Is the Rim Fire Now a Has Been??

[meatmachineman]

Don't know Charlie... we, as a nation, didn't learn our collective lesson the first time around. I'm getting more and more pessimistic. Just speaking on ammo, though, I've bought about 2500 rounds in the last month and sold 1k of em to a friend of mine.... and did so with a fair amount of confidence that I'll be getting more soon. I'm not immediately worried, anyhow. I've got about 6k still in the ammo cabinet.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Three .22 LR groups at 50 yards fired from front rest and CZ 453 rifle with high velocity ammo. Kind of windy today and groups show it.

 

[SJB358]

Looks pretty good for the first run Charlie. Plenty to pop squirrels in the noggin.

 

[Oldtrader3]

Popping squirrels in the noggin should be the easier job for this rifle at 20 yards, Scotty!

 

[FOTIS]

INPUT:

CCI is about to flood the market with Billions of 22 lr's very soon Sept to Oct.


That said my 223 with 35 gr hornet v-max bullet with a few grains of Red dot will double as a 22lr just fine. Ditto for a 22 Hornet.

Cartridge          : .223 Rem.
Bullet             : .224, 35, Hornady V-MAX 22252
Useable Case Capaci: 28.640 grain H2O = 1.860 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant RED DOT

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   30     4.00   1878     274   12559   1588    100.0    1.696
-18.0   31     4.10   1907     283   13126   1620    100.0    1.628
-16.0   32     4.20   1935     291   13671   1652    100.0    1.575
-14.0   33     4.30   1961     299   14206   1684    100.0    1.532
-12.0   33     4.40   1987     307   14735   1717    100.0    1.495
-10.0   34     4.50   2012     315   15263   1750    100.0    1.462
-08.0   35     4.60   2037     322   15791   1782    100.0    1.432
-06.0   36     4.70   2061     330   16319   1815    100.0    1.405
-04.0   37     4.80   2084     338   16850   1848    100.0    1.380
-02.0   37     4.90   2108     345   17383   1881    100.0    1.357
+00.0   38     5.00   2131     353   17918   1913    100.0    1.335
+02.0   39     5.10   2153     360   18457   1946    100.0    1.315
+04.0   40     5.20   2175     368   18998   1979    100.0    1.296
+06.0   40     5.30   2197     375   19544   2011    100.0    1.278
+08.0   41     5.40   2219     383   20092   2044    100.0    1.261
+10.0   42     5.50   2240     390   20644   2076    100.0    1.245

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     38     5.00   2138     355   18538   1906    100.0    1.320
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     38     5.00   2122     350   17250   1922    100.0    1.353

 

[FOTIS]

so will my 17 Hornet!

Cartridge          : .17 Hornet (Hornady)
Bullet             : .172, 20, Hornady V-MAX 21710
Useable Case Capaci: 12.028 grain H2O = 0.781 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.723 inch = 43.76 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant RED DOT

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   29     1.60   1622     117    9185   1124    100.0    2.236
-18.0   30     1.64   1666     123   10139   1132    100.0    1.948
-16.0   30     1.68   1696     128   10714   1151    100.0    1.843
-14.0   31     1.72   1722     132   11223   1172    100.0    1.772
-12.0   32     1.76   1748     136   11707   1193    100.0    1.716
-10.0   33     1.80   1772     139   12177   1215    100.0    1.670
-08.0   33     1.84   1795     143   12642   1237    100.0    1.630
-06.0   34     1.88   1818     147   13103   1259    100.0    1.594
-04.0   35     1.92   1841     150   13563   1282    100.0    1.562
-02.0   36     1.96   1863     154   14024   1304    100.0    1.533
+00.0   36     2.00   1884     158   14485   1327    100.0    1.506
+02.0   37     2.04   1905     161   14948   1349    100.0    1.481
+04.0   38     2.08   1926     165   15413   1372    100.0    1.458
+06.0   38     2.12   1947     168   15881   1394    100.0    1.436
+08.0   39     2.16   1967     172   16351   1417    100.0    1.415
+10.0   40     2.20   1987     175   16825   1439    100.0    1.396

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     36     2.00   1893     159   15116   1319    100.0    1.487
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     36     2.00   1874     156   13818   1336    100.0    1.529

 

[SJB358]

Good point Fotis. Don't own a 223, but I wouldn't mind having a fast twist bolt gun to monkey with.

 

[FOTIS]

Got a 223 Savage 11F. Cheap and super accurate

 

[SJB358]

Got a 223 Savage 11F. Cheap and super accurate

What's the twist on em?

 

[taylorce1]

Luckily I've been able to acquire over 4K rounds of .22 LR and about 1.5K .22 WMR before the prices skyrocketed. I'm still sitting pretty as far as plinking ammunition goes. However I'm running short on the ammunition my Wife and Daughter's matching Sig Sauer Mosquitos likes to eat.