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It's gonna be a custom
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I'd be pretty happy with either a 22" or a 24 in an '06...I think with modern powder you're not really talking about that much difference.
The Zeiss is a perfect match for the rifle. I've got a 3-9x Zeiss on mine and it's been great.
The Zeiss is a perfect match for the rifle. I've got a 3-9x Zeiss on mine and it's been great.
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AJ, I love good iron sights. The chances are slim I'd ever need them, but I've seen scope fail where a decent set of sights would have kept the hunter in the hunt. It's better to have options than to deal with a fogged or broken scope, miles from the truck and realize your extra rifle is one day of hunting time away. Of course you need to have them zeroed and ready but they are a good insurance policy.
I plan on adding some sights to my 35 Newton in the future. I think it just makes sense for a hard hunting rifle. Just my opinion though.
I plan on adding some sights to my 35 Newton in the future. I think it just makes sense for a hard hunting rifle. Just my opinion though.
being a custom it will probably be a go-to gun for you so the insurance of iron sights would be beneficial i would think
my 338-06 will sport them just for a change of pace for myself, it will look nicer with them, and also when it does have a scope down the road it will be nice to know i have the iron as back-up if needed
my 338-06 will sport them just for a change of pace for myself, it will look nicer with them, and also when it does have a scope down the road it will be nice to know i have the iron as back-up if needed
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Thanks for the solid recommendations. I am trained on iron sights thanks to the Corps, and they will have a place on my rifle. Just like you have said, having them as backup in case the scope goes down is worth it in my book.
I am really leaning towards a 24" barrel, but if the 22" works so be it. The Outfitter rifle is really getting the nod.
I am really leaning towards a 24" barrel, but if the 22" works so be it. The Outfitter rifle is really getting the nod.
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I love a good set of irons on a rifle...but not if I'm going to mostly shoot with a scope on it. If it has sights I'm pleased but I realize there is a compromise to be made.
Too me the idea of "back up irons" is wonderful- but in reality a stock that fits right with a scope will not be very good with irons and vice versa. Most modern rifles have little drop in the butt to accommodate a cheek weld with a scope. My Scout features a great back up ghost ring...but I can't get my head far enough down on the stock to really use it well.
Modern scopes are pretty darn good in almost every regard- including reliability.
Too me the idea of "back up irons" is wonderful- but in reality a stock that fits right with a scope will not be very good with irons and vice versa. Most modern rifles have little drop in the butt to accommodate a cheek weld with a scope. My Scout features a great back up ghost ring...but I can't get my head far enough down on the stock to really use it well.
Modern scopes are pretty darn good in almost every regard- including reliability.
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You can also have sights added after the fact. NECG seems like a great place to look and they are very friendly on the phone. I spent 20 minutes speaking with them the other day and they were great. Pretty reasonable price as well. Plus, if you send them the rifle, they will regulate the front sight for you with whatever rear sight you wanna use. They also have adjustable front sights as well, so there are some great option.
Hodgeman is right though, most good scopes are tough.. Just my brain workings, 2 is 1 and 1 is none..
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Several of my rifles have both a scope and sights. Nice backup, but I can't remember a time when it's ever been necessary for me to strip off the scope and hunt with sights...
.30-30 Marlin/Glenfield has factory sights and a 2.5x Leupold. That's one tough little scope so I doubt I'll ever have to go back to the factory sights. The stock is really at it's best with sights though, not the scope.
.375 Number One has the factory sights and a 1.5-5x scope. Works okay with either. Seems to me that the stock fits me best when using the factory sights rather than the scope.
.375 Model 70 has sights and a scope. Not enough time with this one to tell... The sights are very useful though. First shot it with 300 gr ammo and the factory sights at modest range. They worked well.
Only a few of my mule deer have been taken with sights. Two from a traditional muzzle loader, one with my .44 mag handgun, and of course I've had to dispatch a lot of deer here in town, using my .45 1911 or the AR-15. Iron sights for all those.
FWIW, Guy
.30-30 Marlin/Glenfield has factory sights and a 2.5x Leupold. That's one tough little scope so I doubt I'll ever have to go back to the factory sights. The stock is really at it's best with sights though, not the scope.
.375 Number One has the factory sights and a 1.5-5x scope. Works okay with either. Seems to me that the stock fits me best when using the factory sights rather than the scope.
.375 Model 70 has sights and a scope. Not enough time with this one to tell... The sights are very useful though. First shot it with 300 gr ammo and the factory sights at modest range. They worked well.
Only a few of my mule deer have been taken with sights. Two from a traditional muzzle loader, one with my .44 mag handgun, and of course I've had to dispatch a lot of deer here in town, using my .45 1911 or the AR-15. Iron sights for all those.
FWIW, Guy
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Re the barrel length, we've got two .30-06's here now.
The 1917 had a 26" barrel, chopped to 21" and it's a much handier hunting rifle as a result. But... the 165's exit the barrel at the same speed my 24" .308 Win sends them, about 2750 fps. No problem, my son made a first round hit on the bear at 320 yards, but if you want big numbers on the chronograph, the shorter barrel might not be the best way to go.
I like the 24" barrel on my new CDL. Haven't run the ammo over the chronograph with it, but it feels good, and I like the way it handles. When I replace the barrel on the 1917, it will likely be with a 24" tube.
FWIW, Guy
The 1917 had a 26" barrel, chopped to 21" and it's a much handier hunting rifle as a result. But... the 165's exit the barrel at the same speed my 24" .308 Win sends them, about 2750 fps. No problem, my son made a first round hit on the bear at 320 yards, but if you want big numbers on the chronograph, the shorter barrel might not be the best way to go.
I like the 24" barrel on my new CDL. Haven't run the ammo over the chronograph with it, but it feels good, and I like the way it handles. When I replace the barrel on the 1917, it will likely be with a 24" tube.
FWIW, Guy
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Few of my bolt action rifles have iron sights. If it came down to that, I would have to be pretty close in any case. I've never had a scope fail in the field. I understand that it only takes once, but the quality of scope manufacturing today makes that less of a concern.
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I think I will forego iron sights for now. As Scotty said I can always add them later on.
With that being said the Professional rifle is at the top of the list.
But....appearently Nosler is coming out with a few new rifles soon, and its got me very anxious. If its anything like a stainless versions of the TGR coming out, my decision would be made. I think I would gladly fork over a few more dollars for a stainless version of the TGR.
With that being said the Professional rifle is at the top of the list.
But....appearently Nosler is coming out with a few new rifles soon, and its got me very anxious. If its anything like a stainless versions of the TGR coming out, my decision would be made. I think I would gladly fork over a few more dollars for a stainless version of the TGR.
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You might want to communicate with Shawn to see if he can give you some insight into what is coming down the pike.
