I'll Say it - Noslers ROCK !

[Powerstroke]

I was able to get my .300RUM dialed in fairly good last week - it's been the back-up gun that has been an issue.
I've been wanting to use the .257Bee, but since the stock change the 110gr Accubonds haven't done that well for me.
I grabbed a box of 115 NBT and pushed the IMR 7828 to the side that I've been using.

There is definately a reason Nosler lists a specific load *Most Accurate Tested*
It is now RL-25 ( of which nothing else I have uses ) and 115gr NBT's

I also loaded some 180gr NBTs to compare POI with to the 180gr Accubonds - The RUM is ready :grin:
We won't talk about the furthest one out - pulled it hard - I can live with the other four.

First pic is the .257 Bee - then the RUM ( Also sighted in the better half's .260 w/ 130gr Accubonds - normal with it, 1.25 to 1.50 groups. Tried the partitions which didn't go so well.

 

[JD338]

Nice shooting. You are there!

JD338

 

[DrMike]

I'd say that these rifles are ready to rock. With those loads you are set for about anything you will encounter.

 

[Songdog]

I do love me a good 115 NBT load... Critters should be worried about that load for a loooong ways!

Seen what happens when 180 NBT out of the RUM hits furry stuff... ain't pretty, unless you like very dead critters and exit wounds the size of baseballs (I do, I do!).

 

[SJB358]

Great groups Mark. Looks like you are in there with both of them. Is it going to be a Ballistic Tip season for you? Those are some great shooting rifles. Makes me wanna mess with the 180gr BT's again in my 300 Win Mag. Scotty

 

[6mm Remington]

Powerstroke,
Sure looks like you are dialed in and the critters are in serious danger. Too bad I didn't know you liked the .257 115 gr. Ballistic Tips in your Bee. I had a box that has just been sitting around. I have been using nothing but 120 Partitions in my wife's rifle, but now that the 110 AccuBond is out, I want to load it and maybe just stick with it if it shoots great. I just haven't had enough time to load them up to try. I sold the Ballistic Tips to a guy here at work for $10.00 and I saw yesterday at the store they went for $19.00.

You mention in you snipit at the botom of your messages, I wonder how they get the teflon to stick to teflon free pots and pans, or something similar. To think of it, that's quite amazing. Now how about this, maybe they could use some of that teflon to coat the insides of our stomachs so not quite as much of the calorie's get by and then settle in our guts and hips, yet still allow the nutrients to pass by! :wink:

 

[Powerstroke]

Songdog -
One would certialy think that - however I had a follow up shot on a cow elk a few years back if I remember correctly around 40yds or so - that bullet caught a little shoulder, but not much and did not exit.

Scotty -
Nope - the RUM will be launching Accubonds. I've never had good luck getting Accubonds vs NBT's to shoot in the same place - Figured I'd get a little more trigger time and having a hard time finding Accubonds right now. I had a box of NBT's and figured what the heck.
Good to know they can pretty much be interchanged - the NBT's shoot about an inch lower.


6mm

I purchased the .257 as a SPS model then had to go change things - I found a laminate Remington stock and had it pillar bedded. It "used" to shoot the 110 Accubonds very well - since the stock change they went south in a hurry with several different powders. Figured the 115 NBT would be the next best thing :grin: I see some yotes not liking it so well this winter.

And no doubt about the Teflon.

 

[Songdog]

Songdog -
One would certialy think that - however I had a follow up shot on a cow elk a few years back if I remember correctly around 40yds or so - that bullet caught a little shoulder, but not much and did not exit.

I've only seen about half-dozen elk, 10 or so deer, and a handfull of bears shot with the 180 NBT via the .300 RUM (and the .300 Roy)... ain't seen one retained yet. I reckon at close range you may be able to keep one in an elk... though it's probably a coin flip.

I'm really digging that 115 NBT load though... had a .25-06AI a couple years back that would scoot them at 3400... it was hell on wheels. I distincly remember a very unlucky rockchuck that was first to receive one... I think he needed a pilots lisence.

 

[FOTIS]

Looks like you're ready Power. Go get them!

 

[6mm Remington]

Songdog -
I purchased the .257 as a SPS model then had to go change things - I found a laminate Remington stock and had it pillar bedded. It "used" to shoot the 110 Accubonds very well - since the stock change they went south in a hurry with several different powders. Figured the 115 NBT would be the next best thing :grin: I see some yotes not liking it so well this winter.And no doubt about the Teflon.

Isn't it funny what changes we can make in a rifle really effect later on what it likes and what it shoots? Just like you rifle for an instance. If you really try some more you might evenutally find that sweet spot and get those Accubonds to shoot, but it might take some time to make it happen. just by getting the rifle bedded correctly completely changed the harmonics in the barrel and what was once a fine shooter went to heck on you. I guess that is one more reason I am a believer in having my wood stocked rifles, even laminates pillar and glass bedded before I ever try working up the loads. I want the barrel and action sitting in there nice and snug before I waste a bunch of time messing with working up a load when it could very well change after I had just spent all that time and money. Make the stock right before you start your work even if you have the patience like I do, which is none! I did the same thing with my .280 MTN rifle and put about 100 rounds through it and had a great load. I was taking it to my gunsmith after having used it for a season so I could then have it glass bedded. Guess what, too late, the powder puff .280 had split the stock in the tang behind the rear action screw. It was my fault and mine alone.

One thing my smith told me to do was to fire at least 100 rounds in the rifle before I had him adjust the trigger. That way he could see where metal was rubbing and touching and it gave him a lot better idea where to go from there. If he is given a trigger that has not had that many rounds through it, it's a lot harder to figure how much to hone, where to hone and adjust, and to work his magic. So I did not just waste time and money shooting bullets, I got some of those dummy rounds with the spring loaded primers in butt and sat and dry fired it at the tv (making absolutely certain that the round and the only round I was doing this with was as dummy round.) for a couple hundred shots or so. Killed two birds with one stone. The smith could see where metal to metal was happening, and I got some trigger time, and any trigger time is good trigger time. These dummy rounds made by A-ZOOM are a dark copper color with a bullet that looks the sAme. They DO NOT LOOK like a real loaded cartridge as the color and everything is a definite give-away. They also do not obviously have poweder in them so they feel lighter, and the primer just doesn't look like a primer. They come in two packs and they say each one is goof for about 1000 firings or more which is a lot. Dry firing (safely) is excellent practice to keep that trigger pull just right and to practice your follow-through! They come in both rifle and pistol, and they feed like a real round. What is nice and is a trick to help you really settle and follow through with your shots is to load a pistol magazine or your rifle with a mixture of live rounds sand some of these dummy rounds and try not to pay attention to how you load them so you don't know what's going to happen when you pull the trigger. It can be an eye opener if you are flinching just a bit, and after a while, you will se vast improvements. When you fire a dummy round and it goes click and your sight stays right on target, you know you have made practice. This is good for anyone young or old to help them learn to concentrate. The concentration will also help them to forget about the recoil that is just about to come.
Hope some of this helps.

David.