Model 70 35 Newton

[nvbroncrider]

...damn, I ain't never gonna get no 220gr. 8mm Accubonds @ this rate...

Yes, that is a problem, Gene. Surely there's another angle for pushing the lad toward a new sanity!

Agreed. I can't imagine the Poor Colonel sitting in his safe now. Knowing he sits on a Remington action surrounded by the hoards of Winchesters and seeing another .358 bored rifle. It must truly be troubling. Wondering if he'll ever get out again. Poor Fella!!

 

[ajvigs]

Very nice! Seems like a stellar rifle and in a very interesting caliber. Maybe you will have to retire the Remington now and use the Winchester

 

[sask boy]

Scotty that is so cool to have friends & family like that is a true blessing my friend. I am so happy for you Bud.
I can't wait for your range reports with photos of course :wink:.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[JD338]

Scotty,

now that is just way too cool buddy.
Congratulations to you and your bride and great friends!
Nicely done Brian!!! :grin:

JD338

 

[joelkdouglas]

Sweet! And great pictures.

 

[tddeangelo]

...damn, I ain't never gonna get no 220gr. 8mm Accubonds @ this rate...

Yes, that is a problem, Gene. Surely there's another angle for pushing the lad toward a new sanity!

Agreed. I can't imagine the Poor Colonel sitting in his safe now. Knowing he sits on a Remington action surrounded by the hoards of Winchesters and seeing another .358 bored rifle. It must truly be troubling. Wondering if he'll ever get out again. Poor Fella!!

What Scotty should do is now have an M70 donor made to Whelen specs for a little brother to the Newton. Then the good ol' Whelen might get some play time again.

My M70 Whelen is a very nice addition to my M70 lineup. I can't imagine Scotty would long be able to resist having one like it.

:twisted:

 

[ajvigs]

...damn, I ain't never gonna get no 220gr. 8mm Accubonds @ this rate...

Yes, that is a problem, Gene. Surely there's another angle for pushing the lad toward a new sanity!

Agreed. I can't imagine the Poor Colonel sitting in his safe now. Knowing he sits on a Remington action surrounded by the hoards of Winchesters and seeing another .358 bored rifle. It must truly be troubling. Wondering if he'll ever get out again. Poor Fella!!

What Scotty should do is now have an M70 donor made to Whelen specs for a little brother to the Newton. Then the good ol' Whelen might get some play time again.

My M70 Whelen is a very nice addition to my M70 lineup. I can't imagine Scotty would long be able to resist having one like it.

:twisted:

I second that. A Model 70 Whelen, and its big brother the Model 70 35 Newton. Perfect pair there Top. :twisted:

 

[SJB358]

Yeah, I don't see my Whelen going anywhere. It's been an excellent hunting rifle and everytime I've tried to get rid of it, I couldn't. It's an unreal shooter and a good carrying rifle too. I imagine my son may get some blood on it in the future. Plus, I don't feel too bad about that particular Remington, I read a lot of Bob Milek as a kid and him and his M700 Whelen did a lot to shape my thoughts.

Thank you all for the well wishes. I'm a very lucky guy. Great friends and family. Doesn't get much better.

 

[Oldtrader3]

It is a fine caliber, the Newton, built back when men were men and boys did not own .35 Newton's! I still have my 9.3x74R to keep me in the club of mature cartridges for mature men. With (me and DrMike) we old fools as charter members.

 

[tddeangelo]

I guess my membership will have to wait....largest bottlenecked round I can boast is the Whelen. The 375 H&H will come home to roost some day, but that's a ways off yet.

 

[DrMike]

Hey, we old codgers have to stick together. We can't walk as fast or as far as we once did, so we need to hit hard and make certain what we hit stays down! Headed out to harass moose and deer this morning. Yup, I'll make certain to carry enough gun. Now, Scotty, were the 35 Newton up here with me, I could give it a good work out. Man, loaded with 280 grain A-Frames, it would be fearsome. :grin:

 

[SJB358]

Hey, we old codgers have to stick together. We can't walk as fast or as far as we once did, so we need to hit hard and make certain what we hit stays down! Headed out to harass moose and deer this morning. Yup, I'll make certain to carry enough gun. Now, Scotty, were the 35 Newton up here with me, I could give it a good work out. Man, loaded with 280 grain A-Frames, it would be fearsome. :grin:

HA! I would love to give those big Swift's a try Mike. I would imagine there isn't much of anything that isn't going to get a through and through with one of them. Seems like they can get moved out pretty quick too..

Cartridge : .35 Newton
Bullet : .358, 280, Swift A-Frame SS
Useable Case Capaci: 81.666 grain H2O = 5.302 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 74 58.40 2172 2933 34632 8693 97.2 1.456
-18.0 76 59.86 2220 3065 36743 8910 97.9 1.422
-16.0 78 61.32 2269 3200 38980 9115 98.5 1.389
-14.0 80 62.78 2317 3337 41351 9306 99.0 1.357
-12.0 81 64.24 2364 3476 43868 9483 99.4 1.326
-10.0 83 65.70 2412 3617 46540 9646 99.7 1.296
-08.0 85 67.16 2459 3760 49375 9792 99.9 1.265
-06.0 87 68.62 2506 3905 52386 9921 100.0 1.233
-04.0 89 70.08 2552 4051 55589 10036 100.0 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 91 71.54 2598 4198 58994 10145 100.0 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 92 73.00 2644 4347 62619 10252 100.0 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 94 74.46 2689 4497 66479 10356 100.0 1.108 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 96 75.92 2734 4648 70596 10457 100.0 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 98 77.38 2779 4802 74988 10555 100.0 1.051 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 100 78.84 2824 4957 79679 10650 100.0 1.025 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 102 80.30 2868 5113 84697 10741 100.0 0.999 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 92 73.00 2726 4621 74217 9899 100.0 1.066 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 92 73.00 2519 3946 51966 10570 98.8 1.233


Cartridge : .35 Newton
Bullet : .358, 280, Swift A-Frame SS
Useable Case Capaci: 81.666 grain H2O = 5.302 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 85 65.60 2102 2746 31380 8927 85.1 1.526
-18.0 87 67.24 2157 2893 33477 9255 86.6 1.485
-16.0 89 68.88 2213 3046 35730 9578 88.1 1.444
-14.0 91 70.52 2270 3204 38155 9892 89.4 1.404
-12.0 93 72.16 2327 3367 40765 10196 90.8 1.365
-10.0 95 73.80 2385 3537 43578 10489 92.0 1.327
-08.0 98 75.44 2443 3712 46618 10770 93.2 1.289
-06.0 100 77.08 2502 3892 49902 11035 94.3 1.253
-04.0 102 78.72 2561 4078 53456 11285 95.3 1.213
-02.0 104 80.36 2621 4270 57311 11516 96.2 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 82.00 2680 4467 61502 11728 97.1 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 83.64 2740 4669 66062 11918 97.8 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 85.28 2801 4877 71039 12086 98.4 1.065 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 112 86.92 2861 5089 76481 12229 99.0 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 115 88.56 2922 5307 82447 12345 99.4 0.997 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 90.20 2983 5531 89014 12434 99.7 0.964 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 82.00 2826 4964 74475 11562 100.0 1.049 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 82.00 2488 3848 50213 11163 89.3 1.248

 

[DrMike]

I do believe they would give quite a thump, Scotty. The big Woodleighs should provide quite an interesting impact, as well. That Newton should have enough case capacity to stuff a bit of powder behind this big bullets.

 

[SJB358]

I do believe they would give quite a thump, Scotty. The big Woodleighs should provide quite an interesting impact, as well. That Newton should have enough case capacity to stuff a bit of powder behind this big bullets.

I am thinking so Mike. I am staring at it (the 35 Newton) sitting in the corner. Not sure what to do with it just yet. Cases are all prepped. Need to figure out a scope for it. I am thinking if I leave it unscoped for a little bit, it will keep me from being distracted with an elk hunt coming up. It is HARD to not mess with it though. I have ALOT of bullets for it, just sitting on my shelf!

I even have a handful of 310 grain Woodleighs...

 

[DrMike]

Three tens? Yeah, that would be a lot of mass to put on game. It would push through about anything. On the other hand, the 250 grain Partitions will have quite an impact on game from that cartridge. It will do a good job on about anything.

 

[truck driver]

A rifle like that in a big game caliber is just dieing for a VXIII 1.5-5 or a straight 6x. I have a new to me 2-10 Minox coming that would be a great combo with all the eye relief you could ask for. Heck I would probably just load one and take it to the range just to pull the trigger with out a scope, just to feel it go bang. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[CatskillCrawler]

That's great brother! Good things happen to good people. You have some fine family and friends. Can't wait to see it all set up and slinging bullets.

 

[SJB358]

Thanks fellas. Yeah, it should sling some bullets, heavy ones pretty well.

The reason I am holding off on buying some rings and mounts is I am not sure if it'll get 1" or 30mm scope. The 1.5x5 Leupold would be a nice one. That's sorta the problem, there are alot of great options.

 

[JD338]

Scotty,

The 250 gr PT at 3000 fps would be just the ticket for elk!
Maybe you should throw on a scope, work up a quick load with the 250 gr PT and take it on your upcoming elk hunt!
It just might come together quicker than you think.

JD338

 

[tddeangelo]

I like how Jim thinks....

:twisted: