8mm Rem Mag & Range Report - part two

[bullet]

Well, I have already traded some and I only have 43 of them left, do you still want the 43?

 

[OU812]

Mike I will swap you the PT's for the AB for my boy's 325 wsm

Fotis if Mike don't have any AB left i have darn near a full box of the 200's and I'll trade ya. But talk to Mike first.

Bill

 

[Chris338378]

I haven't gotten to read all your posts regarding all your tests but have you tried the 180 grain Ballistic Tips? If you have what is the accuracy of them compared to the 200 grain Accubonds?

 

[FOTIS]

Mike I will swap you the PT's for the AB for my boy's 325 wsm

Fotis if Mike don't have any AB left i have darn near a full box of the 200's and I'll trade ya. But talk to Mike first.

Bill

Sorry Bill shipped them to Mike today

 

[bullet]

I haven't gotten to read all your posts regarding all your tests but have you tried the 180 grain Ballistic Tips? If you have what is the accuracy of them compared to the 200 grain Accubonds?

I won't even consider the 180gr Ballistic Tip in the 8mm Rem Mag. Velocities are to great and no way will the ballistic hold up, it will be a gernade going off in a shallow puddle, lot splash and not much penetration. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. :mrgreen:

 

[Chris338378]

I've loaded 200 grain Ballistic Tips in a .338-378 Weatherby Magnum and they weren't bad. On deer out to 150 yards you have to hit them in the neck or you end up with big holes, past 150 yards they don't make big holes compared to the .338 Winchester Magnum or even the .340 Weatherby Magnum.

 

[bullet]

Thanks, but I will pass on the 180gr BT moving 3271fps. I have other better choices and don't feel like spending time for the load work to prefect the load, money to get it done and throat life much less possible disappointed in the field to prove it might work well.

 

[FOTIS]

I'd do it with this one

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/216050 ... -box-of-50

 

[Guy Miner]

Chris 338378 - welcome aboard!

There's quite a few heavy-for-caliber bullet fans on this forum, so you may have to show us what you've done with lighter bullets.

BTW - there's some good bullet tests recorded in our Bullet Test section. Many members here have tested different bullets from tiny to huge, and recorded the results there. Not a lot in the 8mm section yet, but it's growing.

Here's a link: viewforum.php?f=51

Regards, Guy

 

[bullet]

I'd do it with this one

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/216050 ... -box-of-50

Yes, it is on the list to be tried. :mrgreen:

 

[OU812]

I'd do it with this one

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/216050 ... -box-of-50

Yes, it is on the list to be tried. :mrgreen:

Don't do it Mike. if you do you'll only be disappointed with the accuracy of the other loads.

 

[OU812]

I'm with bullet when it comes to the 180 ballistic tips. Give me a 200 or 220 in the 8mm all day long.

Bill

 

[Chris338378]

The reason for my question is I saw on Midwayusa that Nosler is loading 180 grain Ballistic Tips in the 8mm Remington Magnum. I have to think that Nosler did their homework to make sure they will work and if they didn't they wouldn't be loading them. Now I'm not saying heavier bullets wouldn't work better but I don't automaticly rule out a lighter bullet. I base my bullet choice on two factors, accuracy and what I'm intending to use it for. As for the .338-378 Weatherby Magnum, when it first came out Weatherby sold factory ammunition with 200 grain Ballistic Tips and continued to do so until Nosler stopped making them. I bought some when I first got my Accumark and they shot every well so when I started loading for it I stuck with the Ballistic Tips. When Nosler stopped making them I switched to the Combined Technologies Ballistic Silver Tips. They continue to shoot very well out of my rifle and work for me. Also I am fully aware that Nosler says Ballistic Tips should have a maximum velocity of 3000 FPS.

I'm not looking to stir the pot or start any arguments, just saying my thought process and experiences. Some may agree and some may disagree. I have never tested bullets to the degree that Bullet is and I find it very interesting. I am open minded and just like everyone else I learn something new every day. I have to also have to say that I've never shot or reloaded for the big 8, since I just bought mine but will be as soon as I get a set of dies and some brass, which is my biggest problem at this point. I look forward to reading about everyone's experiences and posting mine so we could compare notes.

 

[bullet]

I look forward to reading about everyone's experiences and posting mine so we could compare notes.

Yes, now we are talking. Can't wait for you to get your reloading stuff and we can compare notes since I know you will be trying the 180g. I don't doubt it will do very well accuracy wise and in some cases in the field. Looking forward to your experiences with the 8mm Rem Mag. Cool indeed :mrgreen:

 

[DrMike]

Chris,

No serious controversy in your query. I know a number of people who shoot the 180 grain BT in the 300 WBY. It is not the bullet I would choose, but it seems to work well. One gentleman, in particular, routinely takes elk with that load, in addition to quite a number of deer (both mule deer and whitetail). I have no doubt that the 180 grain BT in Remington's Big Eight will work to take game; it is a robust bullet with a somewhat thicker jacket that its .308 sibling. Having said that, because of the possibility of a difficult shot or a closer than expected shot, I would opt for a more robust bullet--the 180 grain E-Tip, the 200 grain AB or the 200 grain PT. I shoot the 200 grain PT from my 325WSM, and it works very well on moose and elk, to say nothing of black bear and mule deer.

 

[Chris338378]

I must admit that I'm one of the guys who loads the Ballistic Tips in the .300 Weatherby Magnum. It's a very accurate load, doesn't do excessive damage, and never lost any thing I've ever shot with it. Actually I load Ballistic Tips for my .300 Winchester Magnum (180 grain), .300 Weatherby Magnum (180 grain), .340 Weatherby Magnum (200 grain Combined Technologies Ballistic Silver Tips), and my beloved .338-378 Weatherby Magnum (200 grain Combined Technologies Ballistic Silver Tips). I have to say each of these loads shoot every well in my rifles. The one thing that I like about shooting and loading the Ballistic Tips in my .300 Winchester and Weatheryby Magnums is they shoot the same size groups and have a very similar point of impact (at most 1/2 an inch). Don't get me wrong I like the Partitons and load them for my .338 Winchester Magnum (210 grain) and 7mm Remington Magnum.

I haven't decided if I'm going to try the 180 grain Ballistic Tips but as I said I'm not ruling them out. My biggest problem at this point is to get brass to load. I know Midwayusa has Nosler brass but I'd rather get some Remington since I can get more for my money. I have a set of RCBS dies on back order from Midwayusa also and they are saying they should be in by August 10th so I'm stuck here reading instead of loading. LOL Thank you to everyone for their understanding and patients. In closing let me ask this, what is everyone's experiences with the 200 grain Accubonds in the big 8?

 

[bullet]

. In closing let me ask this, what is everyone's experiences with the 200 grain Accubonds in the big 8?

If you will go back and read this thread you will find some info on the 200gr AccuBond in toughness, accuracy from different peoples experience. For even more info on the 200gr AccuBond go the first tread on 8mm range report.

 

[dchamp]

Man, walk away for a couple of days and look at all the traffic :mrgreen: I think as soon as you confirm your testing and I get a chance, I'll try your load Bullet and see how well my gun likes it, maybe I could make it my out of state load. But as for me and thanks to my high minded progressively infused state government with their overly repressive laws and regulations I'm saddled to Barnes type bullets. Therefore I shoot 200gr tsx's in my 8 mag, but someone mentioned light weight bullets and :idea: I immediately thought of the Barnes 160gr ttsx of which I am now using in my 8X57 with good results. My son used it in Namibia this summer and took Mtn. Zebra, Blue Wildebeest, Hartebeest, Gemsbok, Warthog & Impala. After I try Bullets/ Sierra load I think I'll try to develop a load with the 160gr ttsx in the 8mm RM. Quick Load suggest I should reach 3300fps+ with about 78.5grs of RL-17. With a BC of .4 it should be flatter and have more energy than any of the 180s that I've looked at and recoil will be less. Bullett I am sympathetic to your dislike of Barnes Bullets. I hate having the government telling me what bullet I can & cannot use. Also, I use to have a 280 and after two shots the inside of the barrel looked like a barber shop pole but the rifles I'm using now don't mind them and they did work well in Africa.

 

[bullet]

Yes, I will be taking a couple of weeks off from all of this. I got a few things left to do in load work before I try and Barnes TTSX or TSX. I do not want to leave a rock un-turned which is my nature so the Barnes TSX will get a fair shake at the range. :mrgreen:

 

[JD338]

Mike,
I bet those 250 gr bullets will do 7 jugs. More than enough for anything you would hunt with the Big 8.

JD338