help with rifle choices

hunter1276

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i dont know anyone with either rifle to shoot to see which i like can only go by feel. im keeping my savage .223 for varmit, getting .270 for hog kk now on legacy they had a howa scope package for 577, or the weatherby vangaurd 2 scoped for 599 ehhh anyone know these 2 to gove me any idea how each shoot ? ima reload for them and scope not so important as ill prolly change but ............ just need idea on these 2 and you all have been around to know GEEZ high power rifle addictive ( and my archery lol) any help be appreciated i know some is preferance but im not a brand rider. except with my hunting bow LOL.
 
Howa makes the Vanguard for WBY, or at least they use to. I have a WBY Vanguard in 30-06 that's an extremely accurate rifle. I wouldn't have issues buying either rifle. Check the trigger when you get which ever one. The trigger on my Vanguard is the worst I've got from the factory, but it could use a little work to make it better.
 
What you should do is go to a large gunshop and physically handle each of the models you're considering. Shoulder them all, work all the bolts, etc. Find the one that fits you the best, feels the most natural, and seems to come up to your shoulder the easiest and most consistently. That's the rifle you should buy. Beyond that, chambering decisions are a whole different ballgame.

Any of the rifles you've mentioned so far are good rifles, but I have found the Tikka's do not fit me well, and thus, I don't own any. When I shoulder them, they just feel wrong, like wearing the wrong size shoe or something. My best hunting buddy has a Tikka in 300WSM and loves it, though. It is just about the only rifle he hunts with anymore. In fact, I helped him clean a white-tail he introduced to that Tikka just yesterday.
 
Any of the three rifles you named would serve you well. Richracer has given you excellent advice based on experience, as has dubyam. I have handled each of these rifles, working up loads for examples of each. The examples I've handled all shot acceptably and would be a worthy addition to any gun safe. There will be little aspects of any rifle that are less than pleasing, and many that please you. I believe dubyam is correct in encouraging you to go to a large gun store to handle examples of each of the rifles to see which fits you best. If you buy without handling, I don't doubt that you can adapt to any of the three. It is just a bonus to know ahead of time what you are getting.
 
You have whittled down your choices to three good rifles. I concur with all 3 above.
This is just excellent advise --> "What you should do is go to a large gunshop and physically handle each of the models you're considering."

You have to feel these rifles in your own hands... The Weatherby Vanguard Series 1 (I have one) is still on some store's shelves but the Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 is at many stores now as well. The extra $ for the Series 2 is well worth it if not for anything else, the new match-grade two stage trigger.

I wrote a review the other day for the Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 listed under Product Reviews if you want a little bit of information (some of it biased) :mrgreen:

Get excited and do some good research. Have fun!
338winmag
 
i wanna thank you all for your sound advise and time on this matter. i will do as such got to shoot a rem. with axiom stock in 300 win mag HEHE that stock is super nice hardly feel gun go off. ima make this gun i get a pet project. once again folks thanks ever so much. will let yun's know what i get.
 
We live in the golden age of rifles. We can realistically expect heretofore unheard of accuracy, reliable function, fit and finish. Lucky you! My .02 Look at a Savage and a Marlin bolt gun. They are what they are but reports are good. You also owe it to yourself to pick up a new Winchester and a classic Ruger. I havent mentioned Remington.....but millions of buyers cant all be wrong. CL
 
hunter1276":10458380 said:
i dont know anyone with either rifle to shoot to see which i like can only go by feel. im keeping my savage .223 for varmit, getting .270 for hog kk now on legacy they had a howa scope package for 577, or the weatherby vangaurd 2 scoped for 599 ehhh anyone know these 2 to gove me any idea how each shoot ? ima reload for them and scope not so important as ill prolly change but ............ just need idea on these 2 and you all have been around to know GEEZ high power rifle addictive ( and my archery lol) any help be appreciated i know some is preferance but im not a brand rider. except with my hunting bow LOL.

If you don't have experience with these two why limit yourself to just these two?

My advice would be to get to the largest gun store you can stand driving to and touch, feel, hold, shoulder anything that sparks an interest. The other benefit is they may have a big selection of used rifles and one just might fit your application and reach, cheek, shoulder and wallet like a glove.
 
Your rifle choise can indeed be a real delemma if you dont already have a preferance but really in todays world I dont think that you can go wrong with almost any new rifle, however, if I can ask, why are you going with a 270 Win. most of the guys that I know who hunt hogs allot use larger cal. bullets, IE heavy bullets for cal. to get past the layer of heavy grissel arround the shoulder that the big hogs sometimes have.

Have you maybe thought about a 338 federal or even a 35 Whelen. Not that there is anything wrong with a 270 but sometimes a little more is allot better.....just a thought.
 
dubyam":18z8neac said:
What you should do is go to a large gunshop and physically handle each of the models you're considering. Shoulder them all, work all the bolts, etc. Find the one that fits you the best, feels the most natural, and seems to come up to your shoulder the easiest and most consistently. That's the rifle you should buy. Beyond that, chambering decisions are a whole different ballgame.

Any of the rifles you've mentioned so far are good rifles, but I have found the Tikka's do not fit me well, and thus, I don't own any. When I shoulder them, they just feel wrong, like wearing the wrong size shoe or something. My best hunting buddy has a Tikka in 300WSM and loves it, though. It is just about the only rifle he hunts with anymore. In fact, I helped him clean a white-tail he introduced to that Tikka just yesterday.

Excellent advise and I agree with everything stated

I will add that the 270 is a fine choice, if you want to keep it simple but go up a bit in caliber the 30-06 has done it all for a long time. I have grown fond of the 257 and 340 WBY a combination that allows you to hunt almost everything
 
ive taken a hog here in ohio with .223 local sheriff sharp shooter loaded for me. hit behind shoulder and blew lungs. ran prolly 50 yards and piled was a 256 lb. heh not bad considering ive taken them with bows and had them go same distance or shorter. only 30-06 ive shot was OLDER rem. 700 friend has (was a mounted sheriff) now has parkinsons sad to see him as such. was so smooth to shoot, kinda like the all round of a .270 SO MANY calibers out there. and so little time lol. thanks guys
 
There are lots of good options available for the kind of money you are talking about.

First, you might want to consider a .30-06 instead of a .270 Win. Nothing wrong with the .270 for your purpose of killing hogs but you will find there is a lot of relatively inexpensive ammo for the .30-06, not so much for the .270 Win. A .308 Win would also be an excellent choice for the same reason.

Second, you might want to consider used rifles. You can often get a lot more for your money by purchasing used. A few years back I purchased a beautiful but used 1975 Rem M700 BDL that was in great condition. Cost me $350 and first trip to the range it shot the target below:
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Most "package" scopes are functional but you can usually do better buying one separately. I tend to go with Burris Fullfield II scopes with the Ballistic Plex reticle, which allows me to shoot out to 600 yards pretty easily. You can find 3-9x on eBay for around $150-$160 new with a lifetime warranty.

As to rifles, my preference runs to Ruger and they come with the scope rings. Nothing wrong with Howa or Weatherby Vanguards, though.

Take your time deciding - attend gun shows, dealers with lots of inventory to handle, etc. The decision-making process can be a lot of fun and you can learn a lot in the process. And good luck!
 
Good advice, CH. Nothing wrong with that target either. That is a rifle that will make an owner proud.
 
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