Kimber Caprivi 458 LOTT

[LD375]

I was just wondering if anyone has shot this rifle in 458 LOTT, I'm thinking of getting my paws on one, and just wanted some feed back, so far I've read up on some mixed reviews.

Thanks,
Lou

 

[Elkman]

I was just wondering if anyone has shot this rifle in 458 LOTT,

Lou, I have never shot "anything" in a 458 lot, I treasure what few working body parts I still have. My hats off to you bigbore guys. Good luck.

 

[Vince]

I was just wondering if anyone has shot this rifle in 458 LOTT,

Lou, I have never shot "anything" in a 458 lot, I treasure what few working body parts I still have. My hats off to you bigbore guys. Good luck.

I've not shot one, yet, but I covet a .416 Rigby.

 

[longrangehunter]

I was just wondering if anyone has shot this rifle in 458 LOTT,

Lou, I have never shot "anything" in a 458 lot, I treasure what few working body parts I still have. My hats off to you bigbore guys. Good luck.

I've not shot one, yet, but I covet a .416 Rigby.

Honestly off hand shots are really not a big deal once you get used to shooting a big bore, but developing loads I used a Lead Sled and mounted a scope.

I have a 9 lbs. Brno 602 458 Lott conversion from Lon Paul. It has a mercury recoil reducer in the stock and yet is comfortable to carry all day and shot when needed. It's not like you might think?

My best load(s) uses a 500 Speer African Grand Slam (I still have a few hundred, but they are no longer made) and the Woodleigh 500 FMJ. Both bullets are seated behind 76.0 grains of VV N135 w/WLRM primers, the Speer AGS use A-Square Brass and the Woodleigh bullets I use Hornady brass. This powder gave very low ES of 13.50-.90 and SD in the 5's @ 2150 fps with groups just over an inch-1.75" @ 50 yards off hand using iron sights. Just takes some practice.

 

[HOGWILD338-378]

FOTIS will buy it if ya do not like it so I say go for it ! :lol:
Never shot anything bigger than a braked 338-378 but I see it's a sweet looking Rifle and not many animals would soak up too many of them as long as you did your part!

 

[LD375]

I see it's a sweet looking Rifle and not many animals would soak up too many of them as long as you did your part!

Terry, I have no worries at all about any of the big bores pal, and don't need any braked rifle or led sled, these broad shoulders can absorb a lot of recoil, trust me :wink:

Lou

 

[BK]

FOTIS will buy it if ya do not like it so I say go for!

I seem to recall Fotis has lost at Kimber Roulette a couple of times, so I'm not too sure he'd be interested.

I think a Lott in a Model 70 would be something I'd like to have... After a .375 H&H and .416 RM...

 

[HOGWILD338-378]

Lou I suppose the Sako 85 Safari's are just not in a caliber that does much for ya or is twist rate on them that does not work? I know very little on the 4 calibers offered but I could not afford 1 anyway and if I could it would limit my annual purchase situation too much and it would offend the PDog population around here as well ! 500 Jeffery sounds expensive !

I has to post this as it comes with 2 barrels :mrgreen:
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[SJB358]

What have you found Lou? You could always load it to Win Mag levels. Seems like the Win Mag has worked the world around a few times..

They are beauties though...

 

[BK]

Honestly Scotty, if... okay, when, I get a .458 Win/Lott it will probably get fed a steady diet of .45-70 level loads, cast even. Expensive bullets, and I'm getting too old and frail to get in an MMA fight with my rifles on a regular basis.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I don't know about Sako not doing the .458 Lott but I am sure that a Sako .416 Rigby would do the job?

 

[SJB358]

Who builds rifles for the 450 Rigby. Lou probably needs a couple of them. Ha!

 

[LD375]

I don't know about Sako not doing the .458 Lott but I am sure that a Sako .416 Rigby would do the job?

Hi Charlie, yah, the .416 Rigby in the Sako has crossed my mind, and I'm looking into it,
Lou

 

[Oldtrader3]

It sure would, Lou. The Sako gets high marks for sticking with an oldie but goodie in the .416.

 

[Guy Miner]

Lou, do you have the American Rifleman article from two years ago when they tested the Kimber, chambered for .458 Lott?

Guy

 

[LD375]

Lou, do you have the American Rifleman article from two years ago when they tested the Kimber, chambered for .458 Lott?

Guy

Hi Guy, no I don't have or read that article?..What gives Pal?

Lou

 

[Guy Miner]

It appears that the American Rifleman articles are not avail on line, not the archived articles anyway. I'll put a few excerpts here, and if you want, I'll just mail you the actual magazine.

Aug 2012, Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editor in Chief wrote a good article about the .30-06 Kimber and the .458 Lott Kimber. He set them up, sighted them in, tested them, and took them to Africa.

"Beauty & The Beast, a Pair of Kimbers"

The rifles didn't catch up to him until his Safari was nearly over, he ended up taking an elephant with a Kimber in .416 Remington, but he did have quite a bit of good to say about both the .30-06 and .458 Kimbers.

"It was the power of the .458 Lott cartridge that drew me to choose it, as it is a considerable step up in power from the .458 Win Mag. Based on the .375 H&H Mag case and introduced in 1956, the .458 Win Mag has a belted case tapering from 0.513" ahead of the belt to 0.483" at the case mouth. Factory tables, likely exaggerated at the time, originally quoted the cartridge as moving a .458", 510 grain bullet at about 2130 fps through a 24" barreled rifle."

He discusses how Jacque P. Lott was almost killed in 1959 when a .458 Win Mag failed to perform as expected on a Cape Buffalo and how that incident set him to creating the .458 Lott.

"According to its factory data, Federal Premium Safari Ammunition's 500 gr Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer .458 Lott loading delivers 2300 fps at the muzzle and 5,875 ft lbs of energy.

"I fired more than 80 rounds of .458 Lott and another 60 of .458 Win Mag. I knew the rifle well." (OUCH!)

"It delivered a 1.17" group at 100 yds"

"Off the sticks at 50 yds, I could keep three shots within 4" while working the bolt with alacrity."

He used the old quote "It's unpleasant, just like the man who made it." Referring to the cartridge.

Comparing it to other .458 Lott rifles he's used: "... the Caprivi is the one that handles the recoil best, points most naturally, shoulders quickly and is utterly reliable."

"Kimber describes the chamber as "match grade" and indeed the rifle was more accurate than it will need to be in the field. There are aluminum pillars for the two stock screws, the barrel is free floated, and the receiver is bedded its entire length."

"The stock has excellent lines and ergonomics, a blend of vintage English Mauser 98 based rifles and classic American lines. On the stock's left is a pancake-style cheekpiece and its pistol grip has an open radius, which keeps the knuckles from rapping the trigger guard under recoil. There is a 1" thick Pachmayer XL Decelerator recoil pad with plenty of surface area to spread out the Lott's considerable recoil."

Seems the author was very impressed with the Caprivi, and disappointed that he didn't get to hunt with it. I can mail you the magazine article if you'd like.

Regards, Guy

 

[SJB358]

Wow, that sounds like a great review. They are some really beautiful rifles though. Never fired one, but Kimber made them very nice, that is for sure.

 

[LD375]

Thanks Guy, that's very kind of you, and also a good read as well ..My local gun shop has 1 in .375 H&H, I'm gonna go check it out myself and see how it fits and feels, If I like it, I might just go ahead and get him to order me 1 in the .458 Lott :twisted: :wink:

Thanks a LOTT :lol: :wink:

Lou