Pre 64 for Tom

Truthfully, almost all the NH rifles I've owned shot well. All required addressing the trigger, and the bedding on all was abysmal, necessitating attention. It was poor fit and finish that stood out. However, the fire system worked well, and all shot acceptably. I don't know that the SC manufactured rifles shoot any better, but the fit and finish is so much better than what was being shoved out at New Haven that it isn't even in the same league. I have traded in several of my NH manufactured rifles for those manufactured in SC, however. They just look better.
 
DrMike":3numl0j8 said:
Yeah, that rotten ol' NH manufactured rifle is about worthless, Scotty. You'd better just send it on up to me so it won't be neglected down there in the US of A. Fine groups, by the way.
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Yeah, my NH 70 only shoots 1/2 inch groups (at 200 yards), not worthy of a Winchester Mod 70!!
 
You fellows are really pushing. These are some interesting rifles for someone.
 
Ever since Tom's resolve weakened slightly, creating a crack, the condor's of flesh eating rifle indecision stared circling! Tom, you got to stick to your guns with these guys! Pretty soon, they will have you buying a .35 Whelen if you waffle in the least! :mrgreen:
 
Oldtrader3":q4st9hkt said:
Ever since Tom's resolve weakened slightly, creating a crack, the condor's of flesh eating rifle indecision stared circling! Tom, you got to stick to your guns with these guys! Pretty soon, they will have you buying a .35 Whelen if you waffle in the least! :mrgreen:
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Scotty already was circling around my current 30-06 with eyes toward making it a whelen if i got another '06. :lol:
 
So, what's holding you back, Tom? Take the plunge and make Scotty a happy man.
 
DrMike":1nrqai1n said:
So, what's holding you back, Tom? Take the plunge and make Scotty a happy man.
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I got more info on the original target of all this angst of mine, the 300H&H's.

I will sit patiently and wait till the seller is ready for me to check them out. He's got his hands full liquidating this estate, so he needs some time.

I had thought he was cobbling together just M70 parts on a barreled receiver, but he's looking for and relocating the CORRECT parts, and the rifle is a pre-war rifle. Sounds like if it's the one he mentioned with the threaded barrel, I might lose some barrel length, but the rest will be truly top-notch.

Far better than the pigs in pokes I've been looking at elsewhere, so I will wait till he's ready for me to check out the rifle(s) and go from there. Could mean making due with a vx6 up top instead of a Leica, though...

lol
 
I guess the important thing to consider with the Model 70 barrel length for the .300 H&H is that nearly all of them (especially early ones) were 26 inch barrels. This gives you some flexibility with having to remove maybe 1/2 inch of threading for the brake mounting that you mentioned on that specific barrel which you are considering. You have an extra 2 inches of barrel to work with in a cartridge which is essentially identical in capacity to the WSM. Something to keep in mind anyhow.

I would consider (for my own use) just having a knurled cap placed over the existing threads for the brake. This is the system that I have on my .340 Weatherby 26 inch barrel. The cap is unobtrusive and I keep my 2 extra inches of barrel which on the .340 is a definite plus for handloading.
 
I thought about asking a gunsmith about that, for sure, Charlie, before any barrel is cut. I would think brake threads are probably standard for pitch, so caps should be available? I would think most it would need is to be turned to match the barrel outside diameter.

What will weaken my resolve is seeing the unmolested pre-war rifles in 300H&H that may be just a few hundred more, and then I won't be able to get glass for it right away, but I may just suck it up and deal with that for the time being. My father has some VariX II's lying unused I could borrow, which would go on my Bob and free up the Minox from there to go to the 300. Potentially.

We'll see.......could have a month or so of waiting yet till he's ready to do the deal...just gotta wait and see.
 
I never thought of the thread cap, that is a great idea actually.

I am with you Tom, if you can actually look through what he has, you might see something else that interests you as well. I can only imagine how run through you are right now. If it is nice, it sounds like a good reason to sacrifice a little for it. Especially if it is exactly what you want.

I would like a Pre-64 30-06 or 270 I think. Mounted up in a simple Leupold fixed power. Not that it would take over as my primary, but you never know right?

Your playing it smart and waiting. Might be alot of really interesting rifles there. Just to put eyes on them will be pretty cool. Good luck mate. Hope you find "the one"
 
SJB358":d2d63m0q said:
I never thought of the thread cap, that is a great idea actually.

I am with you Tom, if you can actually look through what he has, you might see something else that interests you as well. I can only imagine how run through you are right now. If it is nice, it sounds like a good reason to sacrifice a little for it. Especially if it is exactly what you want.

I would like a Pre-64 30-06 or 270 I think. Mounted up in a simple Leupold fixed power. Not that it would take over as my primary, but you never know right?

Your playing it smart and waiting. Might be alot of really interesting rifles there. Just to put eyes on them will be pretty cool. Good luck mate. Hope you find "the one"
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How's a pre-64 FWT in '06 grab you, Scotty? I know there's one in the bunch. Also, apparently there reloading stuff for the 264WM, too.
 
tddeangelo":bcogrfym said:
SJB358":bcogrfym said:
I never thought of the thread cap, that is a great idea actually.

I am with you Tom, if you can actually look through what he has, you might see something else that interests you as well. I can only imagine how run through you are right now. If it is nice, it sounds like a good reason to sacrifice a little for it. Especially if it is exactly what you want.

I would like a Pre-64 30-06 or 270 I think. Mounted up in a simple Leupold fixed power. Not that it would take over as my primary, but you never know right?

Your playing it smart and waiting. Might be alot of really interesting rifles there. Just to put eyes on them will be pretty cool. Good luck mate. Hope you find "the one"
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How's a pre-64 FWT in '06 grab you, Scotty? I know there's one in the bunch. Also, apparently there reloading stuff for the 264WM, too.
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That is what I meant to put in there with the original post. A Pre 64 Featherweight... Forgot to add the FWT part of it. That is about as classic as it gets I think. Loaded with 220's you could roam NA and not really be too far behind the power curve, once you learned the rifle.
 
tddeangelo":1ljjtnsz said:
I thought about asking a gunsmith about that, for sure, Charlie, before any barrel is cut. I would think brake threads are probably standard for pitch, so caps should be available? I would think most it would need is to be turned to match the barrel outside diameter.

What will weaken my resolve is seeing the unmolested pre-war rifles in 300H&H that may be just a few hundred more, and then I won't be able to get glass for it right away, but I may just suck it up and deal with that for the time being. My father has some VariX II's lying unused I could borrow, which would go on my Bob and free up the Minox from there to go to the 300. Potentially.

We'll see.......could have a month or so of waiting yet till he's ready to do the deal...just gotta wait and see.
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I realize from an older post that he has not quite gotten to the point of deciding what deals he wants to do. You have to give him the space anyhow so use the time to your advantage and look at some more guns as well as thinking of alternatives. Probably best to give him plenty of room to decide what he wants to do anyway. Let us know when he decides.
 
SJB358":twdk17ms said:
tddeangelo":twdk17ms said:
SJB358":twdk17ms said:
I never thought of the thread cap, that is a great idea actually.

I am with you Tom, if you can actually look through what he has, you might see something else that interests you as well. I can only imagine how run through you are right now. If it is nice, it sounds like a good reason to sacrifice a little for it. Especially if it is exactly what you want.

I would like a Pre-64 30-06 or 270 I think. Mounted up in a simple Leupold fixed power. Not that it would take over as my primary, but you never know right?

Your playing it smart and waiting. Might be alot of really interesting rifles there. Just to put eyes on them will be pretty cool. Good luck mate. Hope you find "the one"
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How's a pre-64 FWT in '06 grab you, Scotty? I know there's one in the bunch. Also, apparently there reloading stuff for the 264WM, too.
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That is what I meant to put in there with the original post. A Pre 64 Featherweight... Forgot to add the FWT part of it. That is about as classic as it gets I think. Loaded with 220's you could roam NA and not really be too far behind the power curve, once you learned the rifle.
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You want a price on that fwt Scotty? It's up for grabs....

:D
 
tddeangelo":19cpz46g said:
I thought about asking a gunsmith about that, for sure, Charlie, before any barrel is cut. I would think brake threads are probably standard for pitch, so caps should be available? I would think most it would need is to be turned to match the barrel outside diameter.

What will weaken my resolve is seeing the unmolested pre-war rifles in 300H&H that may be just a few hundred more, and then I won't be able to get glass for it right away, but I may just suck it up and deal with that for the time being. My father has some VariX II's lying unused I could borrow, which would go on my Bob and free up the Minox from there to go to the 300. Potentially.

We'll see.......could have a month or so of waiting yet till he's ready to do the deal...just gotta wait and see.
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Tom, I looked up the Weatherby Accubrake cap threads and they are:
#1 contour: 1/2-28, #2: 9/16-24, #3: 5/8-24, #4: 11/16-24. The #3 contour would be .300 Mag for Weatherby. This is just for reference only, as you would have to measure the threads that are already there.
 
Charlie,

Thanks for the info!

I figured I'd consult the smith my buddy knows and ask about options, including capping the rifle instead of recrowning. The Swedish mausers I've seen that are capped for threaded muzzles have kinda hokey looking caps, but they are made to a pricepoint and for those who just wanted threads covered an didn't care much about aesthetics.
 
Picture of the Accubrake thread cap for reference, it is knurled.
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