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Mike,
The next coyote is going to get a 100 gr BT delivered from the Bob. :grin:
JD338
The next coyote is going to get a 100 gr BT delivered from the Bob. :grin:
JD338
Been some good calling lately
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DrMike
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Jim,
I'm tending toward lighter bullets in my CDL SF. The heavier bullets don't seem to stabilise as well. I suspect that the rifle will settle on 100 grain, and BTs will be at the top of the heap.
I'm tending toward lighter bullets in my CDL SF. The heavier bullets don't seem to stabilise as well. I suspect that the rifle will settle on 100 grain, and BTs will be at the top of the heap.
Is your Bob shaping up Mike? Weird how my CDL didn't really like anything over 100gr either. Seemed to shoot them decent enough, but it seems pretty limiting to have a rifle not shoot towards the upper end of the bullet weight range? I know some rifles prefer certain bullet weights, but mine seemed to only be truly consistent with 100gr'ers. Scotty
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Scotty,
I am uncomfortable with my Bob. However, I do have a load with IMR 8208 XBR and 100 grain Hornady SPs that give me 0.29 inch groups with good velocity. I can get almost 200 fps more with other powders, but groups open up. There was a suggestion that 115 grain TSX will work. Again, velocity is very low. I tried to focus on the 110 grain AB, but groups were not spectacular. I haven't given up, but I do need to focus. The urge to stalk wolves is giving me the incentive.
I am uncomfortable with my Bob. However, I do have a load with IMR 8208 XBR and 100 grain Hornady SPs that give me 0.29 inch groups with good velocity. I can get almost 200 fps more with other powders, but groups open up. There was a suggestion that 115 grain TSX will work. Again, velocity is very low. I tried to focus on the 110 grain AB, but groups were not spectacular. I haven't given up, but I do need to focus. The urge to stalk wolves is giving me the incentive.
Seems like you are having a little of the same as I had with my 25-06. I imagine we are pretty picky about our rifles and how they shoot, but they just seem like they should be better. Glad you are getting some good groups out of yours. Some days I wonder if I wasn't too picky with mine, cause it did shoot the 100's okay, but shot everything else like a Brown Bess. Scotty
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For larger game, I'd really like to be able to shoot either the 110 AB or the 115 PT. Realistically, these register MOA groups, but I want better accuracy, especially with wolves. I'm weighing carrying my 280 with 120 grain pills.
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Mike -
all three of the "bobs" that I load for really like the 110AB, but none of them are made by big green. The CDL LE is unfired, so i'm not sure how it would shoot them :roll:. I am using R19 in all rifles with the 110 grain bullet.
all three of the "bobs" that I load for really like the 110AB, but none of them are made by big green. The CDL LE is unfired, so i'm not sure how it would shoot them :roll:. I am using R19 in all rifles with the 110 grain bullet.
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Joel,
I hope to get an opportunity to do some work with the Bob in the next couple of weeks. At the moment, I'm swamped with need to edit three television shows and develop custom loads for six rifles. However, the Bob is at the top of the list (together with a Model 700 Limited Edition 280 I picked up this past week).
I hope to get an opportunity to do some work with the Bob in the next couple of weeks. At the moment, I'm swamped with need to edit three television shows and develop custom loads for six rifles. However, the Bob is at the top of the list (together with a Model 700 Limited Edition 280 I picked up this past week).
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Mike -
You are starting to get a collection of the LE's!!! I guess all the trouble Scotty had didn't scare you away. It sounds like you have to be very organized to get all the to-do items done on your list.
What is the hunting method used when going after wolves?
You are starting to get a collection of the LE's!!! I guess all the trouble Scotty had didn't scare you away. It sounds like you have to be very organized to get all the to-do items done on your list.
What is the hunting method used when going after wolves?
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We'll be calling after setting up in a likely location. Cut a track, set up and call using a rabbit squaller. I'm allowed two per annum--more when bounty hunting. This is one of the most challenging quarries, with shots commonly at 450 yards or so.
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Mike,
Can you bait?
I know some coyote hunters here in MI use road kill deer. They set up 50-100 yds down wind and wait for the coyotes to move in.
I have never done it but have heard that it is pretty productive....
JD338
Can you bait?
I know some coyote hunters here in MI use road kill deer. They set up 50-100 yds down wind and wait for the coyotes to move in.
I have never done it but have heard that it is pretty productive....
JD338
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I have used bait piles very effectively in the UP of michigan. normallly what we would use was trapping scraps froze solid in a rubbermaid tote. It kept them from dragging it off as its heavy and doenst' have anything really good to grab ahold of. I have heard of other guys doing the same thing with buckets and dogfood/meat scraps covered in water and frozen. It also limits what the birds can pick clean. The trick is to place it in a location where you can sneak up and get a look at it from a couple hundred yards away.
Its also very effective to set up and call 300-400 yards away down wind. A lot of times a bobcat or fox will be sittign just downwind of the bait waiting for an opportunity to sneak in for a bit when there are a couple of coyotes on the bait. I would normall try the calling first and then wait 1/2 hour to 45 minutes and sneak up for a peek at the bait.
We would also sometimes drag a dead deer out onto the ice and sit several hundred yards down wind and wait for the dogs to come in at night. its pretty easy to see them on a moon lit night with some snow cover.
Its also very effective to set up and call 300-400 yards away down wind. A lot of times a bobcat or fox will be sittign just downwind of the bait waiting for an opportunity to sneak in for a bit when there are a couple of coyotes on the bait. I would normall try the calling first and then wait 1/2 hour to 45 minutes and sneak up for a peek at the bait.
We would also sometimes drag a dead deer out onto the ice and sit several hundred yards down wind and wait for the dogs to come in at night. its pretty easy to see them on a moon lit night with some snow cover.
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No baiting allowed. There is some incentive to tag a couple of wolves, though. I need to verify prices for coyote pelts, but it seems they are strong right now. A local vet told me at church this morning that coyote pelts were $60, which I believe is more than $25. It is getting more attractive each time I speak with someone. Wolf pelts should bring quite a pretty penny. The bounty is fairly high, so I'm guessing that a prime pelt that is not shot up should fetch upwards of $700 or so. It'll pay for gas and load components (or one of the rifles that keep multiplying). I'll verify prices tomorrow with a buyer.
