Hand loads for 270 700 Remington SPS
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I am not sure about getting an identical load to work for both bullets AND have similar trajectories. I would just build a good load, probably starting with H4350 since you are already having good luck with the powder. Sometimes you get lucky and a rifle will print pretty close but that is really not the norm with most of mine.
Just to give us an idea, why two similar bullets? Just wondering. Scotty
Just to give us an idea, why two similar bullets? Just wondering. Scotty
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Wolfman19,
Welcome to the forum. It would be unusual to get two different weight bullets to have the same POI. It is not unheard of, just rare. Just because someone else reports that they have found two bullets that perform thusly is no guarantee that they will perform the same in your rifle. Is there a possibility that you can tolerate close? And if so, how close is sufficient to satisfy your expectations?
Welcome to the forum. It would be unusual to get two different weight bullets to have the same POI. It is not unheard of, just rare. Just because someone else reports that they have found two bullets that perform thusly is no guarantee that they will perform the same in your rifle. Is there a possibility that you can tolerate close? And if so, how close is sufficient to satisfy your expectations?
I,ve found as long as you use bullets of the same type the 130,s and 150,s print the same poi. at 100 yrds. I do not get the same poi when mixing BT,s AB,s and partitions. As long as you stick to a spicific type ie: ballistic silver tips, they may very well print very close. I,v noted that 130 and 140 AB,s print the same. Also 140 and 150 BT,s are the same in my rifle. I don,t think powder choice would make any noticable difference as long as its the same for all bullet weights. I use a lot of H and IMR 4831. Never used H-4350.
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Wolfman19
Welcome to the forum, glad you are here.
As mentioned, its rare to get two different weights to shoot to the same POI.
Not sure what you intend to hunt but the 150 gr BST would make for a great all around bullet for deer both near and far.
JD338
Welcome to the forum, glad you are here.
As mentioned, its rare to get two different weights to shoot to the same POI.
Not sure what you intend to hunt but the 150 gr BST would make for a great all around bullet for deer both near and far.
JD338
Oldtrader3
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I can usually get the 130 gr Ballistic Tips and the 130 gr CT Silvertip, .270 Win bullets to group in the same group at 100 yards, only. However, I have not had much luck even getting other manufacturer 130 gr bullets to group in the same group at 100 yards, good luck with that. It will take some load development, for sure.
Welcome to the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
H4350 will shoot better with 130 gr bullets but to slow in my case.
H4831 sc is more universal. 130 gr, 60 gr H4831sc and CCI BR2 it is good choice.
150 gr BT 58gr H4831 with WLR primer. RL-22 58gr with WLR primers for 150gr BT is my best choice.
All loads YOU NEED to work up based on you rifle pressure tolerance.
Mag primers GM215 work well with both powders.
H4831 sc is more universal. 130 gr, 60 gr H4831sc and CCI BR2 it is good choice.
150 gr BT 58gr H4831 with WLR primer. RL-22 58gr with WLR primers for 150gr BT is my best choice.
All loads YOU NEED to work up based on you rifle pressure tolerance.
Mag primers GM215 work well with both powders.
I know the late jack O'Connor said that his .270 rifles would shoot 130 and 150 gr. bullets to the same or very close to the same POI. Problem is IIRC he was using milsurp H4831 in his loads. I haven't used 4831 of any kind in years so not much help thee. When I was using 4831, it was like O'Connor, the milsurp variety. He was also getting supplies of IMR7828 long before the public ever saw it.
For the record, the 130 gr. Sierra Pro-Hunter and 150 gr. Game King would shoot close enough to be usable without changing the scope's setting. Both bullets were sub-MOA but just far enough apart the if I shot three 130 gr. bullets and three 150 gr. bullets to the same point of aim, the group would usually be right around 1.25 to 1.50". The 150 gr. Game King made the tighter groups so I just dropped the 130 gr. bullets altogether and went strictly with the 150 gr. bullets. besides, the 150's don't mess up as much good eating meat. I recently got a very good deal on 7 boxes of 150 gr. Nosler Partitions so I'll be trying those out. With any luck they'll be close to the Sierra's grouping.
Paul B.
For the record, the 130 gr. Sierra Pro-Hunter and 150 gr. Game King would shoot close enough to be usable without changing the scope's setting. Both bullets were sub-MOA but just far enough apart the if I shot three 130 gr. bullets and three 150 gr. bullets to the same point of aim, the group would usually be right around 1.25 to 1.50". The 150 gr. Game King made the tighter groups so I just dropped the 130 gr. bullets altogether and went strictly with the 150 gr. bullets. besides, the 150's don't mess up as much good eating meat. I recently got a very good deal on 7 boxes of 150 gr. Nosler Partitions so I'll be trying those out. With any luck they'll be close to the Sierra's grouping.
Paul B.
PJGunner":74o9cizz said:
Those 150gr PT's are some AWESOME shooting bullets in my 270WSM. I really like the way they shoot and also, the way they hold up. Long and sleek.. Probably my #1 pick were I to hunt elk with the 270. I think it would be very hard to keep one in a broadside elk. Scotty
The 150 PT is my elk bullet in the 270 as well. I,m very impressed with AB,s and BT,s too. They are both scarey accurate. I,d use the BT,s for deer any day. I,d feel completely confident using the 140 AB on elk. I,m gonna get me some 160 PT,s and load them up for dangerous game. Ha,Ha. I think the 160 would be a large animal killing machine especially in the WSM.
Antelope_Sniper
Handloader
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Wolfman, I used to shoot the old 130 and 150gr solid base out of my .270 with near identical points of impact. The 130 and 140gr BT's also shoot close enough for hunting purposes. This is with H4831. It's a very consistant power in the .270 Win. Every rifle is different, so just work up with each of your chosen bullets and see what your does, or does not like. As a bonus, it also shot the 150 Solid base, and the 150 Partitions in about the same hole.
