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[eagleclassic]

Hello to the forum

Just wanna say a big thank you to all the professionals here on this forum. I've been lurking here for about 4 years and am so impressed with the lack of drama here. Such a respectful and knowledgeable place.

Dr Mike I grew up for 30 years in Beaver lodge hunting all over that country near you. I appreciate all the quickload calls you provide, and I am trying to dial in my new 7 rem mag in with some of your previous posts. 150 lrab and max QL of rel 22 is not shooting well nor is it getting the velocity. About 150fps slow. Oh well maybe on to H1000.

Anyway thank you all.

Dan

 

[gerry]

Welcome to the forum Dan. This is a great place to come and chat without too much drama like you said. Lots of great gals and guys here.

Have you tried different seating depths with the 150 gr ABLR? You may already know but often they like to be seated quite deep before they shoot. Some guns just don't like them for some reason but many do.

 

[DrMike]

Hello to the forum

Just wanna say a big thank you to all the professionals here on this forum. I've been lurking here for about 4 years and am so impressed with the lack of drama here. Such a respectful and knowledgeable place.

Dr Mike I grew up for 30 years in Beaver lodge hunting all over that country near you. I appreciate all the quickload calls you provide, and I am trying to dial in my new 7 rem mag in with some of your previous posts. 150 lrab and max QL of rel 22 is not shooting well nor is it getting the velocity. About 150fps slow. Oh well maybe on to H1000.

Anyway thank you all.

Dan

Welcome aboard, Dan. Always pleased to see new folk posting. Man, another Albertan posting! :mrgreen: Don't know if the site can tolerate that. :grin: There are good people here and some very knowledgeable individuals.

I have used the 150 grain LRAB out of a .280 to tag a fine mule deer and a good 6X6 elk. The bullet has worked quite well. I haven't loaded it in my 7RM. I have such a good load with 175 grain PT and 175 grain Speer MagTip that I haven't worked with other weights yet. I still have a good stash of 175 grain TBBC for that rifle, as well. It has sure accounted for its share of moose and elk over the years. Gerry is right to suggest looking at your seating depths for the accuracy. To be sure, H1000 has worked very well for a number of loads I worked up with 160 grain bullets over the years in other people's rifles. I would think it should work well with the 150 grain LRAB. It would certainly give you good case fill.

Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 73.277 grain H2O = 4.758 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   87    58.00   2407    1929   29335  10208     86.6    1.590
-18.0   89    59.45   2474    2039   31445  10597     88.4    1.545
-16.0   91    60.90   2543    2153   33719  10975     90.0    1.502
-14.0   93    62.35   2612    2272   36174  11337     91.6    1.459
-12.0   95    63.80   2681    2394   38823  11683     93.0    1.413
-10.0   98    65.25   2751    2521   41690  12008     94.3    1.365
-08.0  100    66.70   2822    2652   44794  12312     95.5    1.319
-06.0  102    68.15   2893    2787   48159  12590     96.6    1.274
-04.0  104    69.60   2964    2926   51814  12841     97.5    1.231
-02.0  106    71.05   3035    3068   55790  13063     98.3    1.189  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    72.50   3106    3214   60123  13253     98.9    1.149  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  111    73.95   3178    3363   64855  13409     99.4    1.109  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  113    75.40   3249    3516   70035  13528     99.8    1.071  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  115    76.85   3320    3671   75720  13610    100.0    1.035  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  117    78.30   3391    3829   81973  13653    100.0    0.999  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  119    79.75   3461    3990   88872  13682    100.0    0.965  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    72.50   3268    3557   73510  12794    100.0    1.056  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    72.50   2880    2763   48600  12818     92.3    1.268

Some other possible propellants include:

Cartridge          : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 73.277 grain H2O = 4.758 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

23 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570                    108.7     77.4     5.01    3194    95.5    60000   15368   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     80.6     5.22    3164    95.7    59146   15120   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  96.6     70.1     4.55    3154   100.0    60000   13445   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 105.4     70.8     4.59    3140   100.0    60000   13096   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        107.6     72.7     4.71    3139    99.1    60000   14019   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           97.5     68.7     4.45    3135    99.9    60000   13610   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     99.3     68.5     4.44    3132    98.3    60000   13969   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           103.8     68.1     4.41    3124    98.7    60000   13559   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        98.2     68.1     4.41    3124    98.7    60000   13559   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     99.6     71.5     4.64    3122    97.2    60000   14058   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  99.6     68.0     4.40    3107    99.5    60000   13425   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     102.2     68.3     4.43    3106    99.4    60000   13441   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      108.4     72.5     4.70    3104    98.9    60000   13248   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     74.7     4.84    3100   100.0    55482   13763   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      99.6     73.3     4.75    3092    99.8    60000   12874   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 101.9     67.3     4.36    3070   100.0    60000   12102   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  96.5     65.2     4.22    3066    99.4    60000   12797   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      92.1     64.3     4.16    3057   100.0    60000   12346   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           91.6     63.9     4.14    3044    99.2    60000   12488   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    97.8     66.8     4.33    3044    98.0    60000   12661   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      101.8     66.8     4.33    3044    98.0    60000   12661   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           91.6     61.2     3.97    3034   100.0    60000   11819   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       90.8     61.4     3.98    3029   100.0    60000   11795   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              95.4     67.9     4.40    3020    99.3    60000   12187   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            96.2     62.2     4.03    3016   100.0    60000   11572   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    101.9     68.1     4.41    3014    99.6    60000   11968   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       99.7     67.4     4.36    3012   100.0    60000   11870   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    101.9     66.0     4.28    3000    98.5    60000   11988   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 94.1     61.5     3.98    2991   100.0    60000   10927   1.179  ! Near Maximum !

 

[joelkdouglas]

Welcome Dan!

 

[Rol_P]

Welcome Dan, I learn much from many of the folks here on the forum. They are very informed and willing to share. A side benefit is the well intended humor that creeps into the posts from time to time.

 

[Elkman]

Good morning dan
Welcome to a great forum, and one of the most polite I have had the pleasure to visit.

 

[preacher]

Welcome Uncle Dan! I found R26 to be very good with the 160 and under bullets in my 7mm Rem Mag. R33 was outstanding with the 175. I used Fed 215M primers/Winchester cases. Great group of guys & Ladies here!

 

[sask boy]

Welcome to the forum Dan, I am sure you are going to enjoy this great group of gals & guys :wink:. There is knowledge galore here and the gang is also a lot of fun :mrgreen:.
I am in the process of loading 168gr. ABLRs in 2 7mm mags using RL22 & H1000 they are showing promise. I am sure you will get your rifle dialed in.

By chance are the bolts on your rifles on the left side?
PS. I like the way you spell your name .

Blessings,
Dan

 

[RiverRider]

Welcome Dan, I share your views on the nature of this forum and find it to be pretty refreshing after a few minutes of reading all the ball-busting and personal attacks so prevalent on other sites. We enjoy a lot of real world experience presented with a generous helping of humility also. This is one of the very best hunting, shooting, and reloading sites on the entire web!

 

[eagleclassic]

Thank u all for the warm welcome and info. I loaded the 150 lrab in 2 7mm08 at around 2850 with rel17 and have used it for last couple years. I wanted a little more range so i bought a tikka at Christmas with a viper pst as eyes arent what thye use to be. The seating depth i started with is sammi 3.290. Dont have much more room in mag maybe 30 thou. But i measured and its a looongway to the lands3.48. Also the tips are getting flattened about .030 by recoil in mag? So the journey begins.
On a side note i shot some 168 bergers at around 2750 that gave me .710 4 shot group.

 

[eagleclassic]

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[OU812]

Welcome aboard. Lots of great first hand info coming from some amazing guys and gals here. Best forum around as far as I'm concerned.

 

[DON]

Welcome Dan to the forum. Personally I think it's the best forum out there!! :mrgreen:

Don

 

[JD338]

Dan

Welcome to the forum, glad you are here.

JD338

 

[clambdin]

If your Tikka is twisted fast enough give the 168 ABLR a try, I have killed a few elk with it out of my 280 Ackley and so far it has done well !

 

[SJB358]

Welcome aboard. Best forum on the net here.

Don't be scared to jump the ABLRs nor boot them in the butt. They seem to respond to both pretty well.

 

[Vince]

Welcome to our loquacious slice of the Internet, Dan.

Vince


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[Guybo]

Welcome!, good folks here with lots of good information. This is a great forum. Mike