Acquired a rem 700 bdl in .270 win

[remingtonman_25_06]

I went to the local sports shop and was looking around to see what I could trade for my .220 swift. I was just basically looking for something bigger so that I could shoot farther then about 600 yards, then I currently am with my swift. The guy gave me $450 trade for my swift, so that left me with little choices actually. Well, I saw a .270 that was a Remington BDL, wood stock, blued 22" barrel with sights. Looks like it was probly made in the early 90's or so. Overall condition of the rifle is not to horribly bad, but it has probly went through some good hunts. The blueing is hardly worn, but the wood stock has a couple little chunks out of it, and a lot of scratches, but other then that, the rifle looks alright. It probly wasn't shot a whole lot, the rifling and barrel looks ok, from my eye anyways. Nothign a good scrubbing with sweets wont take care of. The trigger seems to be around 4lbs or so. Anyways, I figure I have a decent caliber for LR deer/yotes, get me a lot farther then that swift anyways. I just hope it shoots halfway decent. I asked him if I worked up loads for it, if I could return it and trade back if it didn't shoot worth a hoot, and he laughed and said no, the only thing we guaruntee is for it go bang. But being an older Remington, I bet it should shoot at least 3/4" at 100 yards, I'm hoping for around 5 inch groups at 500 yards with either a 130g or 140g btips. I dont know if I"ll have much time to shoot or work up loads in 3 weeks, but I'll try. I have dies, brass, and bullets for a .270, I reload for my cousins, so I might be able to bum some brass off him. IF it doesn't shoot that well, at least I got a Remington action to work with instead of a Ruger, I figure thats a lot better. I woudl eventually like to make it a 6.5-06 AI. Thats the plan in the future anyways.

 

[JD338]

Rem Man,

Congratulations on your new toy. Every M700 I have owned has shot under 1 MOA easy with the right handloads. Look at RL22, IMR4831, and H4831SC powders with 130 gr -150 gr BT's and Federal GM210M primers.
Take the trigger down to 2-2.5 lb pull. Should be a shooter.

With the M700 action, you have a lot of options for a custom rig. The 6.5-06 AI would be a fine choice but don't overlook the 280AI.

Have fun!

JD338

 

[Accubond Believer]

Rem - man

Nice trade. The wife uses her .270 for everything from badgers to elk. Looks aren't everything as long as it shoots. It fits perfectly between your 25-06 and the .300 RUM. 140 gr pills (partitions) is what the wife is using currently. She will be switching to the accubonds after she uses up the remaining partitions in the house. JDJ is right about the 4831 powder - it is sweet for the .270. Current load for the wife shoots about an inch at 200 yards with a speed around 2850 fps. I know you will work up your own receipe - have fun and enjoy. What MOS did you get in the Army??


Steve D. the HP

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Looking at the nosler manual, I tend to look at the powders with higher muzzle velocity with the star at the top, for accuracy. I have found nosler is pretty right on with that. IMR-4350 and RL-22 seem to get high velocities with accuracy, so I'll probly start there. 4831 seems to give high velocities, but the stars at the bottom. I know how to work on remington triggers, but this ones at about 4lbs, so I dont really think I"m going to mess with it right now. Maybe one day, but for now, I can deal with it. I mounted a 6-18 vx2 target on it last night, cleaned it all up. It actually doesn't look like to bad of a rifle. I also scrubbed and cleaned the barrel with sweets and a nylon brush. It was prety dirty at first, little copper fouling, but the sweets and brush took care of it pretty quickly. I am going to load up some 130g btips and 130g sgk's today and see how they shoot. My MOS is a 93F. Basically I'm a glorified gas pumper, haha. I've already pumped gas in my homestate of oregon, because in oregon you cannon pump your own gas. everyone is giving me crap becaseu I got out of pumping gas, now im going to be back in it. Also I'll have to drive a big rig full of it, so I hope I dont get a rocket launcher coming my way, or i'll be toasted! how many grains of 4831 are you using to get 2850fps? i would suffice for 2850 with 1 inch groups at 200 yards, if it was with a 140g btip. WIll be good for 600-700 yard muleys and coyotes, and wont get drifted near as much in the wind as teh swift.

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Here is a pic of my rifle. It has a leupold vx2 6-18 target on it. Also has leupold 1 piece base and rings. I tried 2 bulelts today. 1 was a 130g btip, other was 140g gameking. I used imr 4350 powder, and cci br2 primers, with an OAL of 3.340" Testing was done at 100 yards. I used 54g and 55g with the 130's, and 52g and 53g with the 140's. 54g with the 130g btip shot .749" and its the top group. 52g and the 140g gameking shot .693" and the bottom group. Wished the 3rd woulda been with the first 2, then it woulda been about a .25-.3" group. The wind was blowing 10-15 mph today as well. I was happy though for thrwoing some loads together along with the wind. Usually I dont test loads out when its windy, but I wanted to see how it shot anyways. I'll load up the good load of 130g and 140g and shoot them at 300 to see how the compare. I would rather shoot a 140g as its better long range bullet.

 

[JD338]

Rem Man,

Looks like you are well on your way to having a shooter.

JD338

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

I need to work on the trigger. I know I can do it myself as I have worked on a couple other Remingtons, but I hate, and I mean absolutely hate putting them back together. I have the hardest time putting the magazine box and floorplate together with the stock. It literally takes me like 2 hours. I dont know if I'm doing something wrong or what, but I took it apart the other night to thoroughly clean it, and it took me forever to get it back together. Theres gotta be a trick to it or something. The trigger is about 4lbs, not to heavy, but not to light either. All my guns are either at 2 or 2.5. I also need to glass bed and float the barrel. Should be a 1 holer then, but I am completely satisfied with the groups I'm getting. I wanted 3/4" or better, and out of the 4 loads I tried, 2 already got that. With minimal development. I dont think .5" is going to be out of the question. I should have cronied the loads, but I got out to the range late, and my crony does not work past about 2 pm. Not enough light. I am worried that with my 22" barrel, I wont get the velocities I want, but if the accuracy is .5" I could live with 2950fps with 130's, and 2850fps with 140's. What are some of you getting velocity wise with your 22" barrels?

 

[JD338]

Rem Man,

It shouldn't take you more than 30 min to do the trigger from start to finish. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Take a look at the attached link.
http://www.quarterbore.com/library/arti ... igger.html

I don't own a chronograph and never owned a 270 so I can't comment on 22" velocities. I would think your guess is pretty close.
Glad to hear that she is a shooter.

Regards,

JD338

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

I gotta question. I cant seem to back out the engagement screw. I got the over travel and spring tension to come loose. My question is this, when I leave the over travel alone, the way it came, and I back out the spring tension a couple turns, my trigger is pretty light. Can this be a substitute for doing all the other things. Or do I really need to play with the engagement and over travel? Once again, I cant break the engagement screw loose, but I was just experimenting and when I turned the spring tension screw out a little, I noticed my trigger pull was reduced dramatically. Was wondering if this would be OK.

 

[JD338]

I'm not sure about that. You have to make sure the engagement screw is adjusted properly.
The factory uses some type of locktite or laquer sealer. I have always been able to peel it off. If that is the problem and you can get it cleaned up, try a blow dryer on it, just might soften it up enougn to break the screw loose.

JD338

 

[Accubond Believer]

Rem 25-06 -

The velocities I mentioned were from the a 22" barrel. I went to a remington armorers course last spring. We got some details for trigger adjustment. I will dig them out if you are interested. The loctite on the three screws on the trigger is a special color only for remington - it voids the warranty and the liability is on you if you adjust them. But you already knew that.

Glad to hear that your load development is going well and quickly.

Steve D. the HP

 

[FOTIS]

OK:

Place the barrelled action in the rest trigger facing up. Unscrew TOP screw (which in escence is bottom screw as you're firing the rifle). Try the trigger and when you reach 3 lbs or so put some elmer's glue on the screws and call it a day.