Ethics Question

[Vince]

I've got a question pertaining to agreements and honoring your word. Maybe this ain't the place for it but I don't have many places to talk this over with folks that understand hunting.

Let's say two fellas have an agreement where one gets first chance at a bear and another at a moose. Both are in position to shoot.

The one that is supposed to go first on bear takes the shot and kills a really big moose. The one that was supposed to get first opportunity had the moose in his sights but hasn't put the crosshairs on the kill zone yet.

Should the hunter that didn't shoot feel like his friend went back on his word? I told the other hunter that we had an agreement and I felt like he lied to me. In short I feel cheated.

I've had animals in my sights and held my fire because other folks had first opportunity. If I had seen a bear I'd have done everything to get him the opportunity instead of taking the shot.

Obviously he doesn't feel the same way. Am I incorrect in my thinking and expectations? I'd really like to know what scripture says about this. I wish him well in life but I told him I'll not hunt with him again.

If I had shot and missed then it would be his turn. Is my thinking wrong?

Vince

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[truck driver]

Vince one should honor his given word but you have people today who don't know what honor is. Not being there is hard to see what happened such as who had what opportunity to shoot game. When hunting upland birds it was always the person who jumped the bird who got the first shot but I've had my own brother block a shot at a buck because he didn't want me to shoot since he had left his rifle in the car and almost caught a slug out of a 30-06 when he stepped in front of me. What I'm saying is people will do strange things when it comes to hunting. I've had numerous experiences with people doing strange things when hunting together.

 

[Rol_P]

Vince, first welcome home.. I agree with you that your fellow hunter should have held his shot until after you took your first shot.. It is too bad that people can not honor their word to a fellow man.

 

[Vince]

I'm not home yet Roland.
Got one more day to get it done.
Wee Doggie, let's go git ' er done.

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[DrMike]

To be certain, we should always honour our word and live up to our agreements. There will always be jerks around us. We can either permit them to steal our joy at being in new country, seeing new things and experiencing the joys of the outdoors; or we can shove them aside. It is too bad that this wasn't worked out by the guide for the day. There is no redress for what has already happened; it is best to move on and learn from it. If this is someone with whom you may hunt again, you might want to either avoid him or make it very clear how the hunt is to be conducted the next time around. If he is another client whom you are likely never to see again, you need to let it slide or it will gnaw at you, ruining what is an otherwise neat experience. Perhaps, if it is the latter, you can make it clear to the guide that you prefer not to be with that individual in the field.

 

[Rol_P]

Sorry Vince... I assumed and you know what that does. BEST of Luck tomorow....

 

[SJB358]

Don't ever be near old Bill when there's elk in range. I believe he goes into kill mode! :lol:

All jokes aside, our word is we've got.

 

[Vince]

Thanks guys.
It was my friend from Colorado. I told him that I'd not be hunting with him much in the future.
He did apologize tonight and I told him no worries. I learned a lesson. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice then it's shame on me. I would understand if I didn't have a shot or something and he had told me he really wants a bear so we decided that I would go first on moose and him bear.
I'll stay cordial and he is welcome in my home but I don't plan to hunt with him again. That's as much forgiveness as I can muster at the moment. It's been gnawing at me since it happened and I was glad I talked with him to clear the air.
He got a really nice moose. I'll post a picture after I get back home.

Vince

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[Vince]

By the way, the country is gorgeous.
Call me strange but I like walking in the bogs. I guess because it's easier on the knees.
The people here are fantastic but I need a translator to understand them eh.

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[Thebear_78]

An agreement is an agreement. He should have honored it. I would bet he probably let his excitement get the better of him. I would say that it is clear his first dibs on a bear lis long gone.

Hope you can make the best of the hunt anyway. Who knows there is always a bigger bull out there. Karma may come to your rescue yet.

 

[Elkman]

Vince a man's word is his honor, he broke his, it's too bad you got the short end. Hope tomorrow goes better.

 

[Vince]

Cut bull and cow pair sign this morning. Going to go back out this afternoon and try to locate them. Didn't want to push them out of the area.
Coming down to the wire.

Vince

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[DrMike]

Go get 'im, Vince; we're still pulling for you.

 

[Charlie-NY]

You're a better man than me Vince. That kind of game gluttony wouldn't have gone down well with me and just goes to show who your friends really are (or aren't). Friends don't pull crap like that.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[LD375]

Vince, if you have a bull/cow tag, fill it pal! good luck to ya!

Lou

 

[Vince]

No moose this time.
Just finished. Too dark to see.

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[Thebear_78]

better luck next time vince.

 

[Vince]

Thanks.
I'm coming back alone or with my wife next time.

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[DrMike]

Sorry to hear that, Vince. That is why we call it "hunting" and not "shooting."

 

[LD375]

Thanks.
I'm coming back alone or with my wife next time.

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Sorry to hear Vince, I'm most certain you well do better next time around pal, I'm sure you tried your best with a lot of effort as well.
Lou