If H4350 doesn't work...

[wisconsinteacher]

Then what for the 30-06 with 165 PT? IMR4350 or RL19? This weekend I am going to give H4350 one more try with my father-in-laws 30-06. The best 3 shot group was .968" but there was a touch of bolt lift. I am wondering if it is time to try a new powder. What would you try first?

 

[wildgene]

...I've always had pretty good luck w/ IMR-4350 in the '06, RL-22 is another good choice for the 165's...

 

[SJB358]

Rl19 and IMR4350 should work fine as well. I'd give them a try.

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler PART SP 16330
Useable Case Capaci: 62.001 grain H2O = 4.026 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-19

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 49.60 2321 1974 29813 7761 84.3 1.511
-18.0 89 50.84 2381 2077 31861 8039 85.8 1.470
-16.0 91 52.08 2441 2184 34051 8311 87.2 1.430
-14.0 93 53.32 2502 2294 36400 8578 88.6 1.391
-12.0 95 54.56 2563 2408 38922 8836 89.9 1.349
-10.0 98 55.80 2625 2524 41628 9087 91.1 1.307
-08.0 100 57.04 2687 2645 44539 9328 92.3 1.267
-06.0 102 58.28 2749 2768 47670 9558 93.4 1.228
-04.0 104 59.52 2811 2895 51042 9776 94.4 1.191
-02.0 106 60.76 2873 3024 54683 9982 95.4 1.154
+00.0 108 62.00 2936 3157 58614 10174 96.2 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 63.24 2998 3294 62867 10350 97.0 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 113 64.48 3061 3433 67467 10511 97.7 1.052 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 65.72 3124 3575 72478 10654 98.3 1.020 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 66.96 3186 3720 77918 10778 98.8 0.989 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 68.20 3249 3868 83848 10883 99.3 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 62.00 3088 3495 70668 10174 99.7 1.036 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 62.00 2738 2746 47903 9656 88.8 1.225


Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 165, Nosler PART SP 16330
Useable Case Capaci: 62.001 grain H2O = 4.026 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 84 48.00 2356 2034 32554 7542 88.4 1.469
-18.0 87 49.20 2413 2134 34757 7780 89.7 1.429
-16.0 89 50.40 2471 2237 37110 8013 90.9 1.391
-14.0 91 51.60 2529 2343 39623 8238 92.0 1.349
-12.0 93 52.80 2586 2451 42313 8455 93.1 1.309
-10.0 95 54.00 2644 2561 45190 8663 94.0 1.270
-08.0 97 55.20 2702 2674 48269 8861 95.0 1.233
-06.0 99 56.40 2759 2789 51545 9049 95.8 1.196
-04.0 101 57.60 2817 2907 55034 9225 96.6 1.162
-02.0 103 58.80 2874 3027 58773 9390 97.3 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 60.00 2932 3149 62782 9541 97.9 1.096 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 61.20 2989 3274 67086 9678 98.5 1.065 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 62.40 3046 3400 71713 9801 98.9 1.035 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 112 63.60 3103 3529 76692 9908 99.3 1.006 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 114 64.80 3160 3659 82058 9999 99.6 0.978 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 116 66.00 3217 3791 87852 10073 99.8 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 60.00 3059 3428 74201 9383 100.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 60.00 2762 2794 51657 9255 92.1 1.192

 

[sask boy]

My Buddy has been loading for his 06 for years and he uses IMR4350 I am not sure of the load or what bullet weight he is using.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[truck driver]

Not to sound smart but was wondering if you had giving it a good cleaning to get the copper out of the barrel? I use IMR 4350 in most of my loads and started to look else wheres but noticed copper fouling in the barrel and decided to use some copper cleaner in to see if that would help problem is I haven't been able to get out to shoot it to see if it helped. So I'm a good one to give advise.

 

[FOTIS]

RL-17

 

[SJB358]

RL-17

I was going to say that but I imagine you all are tired of hearing it! Ha

 

[Guy Miner]

Well, the .30-06 has been around for over 100 years, so there are a few powders that have worked out well.... :grin:

I've had great results from H4350, IMR 4350, H4831, Ramshot Hunter, RL-22... My favorite being H4350, but if it didn't work out, I'd switch to something else in a heartbeat.

 

[6mm Remington]

I have used nothing but IMR4350 in two 30-06 rifles with 165 gr. Partitions and Accubonds and had great success. 57.4 grs. of IMR4350 - Fed 210 primer - Winchester brass

 

[Vince]

I've only loaded one bullet and powder for my 30-06 but it was a "hit" out of the gate and subsequent shooting sessions have reinforced that.
All my friends said, "IMR 4350" so for a change I decided to listen to the prevailing wisdom and used that powder instead of searching for something else. I'm glad I did.
Good luck finding a load that shoots to your satisfaction.

Vince

 

[big rifle man]

I used IMR4064 on many occasions with a 165 grain bullet in the 06 and had no problems with accuracy and velocity.

 

[DrMike]

The great thing about the 30-06 is that it isn't terribly fussy about powders. The problem is that about any medium burn rate powder will deliver acceptable velocity/accuracy with little tweaking.

 

[Elkman]

I would try, IMR - 4064 or 4895. I always loaded those for the light bullets, and H- 4831 for the heavier ones.

 

[ScreaminEagle]

IMR 4350 and the '06 were made for each other

 

[Sas874runner]

Rl 17,19,22 ramshot big game and Hunter. W760. I have had good luck with all of these

 

[Alderman]

Another vote for IMR 4064

 

[JD338]

IMR 4350 was always my go to powder. IMR 4064 would also be a good powder to look at.

JD338

 

[OU812]

I use IMR-4350 and IMR-4064 with 165's with great results.

 

[joelkdouglas]

For 165/168s, around 57-58 grains of IMR4350 with a CCI primer has worked best for me.

 

[FOTIS]

IMR 4350 was always my go to powder. IMR 4064 would also be a good powder to look at.

JD338

YUP!

'06 not liking 4350 is like a fat chick that won't eat cake..... :mrgreen: