Quickload request for a 300wsm with 215 Berger please

IdahoCTD

Handloader
Nov 4, 2004
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I'm looking for a Quickload request for a 300wsm with 215 Bergers in a 26" barrel with a OAL of 3.175". I'd like the same thing with a 300win mag at a OAL of 3.735. I'm curious how close the two are with the bullets seated at about the same place in the neck to maximize capacity. Thanks in advance.
 
I ran them both at 63k so they would be apples to apples
The QL default on the WSM is 63817 and the Win Mag is 64k so I equalized it.

Code:
Cartridge          : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet             : .308, 215, Berger Hybr #30423
Useable Case Capaci: 73.046 grain H2O = 4.743 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.175 inch = 80.65 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

160 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     78.1     5.06    2942    97.4    60439   12531   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  98.9     71.6     4.64    2915   100.0    63001   10702   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     74.1     4.80    2907    99.9    62633   11276   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     74.1     4.80    2907    99.9    62633   11276   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                104.6     75.2     4.87    2907    99.9    63001   11065   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  104.4     75.0     4.86    2906    99.9    63001   11039   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    101.6     69.9     4.53    2903    99.6    63001   11301   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           99.8     70.2     4.55    2900   100.0    63001   10848   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 107.9     72.2     4.68    2898   100.0    63001   10433   1.284  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    102.0     73.0     4.73    2898    98.9    63001   11447   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   96.9     69.5     4.50    2890   100.0    63001   10506   1.281  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       100.4     69.5     4.50    2890    99.8    63001   10894   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           106.2     69.5     4.50    2890    99.8    63001   10894   1.280  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        101.4     69.1     4.47    2877    99.7    63001   10833   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 101.9     69.4     4.49    2875   100.0    63001   10767   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       101.9     69.4     4.49    2875   100.0    63001   10767   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       101.9     69.4     4.49    2875   100.0    63001   10767   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     104.6     69.7     4.52    2874   100.0    63001   10793   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        104.6     69.7     4.52    2874   100.0    63001   10793   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        105.4     73.7     4.77    2874    99.9    63001   10669   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     80.4     5.21    2871    96.9    56577   12243   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     101.8     74.7     4.84    2858   100.0    63001   10243   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     73.3     4.75    2850    99.8    61309   10607   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     73.3     4.75    2850    99.8    61309   10607   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       105.1     72.2     4.68    2849    98.7    63001   10820   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      103.2     68.9     4.47    2845    99.5    63001   10593   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   90.4     63.9     4.14    2843   100.0    63001    9609   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         98.2     65.8     4.26    2831   100.0    63001   10210   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  98.8     66.5     4.31    2831   100.0    63001   10271   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     80.4     5.21    2830    96.9    53869   12102   1.367
Alliant Reloder-23                 104.3     68.7     4.45    2826   100.0    63001    9642   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          99.5     67.0     4.34    2824   100.0    63001   10203   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  89.4     63.2     4.09    2822   100.0    63001    9539   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            89.4     63.2     4.09    2822   100.0    63001    9539   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     78.9     5.11    2817    95.5    53726   12400   1.359
PB Clermont PCL 511                 91.3     65.5     4.24    2817   100.0    63001    9837   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      94.3     65.6     4.25    2816   100.0    63001    9824   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        89.1     63.4     4.11    2815   100.0    63001    9845   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      89.1     63.4     4.11    2815   100.0    63001    9845   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   100.1     68.1     4.41    2812    99.4    63001   10249   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      104.1     68.1     4.41    2812    99.4    63001   10249   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   92.8     65.5     4.24    2810   100.0    63001    9605   1.318  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     74.5     4.83    2809   100.0    53537   10898   1.369
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     74.5     4.83    2809   100.0    53537   10898   1.369
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           96.8     65.2     4.22    2807    99.9    63001   10017   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           93.8     65.2     4.22    2807    99.9    63001   10017   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         96.8     65.2     4.22    2807    99.9    63001   10017   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        99.0     67.4     4.36    2792   100.0    63001    9740   1.318  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     91.2     62.7     4.07    2790   100.0    63001    9522   1.316  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           93.8     62.5     4.05    2787   100.0    63001    9385   1.313  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          93.9     62.5     4.05    2787   100.0    63001    9383   1.313  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              97.5     69.2     4.49    2787   100.0    63001    9784   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        95.7     64.1     4.15    2785   100.0    63001    9096   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       93.0     62.6     4.06    2782   100.0    63001    9323   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       97.7     64.9     4.20    2781    99.7    63001    9825   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        94.5     64.6     4.18    2779   100.0    63001    9555   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    104.2     69.4     4.50    2779   100.0    63001    9541   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      102.0     68.7     4.45    2775   100.0    63001    9409   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         107.8     68.7     4.45    2775   100.0    63001    9409   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         110.0     79.7     5.16    2771    92.6    62301   10473   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            98.4     63.5     4.11    2770   100.0    63001    9174   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    104.3     67.3     4.36    2767    99.6    63001    9656   1.303  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                       96.4     63.5     4.12    2765   100.0    63001    9395   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                            94.6     63.4     4.11    2764   100.0    63001    9370   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          93.7     62.4     4.05    2762   100.0    63001    9367   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                   87.7     61.0     3.95    2761   100.0    63001    9046   1.313  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        96.8     69.4     4.50    2756    99.3    63001    9696   1.311  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     78.9     5.11    2756    90.4    56739   11042   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation        89.0     60.4     3.92    2752   100.0    63001    9088   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        86.8     59.7     3.87    2749   100.0    63001    9066   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       91.7     60.6     3.93    2746   100.0    63001    9266   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          91.7     60.6     3.93    2746   100.0    63001    9266   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        85.5     57.6     3.73    2746   100.0    63001    8923   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          85.5     57.6     3.73    2746   100.0    63001    8923   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  85.5     57.6     3.73    2746   100.0    63001    8923   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        88.9     60.7     3.93    2745   100.0    63001    9261   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   85.2     59.2     3.84    2744   100.0    63001    8799   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   86.9     60.9     3.95    2743   100.0    63001    9081   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          85.9     57.8     3.75    2740   100.0    63001    8859   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 96.3     62.7     4.07    2739   100.0    63001    8642   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          92.7     61.1     3.96    2736   100.0    63001    9001   1.322  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      86.5     60.2     3.90    2733   100.0    63001    8830   1.318  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     72.9     4.73    2732    99.7    47555   11140   1.459
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation        90.5     60.6     3.93    2728   100.0    63001    8836   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            87.5     57.9     3.75    2728   100.0    63001    8625   1.307  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       86.9     59.2     3.83    2727   100.0    63001    8723   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          86.9     59.2     3.83    2727   100.0    63001    8723   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       88.9     59.2     3.84    2722   100.0    63001    8639   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        89.2     58.7     3.81    2720   100.0    63001    8674   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     76.5     4.96    2719    96.2    47845   11566   1.450
ADI AR 2208                         88.2     57.6     3.74    2718   100.0    63001    8670   1.309  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      88.5     57.6     3.74    2718   100.0    63001    8670   1.309  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            88.9     56.5     3.66    2706   100.0    63001    8472   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     73.3     4.75    2704    94.7    55719   10394   1.387  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       89.1     62.6     4.06    2702   100.0    63001    8764   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     80.1     5.19    2695    93.5    45549   11942   1.496
Lovex S062                          86.5     56.7     3.67    2692   100.0    63001    8339   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                     94.2     59.8     3.88    2677   100.0    63001    8201   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       85.7     55.6     3.60    2677   100.0    63001    8205   1.334  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       86.3     56.8     3.68    2674   100.0    63001    8157   1.360  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     85.5     58.2     3.77    2671   100.0    63001    8237   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     85.3     56.3     3.65    2639   100.0    63001    7766   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     78.3     5.08    2630    85.5    47833   11125   1.502
Vihtavuori N135                     90.3     55.1     3.57    2621   100.0    63001    7546   1.347  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     78.9     5.11    2577    86.7    45913   10414   1.487
Vihtavuori N133                     85.4     52.6     3.41    2573   100.0    63001    7143   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     75.2     4.87    2573    82.5    46074   10416   1.484
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     75.7     4.90    2525    91.0    41945   10195   1.554
Accurate 8700                      110.0     77.3     5.01    2507    90.3    41331   10190   1.553
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     79.7     5.16    2489    87.1    39931   10312   1.585
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     75.7     4.90    2465    88.2    39361    9969   1.599
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     72.5     4.70    2257    63.8    36263    7967   1.668
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     72.5     4.70    2238    68.3    34035    8322   1.712
Rottweil P805                       85.3     28.4     1.84    2039   100.0    63001    4157   1.434  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star            98.2     33.0     2.14    1966   100.0    63001    3684   1.472  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 25 BP                       110.0     25.0     1.62    1698   100.0    41505    2892   1.762
IMR TrailBoss                      110.0     25.0     1.62    1698   100.0    41505    2892   1.762


Win Mag

Code:
Cartridge          : .300 Win. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 215, Berger Hybr #30423
Useable Case Capaci: 84.288 grain H2O = 5.473 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.735 inch = 94.87 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

190 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        109.1     90.3     5.85    3048    99.1    63001   14604   1.260  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    105.2     86.2     5.58    3025    98.7    63001   14270   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  108.3     91.3     5.92    3021    99.4    63001   14048   1.281  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 107.0     90.2     5.84    3014    99.0    63001   14114   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        108.9     85.1     5.52    2981   100.0    63001   12358   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    108.9     85.1     5.52    2981   100.0    63001   12358   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     88.3     5.72    2954    99.3    59488   13623   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     92.4     5.99    2953    98.0    58810   14273   1.351  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        104.2     81.0     5.25    2951   100.0    63001   12615   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        104.2     81.0     5.25    2951   100.0    63001   12615   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 99.2     82.2     5.33    2950   100.0    63001   12399   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   99.0     82.1     5.32    2948   100.0    63001   12367   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     96.3     76.5     4.95    2948    99.9    63001   12689   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     84.2     5.45    2946   100.0    59911   12656   1.331  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     96.6     79.8     5.17    2945    99.5    63001   12903   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  93.2     77.9     5.05    2940   100.0    63001   11961   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        95.2     76.0     4.93    2936   100.0    63001   12239   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           100.7     76.0     4.93    2936   100.0    63001   12239   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           94.4     76.6     4.96    2935   100.0    63001   12127   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        100.3     80.9     5.24    2930   100.0    63001   11996   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 102.0     78.8     5.11    2929   100.0    63001   11680   1.292  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        105.5     81.1     5.25    2928   100.0    63001   11963   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      105.5     81.1     5.25    2928   100.0    63001   11963   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   91.8     76.0     4.92    2927   100.0    63001   11768   1.285  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         96.4     75.7     4.91    2926   100.0    63001   12179   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   107.8     89.2     5.78    2922    94.1    63001   13130   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        96.6     75.9     4.92    2916   100.0    63001   12045   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        96.6     75.9     4.92    2916   100.0    63001   12045   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  96.6     75.9     4.92    2916   100.0    63001   12045   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      99.2     76.2     4.94    2916   100.0    63001   12074   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         99.2     76.2     4.94    2916   100.0    63001   12074   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       100.1     79.3     5.14    2905    99.4    63001   12248   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      96.5     81.7     5.29    2897   100.0    63001   11491   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       98.0     75.5     4.89    2895    99.9    63001   11934   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         93.4     72.2     4.68    2880   100.0    63001   11464   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  93.9     73.0     4.73    2878   100.0    63001   11521   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     90.4     5.86    2875    91.2    59152   13671   1.365  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          94.6     73.5     4.76    2872   100.0    63001   11446   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   85.4     69.6     4.51    2870   100.0    63001   10774   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    108.4     83.3     5.40    2868    97.5    63001   12241   1.309  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    95.3     74.8     4.85    2866    99.8    63001   11578   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       99.1     74.8     4.85    2866    99.8    63001   11578   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 86.7     71.7     4.65    2859   100.0    63001   11040   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         92.2     71.6     4.64    2858   100.0    63001   11259   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           89.2     71.6     4.64    2858   100.0    63001   11259   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           92.2     71.6     4.64    2858   100.0    63001   11259   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      89.6     71.9     4.66    2857   100.0    63001   11026   1.302  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                  98.6     75.0     4.86    2857   100.0    63001   10809   1.313  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         105.3     88.1     5.71    2848    94.6    63001   12104   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   87.9     71.6     4.64    2848   100.0    63001   10786   1.317  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        94.0     73.9     4.79    2838   100.0    63001   10937   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       93.2     71.4     4.62    2837   100.0    63001   11094   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              92.9     76.1     4.93    2836   100.0    63001   10996   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     86.6     68.8     4.46    2830   100.0    63001   10695   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           89.1     68.5     4.44    2828   100.0    63001   10553   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          89.1     68.5     4.44    2828   100.0    63001   10550   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        89.9     70.9     4.60    2827   100.0    63001   10744   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     99.1     76.2     4.94    2826   100.0    63001   10724   1.306  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     99.5     74.1     4.80    2822   100.0    63001   10910   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       88.1     68.5     4.44    2821   100.0    63001   10485   1.329  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        90.5     69.9     4.53    2817   100.0    63001   10221   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                       91.9     69.8     4.52    2816   100.0    63001   10577   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       96.8     75.2     4.87    2816   100.0    63001   10571   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         102.3     75.2     4.87    2816   100.0    63001   10571   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                            90.2     69.7     4.52    2815   100.0    63001   10550   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     91.0     5.90    2813    92.4    55938   12785   1.361  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        92.3     76.4     4.95    2813    99.8    63001   10973   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          89.3     68.6     4.45    2810   100.0    63001   10544   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            93.4     69.5     4.51    2810   100.0    63001   10321   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     86.8     5.62    2809    88.5    55794   12916   1.360  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       87.6     66.8     4.33    2799   100.0    63001   10446   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          87.6     66.8     4.33    2799   100.0    63001   10446   1.304  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          88.4     67.2     4.35    2784   100.0    63001   10149   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 91.4     68.7     4.45    2778   100.0    63001    9747   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation        86.4     66.7     4.32    2778   100.0    63001    9975   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       85.1     69.0     4.47    2757   100.0    63001    9899   1.308  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     87.3     5.66    2751    95.9    51780   12344   1.419
Accurate 8700                      110.0     89.2     5.78    2747    95.8    50405   12402   1.417
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     92.0     5.96    2736    93.3    49658   12681   1.440
Vihtavuori N150                     89.7     65.8     4.26    2719   100.0    63001    9261   1.323  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     87.3     5.66    2693    93.8    48342   12199   1.461
Vihtavuori N135                     85.9     60.5     3.92    2661   100.0    63001    8548   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     83.6     5.42    2483    72.0    42231   10619   1.538
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     83.6     5.42    2458    75.3    40080   10690   1.580
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star            97.6     37.8     2.45    2040   100.0    63001    4372   1.416  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 25 BP                       110.0     28.8     1.87    1768   100.0    42093    3449   1.690
IMR TrailBoss                      110.0     28.8     1.87    1768   100.0    42093    3449   1.690
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     83.6     5.42    1755    35.6    21517    5250   2.101
 
Thank you. I was expecting them to be closer in velocity but based on case capacity those numbers seem closer to reality.
 
Yep. I looked them over after the run and it does seem to make sense, I agree. I originally thought the WSM pushed a little would run right with it but 100 fps or so is logical.
If you need any more just shout.
 
For the most common loads the velocity gap is a lot closer it seems. Most people shoot H-1000 in the 300wm 2950-3000fps with 75-78gr and for top loads in the WSM it seems like 7828 is the ticket at about 10grs less powder. So if you look at those two it is only around 40fps according to QL. The thing that appeals to me is the charge weight difference between the too. That translates into quite a bit less recoil for the WSM. Since I'm looking to build a lighter weight backpack gun that is appealing. With a 10lb rifle that is 28.5lbs of recoil versus 32.4 using QL charge weights with the powders mentioned. That's about 15% more recoil for 40-50fps. Since the 300wsm is taking over 1000yd benchrest for the .30 calibers I might give it a whirl. I already have brass and dies so I'm just a reamer away at this point. It would be fun to chamber a barrel for a 300wm to find top velocity/accuracy and then set it back just enough to punch a 300wsm reamer in it to see what it get's.
 
That makes a lot of sense.
10-15% reduction in recoil is a pretty big deal.
From your research, does the powder reduction translate to barrel life?
 
The 1000yd guys are getting phenomenal barrel life from them. Well over 2000 rounds with some around 2500. The old 308 Baer/300 AI rifles that everyone use to use would only hold around 1000 rounds of accuracy life. The guy I talked to said the brass life is amazing as well with well over 20 reloads on both Winchester and Norma brass. He only runs in the 2800fps range with 210's though so that helps with brass life I'm sure. He has set numerous 1000yd records with one at the PA 1000yd benchrest. It seems like it is a modern version of the old 30-338 Win. mag.
 
Fwiw, I shoot that bullet outta a strait win mag and get excellent accuracy, half MOA at 800? Last time out. I use H1000 and seat them 0.015" off the lands, MV is 3,000 per magneto and 28" Hart.
 
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