CT Silver tips for .280 Remington?

[pahunter]

Has any body used these bullets for hunting? I bought a box and tried these bullets with the recipe I used for hunting. I shoot a Remington 700 .280 Mtn. rifle. I usually use a 140gr. Partition for whitetail. I loaded up twenty rounds (140gr. Silver tips) to see what I could come with. When all was said and done I was covering 5 rounds with a dime at 100 yds. (Better grouping than the partitions, I usually cover 5 rds. with a quarter) I just hand load for hunting. I am not a competition shooter.
So if anyone uses these rounds for hunting let me know how they work.
thanks

 

[Britz]

I have used 30 cal balistic tips for hunting deer several years and had excellent perfomance. The CT silvertip is a balistic tip with the coating and a .284 should perform similar to the .308. Once you get down to .243 or so, the balistic tips are made for varmint hunting, not medium game. Should work just fine.

 

[JD338]

pahunter

The 280 Rem with a 140 gr PT or BT/CT bullet is very effective on WT
deer and then some.
My go to load is 57.0 grs RL19, R-P case and Federal GM210M primer.
With the 140 gr BT (same as the CT but without the Lubalox coating),
I have killed many WT deer and 2 bull caribou at ranges of 20 yds to
300 yds.
Exit wounds are the size of a quarter.
Put it in the deers chest and your tracking job, if any, will be short.
The 140 gr BT in a 280 Rem kills deer like lighting. :wink:

JD338

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Ballistic tips usually do shoot better then the partitions. A couple of years ago I shot an antelope broadside with one of the 150gr flavor, at an impact velocity of 2700fps. The bullet went in and evaporated. There was damage to every major organ north of the diaphram. The bullet never exited, and all I found shrapnel. Of course that made for one very dead antelope. Since them I've switched to Accubonds, and they leave very nice exit holes.

 

[Powerstroke]

pahunter,

I've used 150gr SilverTips a-head of 57grains of Viht N-165 that shoots as you stated. Taken both elk and mulies with that round out of my .280.

 

[spires5d]

I've loaded up some 7mm Mag. shells with 140 gr. ct ballistic tip which uses the same bullet as a .280. I like the way they perform at the range for me. Haven 't hit a deer with them as of yet,but I've heard that they do a good job. Most of my shots on deer have been in brushy country ,100yds. or less.With the .280 Rem. you should be able to crank out 2875fps. with IMR 4350 powder.





Noslers Rock!

 

[JD338]

With the .280 Rem. you should be able to crank out 2875fps. with IMR 4350 powder.
Noslers Rock!

.....and 2950-3000 fps with RL19. :wink:

JD338

 

[pahunter]

Thanks for the info. A lot of you guys are shooting a hotter load than I do. I use 51grs. H4831 powder, cci primer, 140gr. CT Silver tip, and stuff all that into a remington shell.

 

[JD338]

That is a light charge weight, should be in the 2700 fps range which is mid range 7mm-08. Really all you would ever need for WT deer. Just put the bullet where it needs to go and the BT/CT will do the rest. :grin:

JD338

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Looks like a great load for the kids to shoot.

 

[pahunter]

JD338,

Like I said earlier, Starting with the minimum load. I loaded up 5 rds each of 54gr, 55gr, 56gr,and 57gr. I had my best grouping at 54 grs but wasn't really impressed. A tricked I've used before with success is "if you don't get a better grouping going hotter start going lighter" And the lighter I got the better grouping I got. And I wasn't going to complain about covering 5 shots with a dime at 100yds.

 

[JD338]

pahunter

I know that as well, trying to find the sweet spot for your rifle.
I had good luck with H4831SC and the 160 gr PT, best load/group went .400".
IMR4350 and RL19 both turned in excellent accuracy with the 140 gr PT and BT bullets. I went with RL19 for higher velocity and still getting groups in the .5-.6 range.
If you want higher velocity with great accuracy, try RL19. 57.0 grs seems to be the magic load.

BTW, I hunted Trout Run in St Mary's this past Nov. Beautiful country. :grin:

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

They will do the same as the ballistic tip in the same weight. Deadly on deer.

 

[pahunter]

JD338

St. Marys is about an north of me. Real nice country up there.
And thanks for the suggestions and I'll give it a try.

 

[GilaJorge]

I would not use Silver Tips for anything....I had them ice-pick on me...no expansion just clean through...where Remington CoreLokts anchored them on the spot...if you don't like CoreLokts I would stay with Nosler Partitions or AccuBonds...these are all fine bullets.

 

[JD338]

I would not use Silver Tips for anything....I had them ice-pick on me...no expansion just clean through...where Remington CoreLokts anchored them on the spot...if you don't like CoreLokts I would stay with Nosler Partitions or AccuBonds...these are all fine bullets.

Can you share more details on your BT experiences?
What caliber and bullet weight?
What velocity and distance?
What kind of internal damage was done by the bullet?

JD338

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

IcePick?
And we are talking about the Balistic Silver tip, and not the old Winchester Silver tips from the 1970's?

 

[GilaJorge]

Goat Sniper::::yes the old Silver Tips from the 70s is probably correct...it was 348 200 gr Silver Tips used on white tail deer...shot this one deer in particular 5 times finally found a Core Lokt in my pocket and downed the animal with one shot...all shots were within about a 6 inch circle...on cleaning the animal...found the Silver Tips had just gone clean through and never opened up...the Core Lokt in the other hand was fully mushroomed and lodged just under the skin on the off side...it knocked the buck for a loop...which is typical of Core Lokts....have not used any Silver Tips since...

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

Jorge, those old Winchester Silvertips from the 70's were TERRIBLE. I considered open a thread this morning nominating then as the worst bullet ever. My dad had some for his .338 Win Mag. He never shot anything with them because he couldn't get then to group less then about 2 feet at 100 yards. Fortunately the new Ballistic Silver Tips are a completely different bullet. It's a Nosler Ballistic Tip with a fancy black Winchester coating. As you can see from my earlier post, I've had not problem with these bullets opening up, and in my experience are a very accurate bullet. Some of the early Ballistic Tips would blow up when every you hit something. Since then, Noslers redesigned the Ballistic Tip with a heavier jacket turning it into on heck of a deer/antelope slayer. Overall, I agree with you on the Accubonds. They Accubonds are my favorite bullet. For the weight and velocity ranges I shoot (160gr @ 3400 fps out of my STW) the accubonds are hard to beat.

 

[JD338]

GilaJorge

Antelope_Sniper is correct, these are two different bullet designs.
The Combined Technologies Ballistic Silver Tip is a Nosler Ballistic Tip with a gray Polycarbonate tip and the black Lubalox coating. These bullets are designed for thin skinned animals like deer. They kill deer fast with a lot of internal trauma.
Blood trails, if any, will be short with a properly placed bullet. :wink:

JD338