6     72.7     4.71    3064    98.6    60000   15503   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                102.3     73.8     4.78    3064    98.6    60000   15241   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  102.2     73.7     4.77    3063    98.7    60000   15216   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           97.5     68.7     4.45    3062    99.7    60000   15099   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   94.7     68.1     4.42    3060    99.9    60000   14678   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     99.3     68.5     4.44    3058    97.7    60000   15411   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           103.8     68.1     4.41    3052    98.2    60000   14988   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        98.2     68.1     4.41    3052    98.2    60000   14988   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     99.6     71.5     4.64    3047    96.4    60000   15486   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         99.2     67.7     4.39    3039    98.1    60000   14824   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     80.6     5.22    3039    94.6    56298   16395   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        103.1     72.3     4.69    3036    98.4    60000   14697   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        99.6     68.0     4.40    3036    99.1    60000   14851   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  99.6     68.0     4.40    3036    99.1    60000   14851   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        99.6     68.0     4.40    3036    99.1    60000   14851   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     102.2     68.3     4.43    3034    99.0    60000   14863   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        102.2     68.3     4.43    3034    99.0    60000   14863   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      108.4     72.5     4.70    3034    98.4    60000   14655   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        108.4     72.5     4.70    3034    98.4    60000   14655   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     74.7     4.84    3026    99.8    55483   15292   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     74.7     4.84    3026    99.8    55483   15292   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      99.6     73.3     4.75    3022    99.5    60000   14294   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     79.2     5.13    3020    92.5    55791   16684   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      100.8     67.6     4.38    3006    97.7    60000   14491   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 101.9     67.3     4.36    3005   100.0    60000   13458   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       102.8     70.8     4.59    3004    96.2    60000   14570   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         96.0     64.5     4.18    3001    98.9    60000   14087   1.103  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  96.5     65.2     4.22    2997    99.0    60000   14147   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          97.2     65.7     4.26    2990    98.9    60000   14049   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      92.1     64.3     4.16    2989    99.9    60000   13714   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   90.6     64.2     4.16    2988   100.0    60000   13489   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         94.6     63.9     4.14    2976    98.8    60000   13803   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           91.6     63.9     4.14    2976    98.8    60000   13803   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           94.6     63.9     4.14    2976    98.8    60000   13803   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    97.8     66.8     4.33    2975    97.4    60000   13962   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      101.8     66.8     4.33    2975    97.4    60000   13962   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        93.4     62.8     4.07    2973   100.0    60000   12762   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           91.6     61.2     3.97    2969   100.0    60000   13137   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          91.7     61.2     3.97    2969   100.0    60000   13134   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     79.2     5.13    2969    87.5    58842   14837   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       90.8     61.4     3.98    2964   100.0    60000   13129   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        96.7     66.0     4.28    2960    99.5    60000   13560   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              95.4     67.9     4.40    2953    98.9    60000   13478   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        92.3     63.3     4.10    2953    99.6    60000   13318   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            96.2     62.2     4.03    2951   100.0    60000   12873   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       95.5     63.6     4.12    2950    98.1    60000   13479   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    101.9     68.1     4.41    2948    99.3    60000   13268   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       99.7     67.4     4.36    2946    99.9    60000   13210   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         105.4     67.4     4.36    2946    99.9    60000   13210   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          91.5     61.2     3.96    2938    99.8    60000   13090   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    101.9     66.0     4.28    2934    98.0    60000   13242   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     73.2     4.74    2930    98.5    49491   15434   1.221
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 94.1     61.5     3.98    2930   100.0    60000   12162   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         108.0     78.5     5.09    2924    88.9    60000   13872   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        94.6     68.0     4.41    2919    97.4    60000   13210   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          90.6     59.8     3.88    2917   100.0    60000   12600   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     73.5     4.76    2914    92.2    57537   14106   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
 
So, Dr Mike, if I'm reading that properly, about 3,000 fps for a good 150 gr bullet from the 7mm mag with a 22" barrel?

Guy
 
That's the projection, Guy. It is pretty much in line with what the Nosler and the Barnes manuals project for 150 grain E-Tip and TSX, adjusting for 24" barrels. I do note that some of those loads are tightly compressed, which may be a non-starter for some.
 
Not that those two wouldn't work excellent, my partner used the 150 Swift Scirocco this fall at 2950. Two elk, one at 475 and the other at 150'ish. Recovered Bullets looked the same and killed VERY well.

Since you have a great BT load I'd try a 150 Partition. Chances are it may shoot the same and I'd be less worried about that bullet opening up further down range than a mono.
 
I like Nosler bullets but not the S-tip. Too much like the old Barnes X-Bullet.

The TTSX is my choice and if you follow a few(4) simple rules you will get great accuracy and terminal performance.
 
SJB358":141ivosr said:
Since you have a great BT load I'd try a 150 Partition. Chances are it may shoot the same and I'd be less worried about that bullet opening up further down range than a mono.
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Excellent advice! I'd tend to lean that way if possible.
 
Dad uses the 150 TTSX in his 7mm Weatherby at 3060 fps, 26 inch barrel. It's not a max load at all, but it's accurate and deadly. There is probably another node another 3% higher and closer to 3200 fps, but I decided that we will go with what we've got since it's working.
 
Not a doggone thing wrong with a good 7mm 150'ish grain bullet at roughly 3,000 fps. (y)
 
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