nvbroncrider
Handloader
- Aug 20, 2011
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Can someone run numbers on this 24" 63k 250AB and 286PT? I'm contemplating again. Give me a overall view on powders.
QL 9.3X62
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DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Code:
Cartridge : 9.3 x 62
Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756
Useable Case Capaci: 63.960 grain H2O = 4.153 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.291 inch = 83.59 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17 107.0 66.2 4.29 2713 99.5 56853 8153 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 107.0 66.2 4.29 2713 99.5 56853 8153 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 103.1 60.8 3.94 2704 99.7 62000 7659 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 98.4 63.3 4.10 2695 100.0 62000 7501 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 106.3 63.3 4.10 2693 99.9 62000 7485 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 106.3 63.3 4.10 2693 99.9 62000 7485 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 104.5 61.6 3.99 2693 99.6 62000 7566 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 103.9 61.3 3.97 2691 99.4 62000 7598 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 103.9 61.3 3.97 2691 99.4 62000 7598 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 103.9 61.3 3.97 2691 99.4 62000 7598 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 107.0 66.7 4.32 2686 95.9 58859 8041 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 107.0 66.7 4.32 2686 95.9 58859 8041 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 105.1 63.3 4.10 2676 98.4 62000 7622 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 106.5 61.5 3.98 2672 100.0 62000 6997 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 98.6 61.3 3.97 2667 100.0 62000 6989 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 100.9 61.3 3.97 2667 100.0 62000 6989 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 104.5 63.6 4.12 2658 98.5 62000 7410 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 100.3 57.9 3.75 2651 100.0 62000 6702 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 107.0 62.4 4.04 2646 99.7 58719 7356 1.184 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 107.0 61.7 4.00 2644 99.6 59409 7355 1.177 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 99.0 62.6 4.06 2643 98.3 62000 7316 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 97.2 58.6 3.79 2639 100.0 62000 7050 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 103.4 58.8 3.81 2630 100.0 62000 6955 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 106.2 63.5 4.11 2629 95.6 62000 7436 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 94.0 59.7 3.87 2628 100.0 62000 6804 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 94.3 59.7 3.87 2628 100.0 62000 6804 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 107.0 67.2 4.35 2627 95.8 54173 7960 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 107.0 64.5 4.18 2624 97.6 53816 7866 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 99.5 55.7 3.61 2616 100.0 62000 6665 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 105.8 65.1 4.22 2574 95.1 62000 6947 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 107.0 61.9 4.01 2564 94.6 57023 7278 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 107.0 61.9 4.01 2564 94.6 57023 7278 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 107.0 62.4 4.04 2542 96.7 48493 7583 1.258
Accurate 4350 107.0 63.1 4.09 2542 96.7 47846 7625 1.275
Code:
Cartridge : 9.3 x 62
Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756
Useable Case Capaci: 63.960 grain H2O = 4.153 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.291 inch = 83.59 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 88 54.24 2196 2678 30435 6747 91.6 1.528
-18.0 90 55.60 2255 2822 32607 6961 93.0 1.485
-16.0 92 56.95 2313 2970 34950 7164 94.2 1.443
-14.0 94 58.31 2372 3123 37475 7355 95.4 1.400
-12.0 96 59.66 2431 3280 40192 7531 96.4 1.355
-10.0 99 61.02 2490 3441 43154 7693 97.3 1.312
-08.0 101 62.38 2549 3606 46355 7839 98.1 1.270
-06.0 103 63.73 2607 3774 49823 7968 98.7 1.229
-04.0 105 65.09 2666 3946 53594 8078 99.2 1.190 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 107 66.44 2725 4121 57700 8169 99.6 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 110 67.80 2783 4300 62180 8240 99.9 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 69.16 2841 4481 67080 8290 100.0 1.081 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 70.51 2899 4665 72452 8321 100.0 1.047 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 71.87 2956 4852 78362 8347 100.0 1.014 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 73.22 3014 5041 84881 8367 100.0 0.982 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 74.58 3071 5234 92088 8383 100.0 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 67.80 2905 4685 75697 7810 100.0 1.034 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 67.80 2600 3751 50432 8275 95.3 1.225DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : 9.3 x 62
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 64.040 grain H2O = 4.158 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.291 inch = 83.59 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 85 52.48 2089 2772 31067 6804 94.9 1.609
-18.0 87 53.79 2142 2914 33234 6992 96.0 1.566
-16.0 89 55.10 2195 3060 35558 7168 96.9 1.522
-14.0 91 56.42 2248 3209 38058 7330 97.7 1.477
-12.0 93 57.73 2301 3362 40746 7478 98.4 1.431
-10.0 95 59.04 2353 3517 43641 7610 99.0 1.387
-08.0 97 60.35 2406 3675 46763 7726 99.4 1.344
-06.0 100 61.66 2458 3836 50133 7825 99.7 1.303
-04.0 102 62.98 2510 3999 53778 7905 99.9 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 104 64.29 2561 4165 57725 7967 100.0 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 106 65.60 2612 4332 62004 8018 100.0 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 108 66.91 2662 4501 66655 8066 100.0 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 110 68.22 2713 4673 71721 8110 100.0 1.118 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 112 69.54 2763 4847 77250 8151 100.0 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 114 70.85 2813 5023 83289 8188 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 72.16 2862 5203 89930 8221 100.0 1.022 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 106 65.60 2711 4667 75644 7629 100.0 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 106 65.60 2458 3837 50203 8272 97.5 1.301
Code:
Cartridge : 9.3 x 62
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750
Useable Case Capaci: 64.040 grain H2O = 4.158 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.291 inch = 83.59 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17 105.9 65.6 4.25 2612 100.0 62000 8018 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 105.9 65.6 4.25 2612 100.0 62000 8018 1.188 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 104.8 65.5 4.24 2566 98.1 62000 8092 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 104.8 65.5 4.24 2566 98.1 62000 8092 1.204 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 107.0 67.3 4.36 2565 98.7 61178 8140 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 107.0 64.5 4.18 2554 99.6 61265 7954 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 99.4 58.7 3.80 2529 100.0 62000 7460 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 100.2 59.2 3.83 2520 99.9 62000 7426 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 100.2 59.2 3.83 2520 99.9 62000 7426 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 100.2 59.2 3.83 2520 99.9 62000 7426 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 100.8 59.5 3.85 2519 100.0 62000 7376 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 94.9 61.1 3.96 2519 100.0 62000 7290 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 102.4 61.1 3.96 2518 100.0 62000 7271 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 102.4 61.1 3.96 2518 100.0 62000 7271 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 104.7 61.2 3.96 2511 100.0 62000 7198 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 101.5 61.2 3.97 2510 99.5 62000 7511 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 104.5 60.4 3.91 2503 100.0 62000 7210 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 101.0 61.5 3.99 2494 99.5 62000 7301 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 102.4 59.1 3.83 2488 100.0 62000 6782 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 107.0 63.2 4.09 2487 99.3 55610 7720 1.276 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 95.0 59.1 3.83 2487 100.0 62000 6779 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 97.2 59.1 3.83 2487 100.0 62000 6779 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 95.7 60.6 3.93 2480 99.4 62000 7213 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 107.0 62.5 4.05 2480 99.2 55126 7707 1.268 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.0 65.2 4.23 2479 97.7 54547 7936 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 107.0 62.5 4.05 2479 99.2 55070 7704 1.268 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 107.0 65.2 4.23 2476 95.1 57759 7815 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 106.2 61.5 3.99 2475 97.4 62000 7431 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 106.2 61.5 3.99 2475 97.4 62000 7431 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 102.8 61.6 3.99 2474 97.4 62000 7426 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 107.0 61.8 4.00 2468 98.8 60386 7353 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 93.8 56.6 3.67 2466 100.0 62000 6846 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 96.4 55.6 3.61 2463 100.0 62000 6494 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 99.8 56.8 3.68 2458 100.0 62000 6753 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 90.7 57.6 3.73 2453 100.0 62000 6600 1.249 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 90.9 57.6 3.73 2453 100.0 62000 6600 1.249 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 107.0 62.5 4.05 2452 97.5 57553 7521 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 107.0 64.1 4.16 2441 96.7 55518 7580 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 107.0 62.8 4.07 2439 100.0 49096 7499 1.319
Rottweil R901 95.9 53.8 3.48 2438 100.0 62000 6466 1.257 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 107.0 62.8 4.07 2430 96.5 56439 7378 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 102.6 63.2 4.10 2425 97.0 62000 6956 1.241 ! Near Maximum !DrMike
Ballistician
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Oh, yeah, it could be a real thumper. It looks as if RL17 makes this cartridge come into its own in a big way.
pre6422hornet
Handloader
- Jan 24, 2012
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Damn you guys.........
buckfever":1b2yfid4 said:
Depending the rifle, the ftlb's might be similar, but I am not sure it would feel as rough as a hard hitting 7mm Rem Mag.. Just my observations though. Medium sized bullets running medium powders don't tend to hurt much, again, just what I feel.
pre6422hornet":1b2yfid4 said:
Your welcome Hornet! :lol:
DrMike":1b2yfid4 said:
RL17 looks real decent in the Newton as well. Might load up some 225 Sierra's and RL17, just to have something to shoot when I get it scoped.
DrMike
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buckfever":33ylrvcv said:
More of a good thing! :grin:
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More like a good push on recoil vs a quick thump.
65.5 Rl17 w the 250 works great in mine for accuracy, FWIW.
Fun rifle just need to find something other than a backstop to shoot with it. :lol:
Dewey
65.5 Rl17 w the 250 works great in mine for accuracy, FWIW.
Fun rifle just need to find something other than a backstop to shoot with it. :lol:
Dewey
DrMike
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The 9.3X62 is a great cartridge that will handle anything in North America, doing so with aplomb.
Horsethief
Handloader
- Jul 5, 2012
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My 9.3x62mm Mauser shoots 270gn Speer HotCor bullets @ 2340fps with 63gn of H-4350. That load is sub-MOA @ 100yds, which is way more accurate than what is needed for elk or moose. H-414 did well also with 286gn Hornady Interlocks, but those bullets aren't in production for now so I'm leaning on the Speer's for now.
Horsethief
Handloader
- Jul 5, 2012
- 346
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My 9.3x62mm Mauser shoots 270gn Speer HotCor bullets @ 2340fps with 63gn of H-4350. That load is sub-MOA @ 100yds, which is way more accurate than what is needed for elk or moose. H-414 did well also with 286gn Hornady Interlocks, but those bullets aren't in production for now so I'm leaning on the Speer's for now.
As of right now my largest caliber is 30 (300 rum) yep I want something bigger do I need it nope but want is more important when it comes to guns :mrgreen: .I'm thinking this spring when the smoke clears from Christmas I might pull the trigger on a new build or buy a factory rifle.
DrMike
Ballistician
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A 9.3 calibre might scratch that itch! The 9.3X62 is a horse, and its available in several fine rifles. It would be a good build, as well. I actually don't own one, but I do own the big brother, a 9.3X64.
truck driver
Ammo Smith
- Mar 11, 2013
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Hmmmm, let see the 9.3x62 is a necked up 30-06? what is the 9.3X64 based on?
DrMike
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Pretty much its own design--its that old. :shock:
Thebear_78
Handloader
- Sep 30, 2004
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Horsethief":1p45mamx said:
I would be careful running those 270gr speers. I found then to be very accurate in my 9.3x62 but the bullet is too soft to handle big game at higher velocities. I would use them on deer but for elk or moose the 286gr nosler Partition is a much better choice.
I had a 270gr Speer completely come apart on a moose neck at 15 yards. I didn't find any parts bigger than a sliver. The 286gr Partition on the other hand has proven extremely effective at 2550fps.
