Bedding an action

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Rol_P

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I am interested in bedding the action of my Remington 700 CDL myself. What bedding compound have you folks found most user friendly for a first time attempt and most durable for the long term? Are there any tips that you have learned about the process that you care to pass on to a beginner?
Thank you in advance... Have a Great Weekend, Rol
 
I've never glass bedded a rifle but have used Accru glass for stock repairs. I use to get semi inleted stocks that were undersized and hand fit from there.
Everything I've read has always said it was best to buy a pillar bedding kit and pillar bed first and then glass the action. You can get glass bedding kits and pillar bedding kits from Brownells. They make pillars just for Remington 700's and they both come with instructions. But I would get a book or read as much as you can about it before you try it. It seems very simple but you could glue the action to the stock and then there is no fix because it is permanent.
 
Devcon steel putty
kiwi neutral shoe polish as release agent

It's all in the prep work. WD-40 on a rag and q-tips to clean up the extra ooze. silly putty is a lot better than playdo to use as a barrier.
 
ScreaminEagle":yi5cla8h said:
Devcon steel putty
kiwi neutral shoe polish as release agent

It's all in the prep work. WD-40 on a rag and q-tips to clean up the extra ooze. silly putty is a lot better than playdo to use as a barrier.
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Oh man! I used Kiwi brown, hope I didn't mess things up!! It all comes off anyway..... :grin:
EE2
 
Bedding is a mechanical thing and nothing more. It's a fairly simple thing that gets away from you when you fail to think ahead. If you don't let it get ahead of you you should do well.
 
Marine Tec or Accura Glas gel are both easy to use. Accura is a one to one mixture. Enough release agent in the correct places is very important. Put two coats on where the action will contact the bedding and three coats where you are sure the bedding won't touch. Rick.
 
Thanks for all the replies fellas.. I think the idea of bedding an " old beater rifle" to practice is a good excuse to buy another rifle.. ;~) I have printed Richard Franklin's article on Stress-Free Pillar Bedding and will study it and undoubtedly benefit greatly. As my old hunting partner says, "Rol, you are eliminating all the excuses for missing a shot".. Guess I will have to dedicate more trigger time to gain the most benefit from this bedding job.. :~))
Thanks again.. Rol
 
G'Day Fella's

Rol_P, I have been using Acra-Glass Gel (with Atomised Aluminum) for years now and many bedding jobs later, have nothing but praise for this product!
The thing you need to do before starting your first bedding job, is to actually fully understand what it is you are trying to achieve and just as importantly, how it is you are going to physically achieve this!!!
Apart from this product (and release agent), and knowledge, you will also need some masking tape and a ventilated space to do the work!

Hope that helps

Doh!
Homer
 
Today, after starting this post, I found Score High Gunsmithing Site which has some informative video about pillar and glass bedding.. He also promotes his product, but we cannot hate him for that.. I think that I will gather more info and maybe go for broke, pillar and glass bed the stock on my first try... Thanks again for all of your suggestions. Rol
 
I just purchased his bedding material, and it arrived today. I hope to try it out soon.
 
Good luck you guys. It is very rewarding to take your time and get it right. I always seem to get some gain in accuracy, sometimes more gain than others but always positive gain.
 
In my opinion use something with the consistency of peanut butter ( marine tex, accra glass GEL, devcon). You can literally "butter it" on where you want and it will not run into places you don't want it to go.

Regular Accra glass has the consistency of honey and will run everywhere, into every nook and cranny and it is very hard to use if a novice.... I know first hand. My first bedding job was in 1998 and I used regular accraglass.... take the action out of the stock and you can tell.

Everyone since then is either Marine Tex or Accraglass gel. Great stuff.

As the others have said put on more release agent than you think you need ( I use carnuba hardwood floor wax) and take it slow.

Here is the last one I did last spring.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21391
 
I have used Accraglass, Devcon and Score High bedding kits (for about $50) and PTG steel stock ferrules ($7) as pillars for several jobs now and I prefer the steel ferrule to aluminum pillar kits just because of thermal material expansion coefficients (steel on steel). My only caution is to learn release agent coating techniques and don't overdo the project to start, at least until you gain some application control efficiency.

Good luck and be careful!
 
If you are doing pillar bedding shown method is not suitable to attain precise results partially at least because of bedding bearing surface complexity. Pillar, not action surface is bedded to rear tang by pillar method. Nothing rear of recoil lug is bedded except pillar. Some consideration also needs to be given to barrel axis, plus fore-end tip geometry as well. Deal is much more simple to bed steel to steel without sandwiching breathing stock material to metal at either top or bottom.

Think concept stock shear flow and simplicity through! think KISS!
 
Charlie at score-hi is a good person to do business with and he is a long range competitive shooter himself and I have had him do a scope install on my 338-378 Accumark and it is a tack driver minus the tracking errors at different places in the travel of the internals that he pointed out after running a worksheet! Never did the task you speak of but I would call him if ya had questions or just send it to him ? He is reasonable with his prices and glad he is local :mrgreen:
 
Anybody put much stock in what Ernie the Gunsmith is saying in his series of "Gunsmithing Odds and Ends" as seen here:

http://www.erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c41_p1.html

He seems to have some validity to what he's saying in terms of building the right foundation and taking two steps to get there. I still think the best way to fit pillars to an action would be to tape emery paper to the action, and physically sand the pillar heads to fit perfectly, but that's not going to address the torquing aspect of contact and guard screws and such. Or is this purely overthinking things?

I'm about to have to bed my first rifle, as I have a Rem673 that has decided to shoot everything about 2-3" to the right of point of aim, regardless of sight adjustment. I'm figuring, based on what I've read from others with this model, it needs bedding and floating. It would be my first endeavor, so I may see about picking up a cheapie 700 and bedding it to a Boyd's stock to see how it all works first. I'd be out $300-400 for the rifle, and $100 for the stock, plus the cost of the bedding/pillar kit and tools, but I'm betting I could recoup the investment if I did it right and sold the "beater" rifle off after bedding it. Of course, if I bed it and it shoots great, I might just have to keep it...
 
Dubyam,

Ernie has the right idea. I've used his "bed heads" on a Vanguard in a B&C stock, and it works great. I'll be trying it soon with a Mark V and then my Sendero.

However, you can bed without installing pillars, especially on a cheap rifle. Odds are you have a significant source of pressure on the barrel or action causing the problem, and once you sand it so that nothing is touching the action you'll be good to bed.

Also be sure the screws aren't hitting anything.
 
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