Marlin 450 Guide Gun on the way

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I have obtained through a trade with some to boot from the guy I am trading with, a Marlin 1895M 450 Guide Gun. He is 70yrs old and fired 3 Hornady rounds through it and decided he did not want it. Well I DO!!!! I traded my Redhawk . Here is the factory picture and I will be posting a picture of the rifle itself soon. Also two boxes of Hornady ammo

I wanted a 444 or 45-70 or 450 to use in the swamps behind my place for large boar. I will pick it up Monday.

 

[Big Squeeze]

Yep!..........That`ll take care of any big boar and then some just fine!

A shooting buddy of mine has one in a 45-70. He mounted red dot scope on it. Just as quick aiming as using the iron sites.

 

[FOTIS]

Saweeet!

I have the same thing in 45-70 flavor. I love it.

300 gr Partitions at 2150 fps with H322.... What a hammer man!

 

[6ppcar]

You'll love the 450 Marlin, I'm 2 for 2 on deer with mine . It will really hammer them. Two big gaping holes makes for a very easy tracking job.

 

[bullet]

Big Squeeze I know you are right and if I use the bullet POP does it will nail them. 6ppcar, in the swamp and thick stuff it ought really be good on those white tail that love to stay in the swamp.

 

[paolo65]

Just today I decided to buy the same rifle but in 45-70. I already ordered it. :grin:

 

[bullet]

Hey, that is cool, I can't wait to start loading for mine.

 

[JD338]

bullet,

Congratulations on your new thumper!
Let us know how she shoots.

JD338

 

[bullet]

bullet,

Congratulations on your new thumper!
Let us know how she shoots.

JD338

Will do, got to see if I want to shoot it open sights or red dot or a Weaver 1-3 power.

 

[Big Squeeze]

bullet,

Congratulations on your new thumper!
Let us know how she shoots.

JD338

Will do, got to see if I want to shoot it open sights or red dot or a Weaver 1-3 power.

...............Ah yer gettin OLD!!!........Better use a red dot or scope!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

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bullet,

Congratulations on your new thumper!
Let us know how she shoots.

JD338

Will do, got to see if I want to shoot it open sights or red dot or a Weaver 1-3 power.

...............Ah yer gettin OLD!!!........Better use a red dot or scope!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Getting and feeling is two different things, of course I could be in denial but if you tell everybody I am getting older I will have to take ownership of that fact and I prefer how I feel instead of how I am. 8)

 

[FOTIS]

Check your e-mail! :lol:

 

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Check your e-mail! :lol:

Hey, I did and thanks man, that is cool for sure.

 

[Guy Miner]

Congrats on what should turn out to be a great little/big rifle!

Mine is a .45/70, but I'd have been just fine with a .450 Marlin too. Nosler makes a great .45 cal 300 gr Partition for these guns... :grin:

 

[bullet]

Congrats on what should turn out to be a great little/big rifle!

Mine is a .45/70, but I'd have been just fine with a .450 Marlin too. Nosler makes a great .45 cal 300 gr Partition for these guns... :grin:

Thanks Guy, seems a lot of you guys who hunt a lot and shoot a lot have a Marlin of some kind in 444, 45-70 or 450. That speaks well of the rifle and the cartridge in my opinion. thanks for the encouragement.

 

[Wally]

I'm chiming in a little late, but you made a great choice. Congrats! I've messed with 2 GG's, a 45-70 and a 444. They are a lot of fun, and extremely potent hunting rifles.

I think I'm going to give POP's load suggestion a try for myself.

Good Luck!

Steve

 

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Cartridge : .450 Marlin
Bullet : .458, 300, Nosler PART PP 45325
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch or 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch or 457.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 41000 psi, or 282 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
Max SAAMI PRESURE is listed at 47862 psi

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

69 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
SF-033 fl 105.0 58.4 3.78 2254 96.7 39423 6001 1.030
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 100.7 56.2 3.64 2248 93.4 41000 5977 1.016 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 98.0 55.2 3.57 2225 95.0 41000 5787 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 98.0 55.2 3.57 2225 95.0 41000 5787 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 100.5 51.1 3.31 2223 98.2 41000 5532 1.026 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 104.1 58.6 3.80 2203 88.6 41000 5765 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 102.7 59.7 3.87 2198 86.9 41000 5780 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 102.6 59.8 3.87 2197 86.9 41000 5771 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 102.8 51.1 3.31 2193 99.0 41000 5179 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 102.2 57.4 3.72 2192 88.2 41000 5710 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 102.8 61.0 3.96 2188 86.3 41000 5763 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 93.8 49.4 3.20 2185 99.1 41000 5319 1.071 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 105.0 53.9 3.49 2179 92.9 38221 5675 1.060
IMR 4198 103.1 50.3 3.26 2171 94.9 41000 5276 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 93.0 46.3 3.00 2153 97.7 41000 5020 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 102.8 54.7 3.55 2152 92.8 41000 5276 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 105.0 61.2 3.97 2143 83.5 39556 5482 1.052
ADI AR 2210 101.9 57.3 3.71 2138 84.3 41000 5359 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 105.0 61.3 3.97 2133 82.9 37407 5607 1.075
Accurate 2200 98.4 54.3 3.52 2133 86.1 41000 5276 1.044 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 99.1 57.5 3.72 2126 84.3 41000 5282 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 91.4 45.5 2.95 2124 96.8 41000 4890 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 105.0 55.5 3.59 2110 86.2 36725 5459 1.076
Accurate 2015 105.0 55.3 3.58 2107 90.2 35228 5431 1.100
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 58.2 3.77 2103 86.7 37386 5349 1.074
Hodgdon H4198 98.1 50.1 3.25 2103 88.7 41000 4958 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 105.0 61.5 3.98 2099 80.5 36588 5505 1.083
Winchester 748 105.0 61.5 3.98 2098 79.9 36971 5541 1.077
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 53.4 3.46 2096 91.8 36982 5167 1.085
Accurate 2460 105.0 61.3 3.97 2095 82.0 35938 5446 1.094
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 57.4 3.72 2083 80.3 36625 5340 1.085
Ramshot TAC 105.0 59.9 3.88 2079 79.8 36268 5370 1.089
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 56.3 3.65 2067 82.5 37781 5094 1.086
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 59.6 3.86 2061 79.1 35448 5311 1.100
Norma 201 105.0 58.4 3.78 2042 79.4 34030 5283 1.127
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 57.1 3.70 2024 79.1 37679 4831 1.094
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 62.3 4.04 2013 75.8 32661 5330 1.134
ADI AR 2206 105.0 56.5 3.66 2005 78.7 36115 4811 1.112
Rottweil R901 105.0 54.3 3.52 2003 82.6 31693 5211 1.178
Norma 202 105.0 56.2 3.64 1980 80.8 30334 5128 1.167
Somchem S335 105.0 55.9 3.62 1978 84.2 31554 4923 1.164
Somchem S341 105.0 61.5 3.98 1974 73.7 33549 4881 1.134
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 59.0 3.82 1963 73.8 31813 4932 1.155
Vihtavuori N133 105.0 52.3 3.39 1959 86.3 31054 4745 1.166
PB Clermont PCL 516 105.0 60.9 3.94 1932 69.4 31793 4756 1.162
Accurate 2520 105.0 58.9 3.81 1930 76.6 27912 5078 1.203
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 57.7 3.74 1927 78.7 28782 4970 1.197
IMR 3031 105.0 53.4 3.46 1926 79.9 27417 5092 1.212
IMR 4895 105.0 55.3 3.58 1902 71.6 30005 4606 1.186
Rottweil R902 105.0 55.1 3.57 1892 75.2 27742 4746 1.227
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 57.1 3.70 1889 70.0 27858 4776 1.215
Raufoss RA11 105.0 57.1 3.70 1889 70.0 27858 4776 1.215
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 57.1 3.70 1889 70.0 27858 4776 1.215
Norma 203B 105.0 57.1 3.70 1878 70.4 27238 4766 1.226
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 55.3 3.58 1866 74.3 27934 4563 1.221
ADI AR 2208 105.0 55.5 3.59 1866 70.4 28844 4476 1.211
IMR 4320 105.0 56.2 3.64 1859 69.3 28899 4438 1.209
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 55.3 3.58 1859 70.2 28562 4451 1.216
Accurate 2495 105.0 54.0 3.50 1849 79.6 21922 5136 1.342

 

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Well, thank you POP, that is needed for sure and is the kind of guide line I need. I just love it when you give that load stuff on a cartridge so I and others don't have to purchase some software. Thanks

 

[FOTIS]

Well, thank you POP, that is needed for sure and is the kind of guide line I need. I just love it when you give that load stuff on a cartridge so I and others don't have to purchase some software. Thanks

Yeah just tell the maker. In our legal torqued world who knows what I would be up against!

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Well, I will drive 5 1/2 hours to Tallahassee Fl, to meet the guy who is trading me the 450 Marlin Guide Gun Monday. I have to leave at 4 in the morning to meet him there at a certain time. It is about half way between where we both live, but it will save money and time. To have a gun shipped to an FFL who would charge me 40.00 not counting the 25.00 shipping and insurance much less the time, we decide to just meet each other. I buy gas here for 1.79 a gallon so it is cheap for me to drive there. Monday will be a relaxing day for a lot of thought and reflection as I drive to and from Tallahassee. I have had a lot on my mine lately and need the time.