Well said!
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This thread has stirred the spectrum of views and beliefs, and in some cases, polarizing rhetoric. We aren't all going to agree with each other, but we sure should be considerate and respectful of all views. I find worth in knowing where others stand on key issues. This helps with finding common ground and allows for prosperity and problem solving. I was raised under the belief the "United we Stand, Divided we Fall". In 2025, I think we need a little of this more than ever.
I would also add that this should not be an American view, but a view that humanity should look into. We all benefit when wars aren't raging across the planet. That being said, sometimes problems need to be addressed.
I would also add that this should not be an American view, but a view that humanity should look into. We all benefit when wars aren't raging across the planet. That being said, sometimes problems need to be addressed.
clearwater
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At least you weren't banned for having an opinion. I got banned on another reloading forum for linking what i thought was a valuable article about the Covid Vaccine early in the pandemic. Pretty far a field from debating which gas check is best I imagine.
In some places I have lived, fighting (as in bar fights) was considered recreation. Seems today the internet in places provides similar. But not everyplace on the internet is this a custom. It must be especially hard if people from different countries are interacting what with the added communication challenges.
A couple of times now, just when I start losing my temper over someone's opinion, I come to find out they have exceptionally hard life challenges going on. Takes all the steam out.
(Old joke about first walking a mile in someone else's shoes---then you're a mile away and you have their shoes.)
Idaho53
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IMO-When we all think the same and give up our personal dignity and compassion for other views, we have lost everything worth living for. America is far from perfect, but I still love my Country and am proud to be an American. I don't invest energy in political titles that polarize our republic and sabotage democracy, and do invest time in healthy conversation that produces effective outcomes.
Historical facts below show America's deadliest two wars, and it's not WW2. Praying American history doesn't repeat...
Historical facts below show America's deadliest two wars, and it's not WW2. Praying American history doesn't repeat...
| War (and years of U.S. military involvement) | Number of fatalities |
|---|---|
| American Civil War (1861-1865) | 620,000 |
| World War II (1939-1945) | 405,399 |
I wholeheartedly second this..this a is hunting/shooting/reloading forum, and I am here for this reason only.
We have enough strife with the antigun/antihunting crowd, and we are a group of likeminded individuals here to support our passion and pastime, and find that camaraderie amongst our respected peers here, for this purpose.
Political stuff can be had on forums for that purpose; I support their right to their opinions and beliefs, even if it isn't in alignment with mine. Just as I hope that they would afford us the same respect, even though there are many who don't/won't. Those who have been proven to be disrespectful have been removed from this site with regularity and promptness, for which I am extremely grateful of, and for our Moderators! (But if these individuals are not reported to our moderators, the moderators cannot be effective in this regard.)
I just won't participate in those political debates here!
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Well said Gil.
If anyone has an issue or concern, send Fotis and/or I a PM.
JD338
If anyone has an issue or concern, send Fotis and/or I a PM.
JD338
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I’ve must have missed something here. Hate to see someone pressured out of here
longrangehunter
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I’d ask yourself what brought you here in the first place, and stay for that reason!?!
I hate politics, I don’t trust politicians, I don’t believe that the Government should be allowed to be involved in everything…. It’s The most wasteful use of money, resources and time that was ever put on Earth. They can’t make money on their own, they can only collect it from those that do! Which is why we’re in debt in the trillions of dollars!
That’s why I don’t vote! I am baffled by their stupidity and ignorance and see no reason for their actions to change? But maybe big government will be reduced to helping reducing our debt.
That said, we are all different people, and how we think, what we like and choose to do with our lives.
My own opinions are a mix of new ideas and old school beliefs. Just because I can’t make a certain bullet shoot doesn’t make me a bad shooter, or that doesn’t know how to hand load.
Now I’ve been told that only once before and in fact it was on here, but that never left me thinking that I should stop coming here for help, ideally to help me get the most out of my equipment and to make me a better hand loader. Which is what this place is all about.
Sure, I can even sell something that I no longer need or want, which is a bonus.
Perhaps you could remove some of the dust in your eyes for the time being, and then hopefully you’ll see the sunshine rises up again….. And bring your mind to a better place and make you at ease with what a new day has to offer!?!
I hate politics, I don’t trust politicians, I don’t believe that the Government should be allowed to be involved in everything…. It’s The most wasteful use of money, resources and time that was ever put on Earth. They can’t make money on their own, they can only collect it from those that do! Which is why we’re in debt in the trillions of dollars!
That’s why I don’t vote! I am baffled by their stupidity and ignorance and see no reason for their actions to change? But maybe big government will be reduced to helping reducing our debt.
That said, we are all different people, and how we think, what we like and choose to do with our lives.
My own opinions are a mix of new ideas and old school beliefs. Just because I can’t make a certain bullet shoot doesn’t make me a bad shooter, or that doesn’t know how to hand load.
Now I’ve been told that only once before and in fact it was on here, but that never left me thinking that I should stop coming here for help, ideally to help me get the most out of my equipment and to make me a better hand loader. Which is what this place is all about.
Sure, I can even sell something that I no longer need or want, which is a bonus.
Perhaps you could remove some of the dust in your eyes for the time being, and then hopefully you’ll see the sunshine rises up again….. And bring your mind to a better place and make you at ease with what a new day has to offer!?!
Darkhorse
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We all have different opinions but that don't mean we can't get along. Take me and my longtime wife for instance she is a staunch republican hating (so it seems sometimes) democrat. While I am a died in the wool conservative and a outspoken one at that. Yet we have somehow been married over 40 years and she's still my best friend.
I've lived all my life in the deep south and remember my dad spitting when he said "Carpetbaggers" Some say down here we are still fighting the civil war and deep down that's probably true. When one is raised visiting Civil war battlefields and hearing lamentations of us losing. And seeing my grandmother cry at Shiloh for her father who took the wound that killed him there. Then even as adults that great divisive war is always present, though suppressed. As for my Grandmother, we don't know if her memory was all that sharp, but he was a Captain from Georgia and was wounded at Shiloh and she was born when he was an old man. Maybe he died of old age, that's what I think.
But as a country we still get along and come together when needed.
Now it seems to me the people from the North and West see things different than us old crackers. I was on my way to Colorado to hunt elk and had stopped to eat breakfast at a restaurant just in sight of the front range. When I paid my ticket and turned around this lady stood up and said "You have the most wonderful Georgia accent." Somewhat taken aback I said "How did you know I'm from Georgia?" She said, "We saw your truck outside (tag) and sat here to be sure we'd catch you. Won't you sit down and have a cup of coffee?" I spent an hour or so just talking. Her and her husband were two of the nicest people I've ever met.
But face it. Regardless of our political beliefs there isn't one thing we can do to influence anything. We all ride the same river.
And we still get along.
And I didn't think I even had a Georgia accent.
I've lived all my life in the deep south and remember my dad spitting when he said "Carpetbaggers" Some say down here we are still fighting the civil war and deep down that's probably true. When one is raised visiting Civil war battlefields and hearing lamentations of us losing. And seeing my grandmother cry at Shiloh for her father who took the wound that killed him there. Then even as adults that great divisive war is always present, though suppressed. As for my Grandmother, we don't know if her memory was all that sharp, but he was a Captain from Georgia and was wounded at Shiloh and she was born when he was an old man. Maybe he died of old age, that's what I think.
But as a country we still get along and come together when needed.
Now it seems to me the people from the North and West see things different than us old crackers. I was on my way to Colorado to hunt elk and had stopped to eat breakfast at a restaurant just in sight of the front range. When I paid my ticket and turned around this lady stood up and said "You have the most wonderful Georgia accent." Somewhat taken aback I said "How did you know I'm from Georgia?" She said, "We saw your truck outside (tag) and sat here to be sure we'd catch you. Won't you sit down and have a cup of coffee?" I spent an hour or so just talking. Her and her husband were two of the nicest people I've ever met.
But face it. Regardless of our political beliefs there isn't one thing we can do to influence anything. We all ride the same river.
And we still get along.
And I didn't think I even had a Georgia accent.
DrMike
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Well said, Darkhorse. Indeed, we all ride the same river.
clearwater
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Most of us pay the same tolls.
Sounds like we all will be paying for the top .1% to get the most of this tax cut. No mention of ending taxes on tips, overtime, social security.
Sounds like we all will be paying for the top .1% to get the most of this tax cut. No mention of ending taxes on tips, overtime, social security.
You seem to have a clear distain for the wealthy.
Why should I pay for some man’s sex change because he wants to cut his tallywacker off? If he doesn’t like it and wants to cut it off give him a rusty razor blade or let him pay for his own surgery.
Why should the wealthy pay more? They already pay more percentage wise than us peons. They also put more money into the economy than you or I. I noticed in a previous post that you want free college education. At least I believe it was you and if not I apologize.
When you give it away free you make it’s monetary value $0.00. Now a college education, at least some degrees, have monetary value. Free will make them worthless or significantly reduce their value. Also, not everyone should go to college.
We still need people to dig ditches and work in the trades. In fact jobs in the trades tend to pay very well because not enough people want to work in the trades. We, American society, has bought this lie that everyone needs a college education. It’s a big fat lie that has led to debt that is unnecessary. Unless you are going to college to attain a degree of value, engineering, science, physics, or similar you really don’t need to be in college. Liberal Arts degrees and the like are comparable to underwater basket weaving degrees. You, at least I assume you are, are smart enough to know what I think of underwater basket weaving degrees.
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noslerpartition
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I just watched the press-conference.
Sorry, but if you back your current president, we don't have common ground.
Sorry, but if you back your current president, we don't have common ground.
I’m curious why you think this.
I think he’s doing what is good for America. Just as I would expect any other politician to do what is good for their constituents.
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Ok... I guess we don't have a common ground... If you can't see what the man is trying to do that dozens of presidents fail to do thus far but we don't have a common ground...... And if you don't like it feel free to leave
xphunter
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My first post in this thread @noslerpartition , I have never even looked into the part of the forum until now.
I do not participate in politics or religion sections of forum...I am here for the guns, shooting and hunting.
The exception is this single post for you.
You have had a warm invite to stay...IT Is Your Call.
Personally, I do not make hunting and shooting decisions based, little alone forum posts based on any press conference or any world ruler.
I do not participate in politics or religion sections of forum...I am here for the guns, shooting and hunting.
The exception is this single post for you.
You have had a warm invite to stay...IT Is Your Call.
Personally, I do not make hunting and shooting decisions based, little alone forum posts based on any press conference or any world ruler.
gerry
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What press conference are you taking about?
clearwater
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This is sad. I remember when my Church's missionary came back from the USSR in the 70's when Putin was KGB. They maimed Christians as a matter of policy. My Dad had friends killed on his airfield in Korea by communists flying Russian MiGs. I visited East Berlin when the wall was up, went thru Checkpoint Charlie. Saw how broken the people and the buildings were, I have Ukrainian friends who are trying to get their parents to safety here.
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