My old arthritic shoulder has made me drop down to softer shooting rounds. I can shoot my '06 because it has a soft recoil pad and a muzzlebrake. But I also broke down and bought (expensive, for me!) a custom Mauser 98 with a Bansner stock/Decelerator pad and a 24" barrel (I dont know anything about it, twist or nothing) and I want to shoot the 145 LRX. I would like to see what loads can get me to 63-64K? I'm using Peterson brass and Fed 215M primers. Any help appreciated!
QL Request please? 24" 7mm08, 145LRX going for 64K? Thanks!
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DrMike
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Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 145, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30282
Useable Case Capaci: 72.121 grain H2O = 4.683 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
13 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 99.8 71.3 4.62 3258 100.0 64000 13436 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 108.9 72.0 4.66 3241 100.0 64000 13081 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 100.8 70.0 4.53 3239 100.0 64000 13619 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.4 74.8 4.85 3237 99.2 64000 13737 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 102.7 69.7 4.52 3236 98.5 64000 14006 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 107.2 69.3 4.49 3227 98.9 64000 13570 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 101.4 69.3 4.49 3227 98.9 64000 13570 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 102.9 72.7 4.71 3225 97.4 64000 14079 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C 110.0 77.1 5.00 3225 94.8 59618 15092 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C*T 107.4 73.3 4.75 3213 98.7 64000 13834 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N568 *C*T 110.0 76.3 4.94 3211 97.2 60604 14454 1.142 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 102.9 69.2 4.48 3211 99.6 64000 13451 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 105.7 69.5 4.50 3209 99.5 64000 13467 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C 110.0 73.1 4.74 3206 99.0 61556 13928 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 102.6 74.3 4.81 3190 99.9 64000 12827 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 95.5 61.8 4.01 3178 100.0 64000 12059 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 90.5 63.1 4.09 3175 100.0 64000 12041 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 99.9 66.4 4.30 3168 99.5 64000 12839 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 104.7 68.1 4.41 3168 100.0 64000 12001 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T 101.5 66.2 4.29 3163 100.0 64000 12198 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 96.1 66.0 4.28 3163 100.0 64000 12487 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 92.3 65.4 4.24 3160 100.0 64000 12393 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 90.1 63.4 4.11 3160 100.0 64000 12460 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 90.1 63.4 4.11 3160 100.0 64000 12460 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 95.4 65.5 4.24 3159 100.0 64000 12377 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T 110.0 72.3 4.69 3146 98.6 60377 13085 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 94.8 65.1 4.22 3145 99.3 64000 12526 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 101.0 67.9 4.40 3143 98.2 64000 12685 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 105.1 67.9 4.40 3143 98.2 64000 12685 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 110.0 79.3 5.14 3142 94.1 55912 14647 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 96.8 64.0 4.15 3137 100.0 64000 11502 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T 92.3 62.7 4.06 3136 100.0 64000 12002 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 95.0 62.5 4.05 3136 100.0 64000 11861 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR 92.6 61.6 3.99 3135 100.0 64000 11857 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 94.1 62.5 4.05 3130 100.0 64000 11820 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 100.0 67.2 4.35 3128 99.8 64000 12251 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 98.4 69.0 4.47 3118 99.4 64000 12190 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 99.6 63.4 4.11 3116 100.0 64000 11603 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 105.2 69.2 4.48 3111 99.7 64000 11969 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071 108.9 68.5 4.44 3110 100.0 64000 11859 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 103.0 68.5 4.44 3110 100.0 64000 11859 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 102.4 66.2 4.29 3109 98.4 64000 12300 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 94.9 62.4 4.04 3104 100.0 64000 11843 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 94.9 62.4 4.04 3104 100.0 64000 11843 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 92.3 62.7 4.06 3095 100.0 64000 11264 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 97.5 62.7 4.06 3089 100.0 64000 10952 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Aussie Wanderer
Handloader
- May 5, 2022
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Hey Preach, no need to justify shooting the 7mm08, it is an amazing round. I reckon you are going to love it. I can get the 140ttsx to close of 2,900fps. Good luck with the LRX, I will be interested to see what QL comes back with.
Aussie Wanderer
Handloader
- May 5, 2022
- 384
- 911
Hey Dr Mike, might need to look at the cartridge, that last lot is for the 7mmRM. Tad more capacity than the 7mm08 
DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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Okay, I didn't read your heading, providing data for the 7mm RM. This is closer to what you were asking. 
Code:
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 145, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30282
Useable Case Capaci: 44.715 grain H2O = 2.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 107.1 46.3 3.00 2973 100.0 64000 8863 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 106.0 46.2 2.99 2919 97.7 64000 8895 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 106.0 46.2 2.99 2919 97.7 64000 8895 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T 108.6 45.7 2.96 2917 99.4 64000 8781 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR 108.9 44.9 2.91 2906 99.1 64000 8598 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 110.0 44.2 2.86 2888 99.4 59459 8724 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 110.0 45.3 2.94 2881 99.3 61207 8588 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 103.7 43.2 2.80 2872 100.0 64000 8066 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 110.0 46.8 3.03 2869 95.3 63504 8689 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 110.0 44.8 2.91 2868 99.2 60136 8582 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 110.0 46.8 3.03 2868 97.8 59655 8821 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 108.3 45.6 2.95 2867 99.4 64000 8158 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 102.8 43.3 2.80 2861 99.2 64000 8299 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 103.8 41.9 2.71 2842 100.0 64000 7546 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 98.5 41.8 2.71 2840 100.0 64000 7542 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 96.2 41.8 2.71 2840 100.0 64000 7542 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle 98.5 41.8 2.71 2840 100.0 64000 7542 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350 110.0 44.8 2.91 2837 97.6 62684 8377 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 110.0 44.8 2.91 2837 97.6 62684 8377 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle 109.2 44.0 2.85 2834 98.6 64000 8153 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 109.2 44.0 2.85 2834 98.6 64000 8153 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 104.1 43.5 2.82 2820 96.9 64000 8174 1.130 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 97.7 39.4 2.55 2817 100.0 64000 7245 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 91.9 40.8 2.64 2804 100.0 64000 7352 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 92.2 40.8 2.64 2804 100.0 64000 7352 1.145 ! Near Maximum !- Thread starter
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DrMike
Ballistician
- Nov 8, 2006
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FYI
Code:
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 145, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30282
Useable Case Capaci: 44.715 grain H2O = 2.903 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 100 44.28 2529 2060 43147 7418 96.7 1.318
-09.0 101 44.77 2559 2109 44749 7495 97.1 1.296
-08.0 102 45.26 2589 2159 46428 7568 97.5 1.275
-07.0 103 45.76 2619 2209 48178 7637 97.9 1.254
-06.0 104 46.25 2649 2260 50004 7703 98.2 1.234
-05.0 105 46.74 2679 2311 51911 7764 98.6 1.213
-04.0 106 47.23 2709 2363 53906 7821 98.8 1.194
-03.0 108 47.72 2739 2416 55992 7874 99.1 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 109 48.22 2770 2470 58177 7922 99.3 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 110 48.71 2800 2524 60464 7966 99.5 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 111 49.20 2830 2578 62862 8005 99.7 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 112 49.69 2860 2633 65377 8039 99.8 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 113 50.18 2890 2689 68017 8068 99.9 1.081 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 114 50.68 2920 2745 70792 8092 100.0 1.064 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 115 51.17 2950 2802 73708 8111 100.0 1.046 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 116 51.66 2980 2859 76779 8124 100.0 1.029 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 111 49.20 2896 2700 68973 7836 100.0 1.076 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 111 49.20 2750 2434 57081 8051 98.1 1.165 ! Near Maximum !
