Loads for the 404 Jeffery

c. schutte

Handloader
Jan 24, 2012
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It's pretty early and I am perhaps a year from needing this. However, looking for some load info and it is not easy to find. From my reading IMR 4831 appears to be a good choice?

Barrel length 24", 1:12
bullet; 400 grain NF
IMR 4831?? or better......

Pressure levels: I would max out around 55 to 57K, maybe even 54K. Since this would go to Africa there is no reason to run pressures in the 60K range.

Thanks..........
 
Only .423 NorthFork listed was the 380, so I used that

Code:
Cartridge          : .404 Riml.NE (Jeffery, 10.75x73)
Bullet             : .423, 380, NorthFork BondedCore
Useable Case Capaci: 87.177 grain H2O = 5.660 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.530 inch = 89.66 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 56000 psi, or 386 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

14 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  103.3     87.1     5.64    2568   100.0    56001    8176   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 102.4     86.3     5.60    2553   100.0    56001    8132   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           102.4     86.3     5.60    2553   100.0    56001    8132   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  109.3     93.6     6.06    2536    97.1    56001    8684   1.232  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 110.0     86.1     5.58    2536    99.8    55898    8013   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  106.8     89.9     5.83    2534    99.2    56001    8171   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       110.0     87.9     5.70    2531   100.0    55078    7753   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                103.9     88.9     5.76    2513    98.0    56001    8190   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                108.1     89.7     5.81    2513    97.7    56001    8222   1.242  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     107.3     89.1     5.77    2512    98.0    56001    8178   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      106.7     85.7     5.55    2505    99.3    56001    7915   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          107.0     85.0     5.51    2504    99.3    56001    7917   1.250  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     101.4     86.2     5.58    2504    97.3    56001    8111   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       101.4     86.2     5.58    2504    97.3    56001    8111   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         107.0     85.1     5.51    2504    99.3    56001    7914   1.250  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                 110.0     95.0     6.16    2503    98.0    48742    9007   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    103.7     85.2     5.52    2502    99.2    56001    8014   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   97.3     80.7     5.23    2489   100.0    56001    7421   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                   99.7     82.7     5.36    2486    99.8    56001    7630   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                      91.0     81.5     5.28    2481    99.9    56001    7526   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    96.5     82.6     5.35    2480    99.8    56001    7540   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                109.9     85.4     5.53    2474    99.9    56001    7314   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            95.7     76.9     4.98    2469    99.9    56001    7511   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        110.0     87.9     5.70    2468    94.6    55225    8067   1.250  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          105.6     87.7     5.68    2467    94.9    56001    7946   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          109.1     87.7     5.68    2467    94.9    56001    7946   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        109.1     87.7     5.68    2467    94.9    56001    7946   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       91.4     80.2     5.20    2462   100.0    56001    7358   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          110.0     92.2     5.98    2461    95.1    48667    8702   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       98.9     80.3     5.20    2461   100.0    56001    7357   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          98.9     80.3     5.20    2461   100.0    56001    7357   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       106.8     87.1     5.64    2461    96.8    56001    7783   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          97.0     78.0     5.05    2460    99.8    56001    7428   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        96.5     77.5     5.02    2459    99.7    56001    7467   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  96.5     77.5     5.02    2459    99.7    56001    7467   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          96.5     77.5     5.02    2459    99.7    56001    7467   1.270  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      101.1     80.4     5.21    2454   100.0    56001    7287   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 110.0     88.4     5.73    2454    94.5    53191    8096   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      88.8     76.8     4.98    2453   100.0    56001    7047   1.264  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        97.9     80.4     5.21    2450    99.0    56001    7542   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         105.6     84.0     5.44    2446    97.3    56001    7656   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   91.5     78.6     5.09    2445    99.8    56001    7307   1.267  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                       100.8     79.2     5.13    2445    99.9    56001    7276   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            98.4     77.8     5.04    2444    99.8    56001    7196   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             109.7     92.9     6.02    2443    94.6    56001    7747   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       92.8     74.6     4.84    2442   100.0    56001    7222   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                 94.2     80.6     5.23    2440    98.9    56001    7435   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                        93.2     74.9     4.85    2439    99.8    56001    7256   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      108.3     85.1     5.52    2438    96.3    56001    7557   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           106.3     84.9     5.50    2438    96.5    56001    7547   1.259  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           110.0     84.7     5.49    2437    98.9    51988    7654   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            96.2     72.3     4.68    2437   100.0    56001    6645   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9                    93.9     77.9     5.05    2436    99.8    56001    7223   1.268  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      97.3     80.8     5.23    2434    99.0    56001    7331   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       98.7     77.6     5.03    2434   100.0    56001    6848   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      109.6     86.8     5.63    2432    93.6    56001    7645   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       91.5     77.5     5.02    2432   100.0    56001    6849   1.285  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        93.6     77.5     5.02    2432   100.0    56001    6849   1.285  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         110.0     88.4     5.73    2429    94.1    51963    7976   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507                 90.4     75.8     4.91    2427   100.0    56001    7004   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         104.1     81.8     5.30    2427    98.3    56001    7407   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                        88.7     76.7     4.97    2426   100.0    56001    7033   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   97.5     81.5     5.28    2426    97.7    56001    7408   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation        99.3     80.5     5.22    2426    97.4    56001    7354   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341                        92.3     79.8     5.17    2423    99.8    56001    7042   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    92.3     79.5     5.15    2421    98.8    56001    7244   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      98.8     76.8     4.98    2421    99.5    56001    7169   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                         98.4     76.8     4.98    2421    99.5    56001    7169   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     90.8     5.88    2421    91.0    50560    8237   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          97.4     76.1     4.93    2421   100.0    56001    6947   1.283  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         91.1     79.0     5.12    2417    98.5    56001    7303   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       110.0     89.4     5.79    2416    95.5    51541    7789   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation       101.2     80.8     5.24    2415    98.2    56001    7231   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron                   100.9     80.1     5.19    2415    96.9    56001    7383   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     89.5     72.3     4.69    2415   100.0    56001    6895   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     96.0     78.0     5.05    2414   100.0    56001    6824   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         102.5     80.8     5.24    2414    96.4    56001    7420   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      102.5     80.8     5.24    2414    96.4    56001    7420   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            99.5     75.5     4.89    2413    99.6    56001    7020   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        99.2     80.9     5.24    2413    96.4    56001    7414   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                    106.1     80.4     5.21    2413   100.0    56001    6837   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       92.8     72.9     4.73    2410   100.0    56001    6548   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                           94.2     74.1     4.80    2409   100.0    56001    6898   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        91.4     73.5     4.76    2408   100.0    56001    6823   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                           93.6     74.0     4.80    2408   100.0    56001    6656   1.281  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       108.3     92.8     6.01    2403    92.3    56001    7456   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       96.1     74.4     4.82    2401   100.0    56001    6809   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        87.5     75.5     4.89    2398   100.0    56001    6662   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       87.3     75.5     4.89    2398   100.0    56001    6662   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 40                   87.5     71.7     4.65    2397   100.0    56001    6627   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                88.7     76.1     4.93    2397    99.7    56001    6913   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     90.3     5.85    2396    89.8    46862    8381   1.337
Hodgdon H322                        89.3     69.7     4.51    2395   100.0    56001    6424   1.274  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       87.0     75.7     4.91    2394   100.0    56001    6747   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        110.0     89.4     5.79    2392    90.6    49652    8078   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                     91.4     71.0     4.60    2391   100.0    56001    6137   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation       90.9     71.0     4.60    2391   100.0    56001    6137   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   110.0     89.4     5.79    2390    91.0    52040    7705   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron                    99.7     76.7     4.97    2388    97.1    56001    7104   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        86.0     74.1     4.80    2387   100.0    56001    6553   1.292  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     95.8     75.5     4.89    2385   100.0    56001    6400   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation        92.6     73.9     4.79    2385    99.9    56001    6718   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     89.4     5.79    2385    92.5    46043    8232   1.348
Raufoss RA15                       110.0     89.4     5.79    2385    92.5    46043    8232   1.348
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     89.4     5.79    2385    92.5    46043    8232   1.348
Vihtavuori N135                    102.3     74.5     4.83    2384   100.0    56001    6230   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                       92.0     70.3     4.55    2382   100.0    56001    6500   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                          93.1     72.8     4.72    2375    99.8    56001    6678   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  89.2     73.1     4.74    2371   100.0    56001    6290   1.281  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   90.3     71.5     4.63    2369   100.0    56001    6468   1.281  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       99.1     83.1     5.39    2367    96.1    56001    6956   1.285  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                         92.4     73.5     4.76    2366    99.9    56001    6578   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     94.0     6.09    2363    86.9    45472    8258   1.358
IMR 4955 Enduron                   110.0     86.0     5.57    2351    91.4    50952    7417   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 86.6     65.7     4.26    2348   100.0    56001    6008   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.0     96.3     6.24    2348    92.3    46971    7917   1.341
Somchem S335                        93.4     73.4     4.76    2346   100.0    56001    6130   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       89.3     68.7     4.45    2343   100.0    56001    5966   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 110.0     86.5     5.60    2326    97.9    41376    7840   1.410
Vihtavuori N133                     95.0     69.9     4.53    2324   100.0    56001    5789   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     87.7     5.68    2318    89.1    44730    7713   1.374
Accurate 3100                      110.0     88.4     5.73    2315    95.5    44032    7503   1.400
Winchester WXR                     110.0     87.4     5.67    2312    90.7    42060    7971   1.406
Bofors RP15                        110.0     87.4     5.67    2312    90.7    42060    7971   1.406
Vihtavuori N130                     89.4     67.2     4.35    2308   100.0    56001    5699   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W                    85.3     67.0     4.34    2303   100.0    56001    5682   1.301  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     85.9     5.57    2284    88.7    45235    7346   1.374
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     94.4     6.11    2282    87.6    42614    7967   1.400
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     94.4     6.11    2276    87.3    42390    7949   1.404
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     90.1     5.84    2270    85.4    44616    7462   1.383
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     87.4     5.67    2265    92.2    43506    7168   1.399
IMR 7828                           110.0     85.9     5.57    2264    87.3    41514    7671   1.417
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     84.7     5.49    2261    90.2    45353    7007   1.382
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     87.9     5.70    2251    93.1    38159    7961   1.466
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     91.8     5.95    2246    86.7    43146    7528   1.401
Lovex S071                         110.0     83.6     5.42    2169    92.7    35819    7079   1.533
IMR 7977 Enduron                   110.0     87.4     5.67    2160    78.8    44751    6359   1.410
Bofors RP30                        110.0     88.4     5.73    2149    84.3    33757    7583   1.546
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     88.4     5.73    2149    84.3    33757    7583   1.546
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     87.4     5.67    2103    82.5    35935    6935   1.523
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     87.4     5.67    2103    82.5    35935    6935   1.523
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     88.9     5.76    2036    82.6    30670    7213   1.619
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     88.9     5.76    2036    82.6    30670    7213   1.619
Lovex D100                         110.0     95.1     6.16    2017    70.5    35373    6142   1.558
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     87.4     5.67    1993    74.4    31092    6298   1.628
 
This is from the A-Square Handloading and Rifle Manual "Any Shot You Want". It was a go-to manual for me decades ago, and good reading. The data is good, Art was a serious tell it like it is kind a guy, and his data I've check more times then I can count.
 

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