Ethics Question
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Hi Vince, sorry I did not pick this up earlier. I have made those agreements in the past and I agree that we are only as good as our word. I am sorry to hear that your friend would do that to another friend.
Sure hope that you get another opportunity to go after Moose!!
Blessings,
Dan
Sure hope that you get another opportunity to go after Moose!!
Blessings,
Dan
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That is just one of the reasons I always spent a little more money and went 1 on 1.
Sorry to hear about your dilemma , sucks after travelling that far. The guys I hunt with we have a rule and it pertains if all involved have a tag for said game in their pocket.
EG. Moose , if my buddy and I both have tags the rule is whomever spots an animal gets dibs , if they decide to pass on it next guy in line is good to go.
We have had this understanding for years with good results.
Better luck next trip, I'm curious if you managed to hit the rut at all and were your guides calling bulls in .
EG. Moose , if my buddy and I both have tags the rule is whomever spots an animal gets dibs , if they decide to pass on it next guy in line is good to go.
We have had this understanding for years with good results.
Better luck next trip, I'm curious if you managed to hit the rut at all and were your guides calling bulls in .
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Vince,
Too bad about your situation. A TRUE friend would stand by his word. Too many people are in it for themselves.
Hope you enjoyed the hunt and go back again.
JD338
Too bad about your situation. A TRUE friend would stand by his word. Too many people are in it for themselves.
Hope you enjoyed the hunt and go back again.
JD338
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That's a tough hunt if they aren't coming to the calls. Hunting in the muskeg is not your regular spot and stock situation by any means. Oct 1 till the 15 is ussually prime time for moose rut in this area ( Alberta). It may be similar in NFLD give or take a week , if you decide to head back try and plan your hunt around those days if possible. Next be sure to have someone that has sucsessfully called in moose guide you. Over calling is about as bad as not calling at all.
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I saw the guide manage to hold the bull in the area the other hunter shot with some calling. One of the things he said was too much calling is worse than no calling at all.super-7":2p3yr30p said:
I'm going back next year if I can arrange it.
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I'm tad late here but a little story.
There of use were hunting together the first year Pa started the concurrent antlered and antlerless season Early in the week Tom had taken a small six , Tony an I were deerless so on Thursday we decided we were going to line up about 75 yards apart overlooking a draw, a spot which has been exceptionally productive over the years. We were lined up with Tony in the upper ground blind, myself in the middle and Tom in the lower one. Before we split up Tom said he wasn't going to shoot anything that came our way, only after we had a deer then he would try for a second.
We were only parked maybe half hour when I saw four deer pass in front of Tom and make their way up toward me, he didn't fire a shot. To make a long story Tony and I both killed. I asked Tom why he didn't take one, "I told you two clowns, I wasn't going to shoot another until you each had at least one".
That's the type of partners I only hunt with, they obey the laws, play by the rules and stick to their word.
Bill
There of use were hunting together the first year Pa started the concurrent antlered and antlerless season Early in the week Tom had taken a small six , Tony an I were deerless so on Thursday we decided we were going to line up about 75 yards apart overlooking a draw, a spot which has been exceptionally productive over the years. We were lined up with Tony in the upper ground blind, myself in the middle and Tom in the lower one. Before we split up Tom said he wasn't going to shoot anything that came our way, only after we had a deer then he would try for a second.
We were only parked maybe half hour when I saw four deer pass in front of Tom and make their way up toward me, he didn't fire a shot. To make a long story Tony and I both killed. I asked Tom why he didn't take one, "I told you two clowns, I wasn't going to shoot another until you each had at least one".
That's the type of partners I only hunt with, they obey the laws, play by the rules and stick to their word.
Bill
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Bonz
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Sorry to hear of the broken promise... Just got back from second rifle season here in Colorado over the weekend where I made that agreement with a friend and told him he had first crack at an elk if one showed while we were together. If multiple animals showed, he got first pick and we would shoot as close to the same time as possible. We were posted up on a meadow so this kind of arrangement was pretty feasible.
ONLY reason I would think differently than what has been shared was if the animal was imminently showing it was going to bolt and take off, and he had the shot when any more time would have compromised the opportunity for both of you. If it was a serene scene with no sign of the animal departing, shame on him for not honoring the agreement.
ONLY reason I would think differently than what has been shared was if the animal was imminently showing it was going to bolt and take off, and he had the shot when any more time would have compromised the opportunity for both of you. If it was a serene scene with no sign of the animal departing, shame on him for not honoring the agreement.
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We've parted ways as far as hunting partners go.
He's offering me half the meat and like I said earlier he's welcome in my home for a meal but I won't be sharing a camp with him anytime soon.
Outside of this I loved Newfoundland and will be returning next year for another moose and bear combo. Live and learn.
I have my beliefs and ethics and others have theirs.
Vince
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He's offering me half the meat and like I said earlier he's welcome in my home for a meal but I won't be sharing a camp with him anytime soon.
Outside of this I loved Newfoundland and will be returning next year for another moose and bear combo. Live and learn.
I have my beliefs and ethics and others have theirs.
Vince
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Hi Vince,
First off anyone who can't keep that simple of a promise is selfish, period! That's a back stabber of a friend for sure, and one I won't care to really call my friend after that tactful act. I've usually wanted the other person I'm hunting with to get the game only because I enjoy taking people hunting. Sometimes with a whole lot more effort and joy in seeing them achieve their goals hunting, but that's not the case here at all. No buddy, that's a cheat and a lier!
My brother used to hunt for years, myself twice, with an outfitter in Newfoundland, Patey & sons Ltd. My brother worked his shows for years. I at one point thought the area was over hunted and wrote the Ministry of Wildlife about what I noticed, game management that would allow the animals to mature vs. every hunter feeling the need they Must come home with an animal? It's first and foremost game management through hunting, right? The flowing year the Ministry made the proper changes and I believe the industry has turned around, but I can't say for sure? Patey still does produce some nice bulls, I hunted with his father, and another very old guy that I respected very much. You'll notice his photos show the small ones and not just the biggest bulls taken, but I haven't been there in years, maybe 10? So I'm not pushing this outfitter on you or anyone, but this was who we used over a few others my brother used over there. They did have some huge bears and I loved the spot and stalk hunting them.
Sorry to hear about having to come home empty handed at the expense of your hunting buddy. That's a tough lesson to learn but now you know what kind of a man he isn't, right! Those are not true friends.
Best wishes to you Vince. I know how hard that is, a tough pill to swallow for sure!
First off anyone who can't keep that simple of a promise is selfish, period! That's a back stabber of a friend for sure, and one I won't care to really call my friend after that tactful act. I've usually wanted the other person I'm hunting with to get the game only because I enjoy taking people hunting. Sometimes with a whole lot more effort and joy in seeing them achieve their goals hunting, but that's not the case here at all. No buddy, that's a cheat and a lier!
My brother used to hunt for years, myself twice, with an outfitter in Newfoundland, Patey & sons Ltd. My brother worked his shows for years. I at one point thought the area was over hunted and wrote the Ministry of Wildlife about what I noticed, game management that would allow the animals to mature vs. every hunter feeling the need they Must come home with an animal? It's first and foremost game management through hunting, right? The flowing year the Ministry made the proper changes and I believe the industry has turned around, but I can't say for sure? Patey still does produce some nice bulls, I hunted with his father, and another very old guy that I respected very much. You'll notice his photos show the small ones and not just the biggest bulls taken, but I haven't been there in years, maybe 10? So I'm not pushing this outfitter on you or anyone, but this was who we used over a few others my brother used over there. They did have some huge bears and I loved the spot and stalk hunting them.
Sorry to hear about having to come home empty handed at the expense of your hunting buddy. That's a tough lesson to learn but now you know what kind of a man he isn't, right! Those are not true friends.
Best wishes to you Vince. I know how hard that is, a tough pill to swallow for sure!
Cleveland48
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I too have hunted with people like that who are game hogs. If I invite one of my friends to hunt with me they always get first shot, or first pick as far as stands go. Some though try so hard to quick shoot you though even though it's your time to shoot.
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