Quickload Help Please 6mm Remington

[D21ALASKA]

Hey Guys,
Was hoping someone could run some numbers for me please. I'm over book and not showing pressure signs but want to see what the numbers might be.

6mm Remington
95gr Ballistic Tip
Hornady Brass
Federal GM210M Primers
2.830" OAL

I'm using IMR4350 at the moment but can sort through the whole list.

Thank you as always.

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[DrMike]

Cartridge          : 6 mm Rem.
Bullet             : .243, 95, Nosler BalTip 24095
Useable Case Capaci: 48.535 grain H2O = 3.151 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.830 inch = 71.88 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61550 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              105.0     50.5     3.27    3367   100.0    61550   12852   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       105.7     49.4     3.20    3332    99.2    61550   12883   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                 107.4     49.1     3.18    3314    96.4    61550   13001   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                95.9     45.0     2.92    3312   100.0    61550   11553   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 +C                98.7     47.0     3.05    3306   100.0    61550   12089   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  109.7     52.4     3.39    3299    97.3    61550   12732   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                109.8     52.4     3.40    3298    97.2    61550   12746   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    107.6     51.2     3.32    3298    94.9    61550   12985   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                    107.7     48.7     3.16    3294    98.1    61550   12600   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C              107.7     48.7     3.16    3294    98.1    61550   12600   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       107.7     48.7     3.16    3294    98.1    61550   12600   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.7     48.6     3.15    3293    96.8    61550   12579   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               94.9     44.5     2.89    3286   100.0    61550   11481   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            94.9     44.5     2.89    3286   100.0    61550   11481   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T            99.9     43.5     2.82    3280   100.0    61550   11501   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T                99.9     43.5     2.82    3280   100.0    61550   11501   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T           109.8     48.1     3.11    3278   100.0    61550   11437   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T               109.8     48.1     3.11    3278   100.0    61550   11437   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        106.6     48.2     3.12    3275    96.6    61550   12436   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     48.7     3.15    3274    97.8    60430   12555   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     48.7     3.15    3274    97.8    60430   12555   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     107.0     52.2     3.38    3263    98.6    61550   12021   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               110.0     53.0     3.43    3261    98.6    54948   13498   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   98.3     46.1     2.99    3253   100.0    61550   11590   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      108.7     48.3     3.13    3250    96.3    61550   12177   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                100.4     46.4     3.01    3250    99.4    61550   11813   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       101.6     45.2     2.93    3250   100.0    61550   10963   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 96.4     46.0     2.98    3248    99.6    61550   11750   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        103.5     46.0     2.98    3247    97.9    61550   11912   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      99.6     46.0     2.98    3247    99.6    61550   11732   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              104.1     46.6     3.02    3245    98.0    61550   11987   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      94.1     44.5     2.89    3244    99.1    61550   11755   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        94.1     44.5     2.89    3244    99.1    61550   11755   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     51.1     3.31    3242    96.6    60849   12205   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         104.8     46.9     3.04    3238    97.9    61550   11895   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     47.8     3.10    3234    96.0    58075   12403   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                        99.2     43.9     2.84    3230   100.0    61550   11299   1.091  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          99.2     43.9     2.84    3229   100.0    61550   11295   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                  96.3     44.0     2.85    3228   100.0    61550   11425   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       98.4     44.0     2.85    3226   100.0    61550   11284   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    110.0     50.2     3.25    3224    94.2    61324   12107   1.075  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        101.9     45.6     2.95    3219    97.7    61550   11665   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          101.9     45.6     2.95    3219    97.7    61550   11665   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                        98.7     45.6     2.95    3219    97.7    61550   11665   1.081  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                   109.4     47.6     3.08    3210    95.9    61550   11699   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                105.2     47.6     3.08    3210    95.9    61550   11699   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           104.1     44.6     2.89    3210   100.0    61550   11056   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       104.3     47.2     3.06    3207    98.7    61550   11501   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              110.0     48.9     3.17    3206    99.5    54251   12291   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 110.0     50.6     3.28    3205    95.6    56438   12608   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     99.5     45.2     2.93    3198    98.9    61550   11315   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      107.7     48.2     3.12    3197    99.6    61550   11244   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             102.5     48.3     3.13    3190    97.8    61550   11343   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                101.8     44.1     2.86    3190   100.0    61550   10415   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                 109.7     48.5     3.15    3187    98.4    61550   11191   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        91.5     41.8     2.71    3184    99.9    61550   10907   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      102.6     45.3     2.93    3184    96.8    61550   11330   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          98.7     43.7     2.83    3183    99.2    61550   11152   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       91.9     41.6     2.69    3176   100.0    61550   10503   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          91.9     41.6     2.69    3176   100.0    61550   10503   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T              106.2     46.2     3.00    3172    96.1    61550   11334   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       94.0     41.6     2.70    3171   100.0    61550   10424   1.110  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        94.1     41.2     2.67    3166   100.0    61550   10428   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                 109.5     47.0     3.04    3163    96.7    61550   11103   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          97.5     42.7     2.77    3161    99.7    61550   10772   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          96.4     42.3     2.74    3160    98.7    61550   10942   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       96.4     42.3     2.74    3160    98.7    61550   10942   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        93.3     42.3     2.74    3160    98.7    61550   10934   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       101.4     48.3     3.13    3143    95.9    61550   11043   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       91.4     40.0     2.59    3132   100.0    61550    9864   1.131  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : 6 mm Rem.
Bullet             : .243, 95, Nosler BalTip 24095
Useable Case Capaci: 48.535 grain H2O = 3.151 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.830 inch = 71.88 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   79    35.36   2567    1390   32795   8795     90.0    1.446
-18.0   81    36.24   2628    1457   34961   9067     91.2    1.409
-16.0   83    37.13   2689    1526   37242   9331     92.3    1.371
-14.0   85    38.01   2750    1596   39643   9587     93.4    1.331
-12.0   87    38.90   2812    1667   42191   9833     94.4    1.292
-10.0   89    39.78   2873    1741   44898  10068     95.3    1.255
-08.0   91    40.66   2933    1815   47775  10292     96.1    1.219
-06.0   93    41.55   2994    1891   50833  10503     96.9    1.185
-04.0   95    42.43   3055    1968   54084  10701     97.6    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   97    43.32   3115    2047   57543  10885     98.2    1.120  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   99    44.20   3175    2126   61226  11054     98.7    1.089  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  101    45.08   3235    2207   65148  11208     99.1    1.059  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  103    45.97   3294    2289   69330  11345     99.5    1.030  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  105    46.85   3353    2372   73792  11464     99.7    1.002  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  107    47.74   3412    2456   78557  11565     99.9    0.975  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  109    48.62   3470    2540   83651  11648    100.0    0.949  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     99    44.20   3305    2304   71791  10812    100.0    1.016  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     99    44.20   2998    1896   50846  10789     93.5    1.183

 

[D21ALASKA]

Thanks Doc. Appreciate it as always.

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[D21ALASKA]

That's a pretty dang accurate workup on the 4350.
I settled at 43.2gr. as that was my fastest node right at an avg. of about 3020.
I had pushed it as far as 45 gr. and that's where I started to show pressure signs, just a slight extractor mark.

Impressed with the accuracy of the program.

Just need to check the accuracy of the actual load now tomorrow. The longest I could load them due to magazine restrictions is still .122" off the lands. I've never jumped a ballistic tip that far but we'll see how she goes.

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[6mm Remington]

With my Ruger 1B I'm also using IMR4350 and Federal 210 M primers. I'm using the 100 gr. Partition. My load is also just right at or slightly above what the books typically list.

100 gr. Nosler Partition
43.4 grs. IMR4350.
2.90 OAL - No magazine to limit length which is nice.

Glad to see other folks who love this round as much as I do. You hunting black bears and Sitka deer with it?? I know Guy really likes that 95 gr. Ballistic Tip in his 6mm and has gotten excellent results with it. I've sure been impressed with the performance the Partition has given my over the years. My son is using the 100 gr. Partition in one of his 6mm's and 90 gr. E-tip in the other. He took his first elk with the E-tip at 350 yards. One shot.

6mm Remington - best .243 caliber out there!! Yes just a wee bit biased!

 

[Guy Miner]

Ha! A "wee bit" indeed. :grin:

Ya, it's been a long time since I loaded anything except the 95 grain Ballistic Tip & Reloader 22 for our 6mm Rem...

I say "our" because I officially gave it to my youngest son, but he keeps it in my gunsafe, so not much has actually changed.

I do have some 100 gr Partitions loaded for him as well.

Guy

 

[D21ALASKA]

With my Ruger 1B I'm also using IMR4350 and Federal 210 M primers. I'm using the 100 gr. Partition. My load is also just right at or slightly above what the books typically list.

100 gr. Nosler Partition
43.4 grs. IMR4350.
2.90 OAL - No magazine to limit length which is nice.

Glad to see other folks who love this round as much as I do. You hunting black bears and Sitka deer with it?? I know Guy really likes that 95 gr. Ballistic Tip in his 6mm and has gotten excellent results with it. I've sure been impressed with the performance the Partition has given my over the years. My son is using the 100 gr. Partition in one of his 6mm's and 90 gr. E-tip in the other. He took his first elk with the E-tip at 350 yards. One shot.

6mm Remington - best .243 caliber out there!! Yes just a wee bit biased!

Yeah I was kind of bummed the magazine didn't allow me to run them longer. It's an older Remington 660 and per usual has a long throat on it. Going to head to the range today hopefully if my buddy ever gets out of bed...and we'll see what comes of this load. Unless it's lights out shooting wise I may play around with some RL17/19 that I have to see if I can eek some more speed out of her. I've got a couple pounds of 22 as well but it's reserved for the 257 Bob.

Mainly right now just working the load with plans to use it as a "practice" rifle for the most part since it's a bit less expensive to shoot often. I use it in the winter with a reduced load with Sierra 90gr FMJs to shoot coyotes and lynx, hopefully a wolf one of these days, but I can't find anymore of the FMJs so the ones I have are in reserve for hunting only. Would love to take it out for Sitkas, or down south for whitetails, but where there are Sitkas up here there are also brown bears so would be pretty unnerving, more so than it already is, walking through the brush with a 6mm. Good beach gun though and will most likely chase some mountain blackies and caribou with it at some point.

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[6mm Remington]

660 Remington!

The 6mm I gave my son was my first big-game rifle which is a Remington Model 600 which is also a Montana Centennial rifle made in 1964. I know first hand your woes of the short magazine. On my son's Ruger MKII he has a longer magazine which is just right and you can seat the bullets out instead of stuffed so far down in the case.

I knew you were going to jump on that Guy!

 

[D21ALASKA]

Ended up shooting fine even with the jump. Under an inch with 2 touching at 100 so that'll do for me. Think I'm gonna keep this one in my back pocket and play around with some reloader to see if I can get some more speed out of it though. If I can get another 150-200fps out of it it'll carry a lot more foot pounds as I start to reach out which is my main concern.

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[6mm Remington]

The 600 had the 18 1/2 inch barrel and the load with the 100 gr. Partition in it Chronographed at 2800 fps.

 

[Guy Miner]

I never kept a round-count through "our" 6mm Remington.

Often thought about replacing the 22" factory barrel with a 24" or 26" tube though... That would net some more velocity I'd think!

Still, roughly 3,000 fps with a 100 gr bullet is pretty deadly, and pretty flat shooting.

Guy

 

[D21ALASKA]

I never kept a round-count through "our" 6mm Remington.

Often thought about replacing the 22" factory barrel with a 24" or 26" tube though... That would net some more velocity I'd think!

Still, roughly 3,000 fps with a 100 gr bullet is pretty deadly, and pretty flat shooting.

Guy

Oh she's definitely fast enough with this load Guy. I just have plenty of time at the moment to tinker with her. I also have a 5lb jug of each 17/19 that I'm not using for anything else at the moment so figured I'd see what they give me. I'll definitely revert back to this load if they don't give me the accuracy I want though.

I use the 4350 in a few different rifles, added one more yesterday as I worked up a load for a buddies .338WM, and while I've still got plenty in the jug would be nice to spread the love a bit if I can. Somewhat off subject but man that 4350 is consistent in the 338. Hit a node between 71.1 and 71.7gr. with an ES of 3fps. with some 225 Accubonds. Will load some of those today and shoot for groups but pretty sure it should be lights out.

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