QuickLoad request.

[RAY]

If someone would be so kind to run a QL for 7mm08 bolt action ?

Seated bullet 2.740 " 120 gr spt prohunter.

Big game powder

Nosler brass

Cci 250 primer.

20" barrel.

Thanks, Ray !

 

[jimbires]

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 120, Sierra SP 1900
Useable Case Capaci: 51.880 grain H2O = 3.368 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.740 inch = 69.60 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Ramshot Big Game

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 79 40.40 2423 1564 30951 9183 88.5 1.261
-18.0 81 41.41 2485 1645 33059 9490 89.9 1.227
-16.0 83 42.42 2547 1728 35312 9789 91.2 1.194
-14.0 85 43.43 2609 1813 37724 10078 92.4 1.160
-12.0 87 44.44 2671 1901 40302 10355 93.6 1.124
-10.0 89 45.45 2733 1991 43072 10619 94.6 1.089
-08.0 91 46.46 2796 2083 46038 10870 95.6 1.056
-06.0 93 47.47 2858 2177 49217 11106 96.5 1.024
-04.0 95 48.48 2921 2273 52636 11325 97.3 0.993 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 49.49 2983 2371 56309 11527 97.9 0.963 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 50.50 3045 2471 60259 11709 98.5 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 51.51 3107 2572 64515 11872 99.0 0.906 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 52.52 3169 2676 69070 12014 99.4 0.879 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 105 53.53 3231 2781 73965 12134 99.7 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 107 54.54 3292 2887 79242 12231 99.9 0.828 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 109 55.55 3353 2995 84937 12303 100.0 0.804 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 50.50 3187 2707 72592 11416 100.0 0.864 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 50.50 2851 2166 48816 11364 92.6 1.024

 

[RAY]

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 120, Sierra SP 1900
Useable Case Capaci: 51.880 grain H2O = 3.368 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.740 inch = 69.60 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder : Ramshot Big Game

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 79 40.40 2423 1564 30951 9183 88.5 1.261
-18.0 81 41.41 2485 1645 33059 9490 89.9 1.227
-16.0 83 42.42 2547 1728 35312 9789 91.2 1.194
-14.0 85 43.43 2609 1813 37724 10078 92.4 1.160
-12.0 87 44.44 2671 1901 40302 10355 93.6 1.124
-10.0 89 45.45 2733 1991 43072 10619 94.6 1.089
-08.0 91 46.46 2796 2083 46038 10870 95.6 1.056
-06.0 93 47.47 2858 2177 49217 11106 96.5 1.024
-04.0 95 48.48 2921 2273 52636 11325 97.3 0.993 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 97 49.49 2983 2371 56309 11527 97.9 0.963 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 99 50.50 3045 2471 60259 11709 98.5 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 101 51.51 3107 2572 64515 11872 99.0 0.906 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 103 52.52 3169 2676 69070 12014 99.4 0.879 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 105 53.53 3231 2781 73965 12134 99.7 0.853 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 107 54.54 3292 2887 79242 12231 99.9 0.828 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 109 55.55 3353 2995 84937 12303 100.0 0.804 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 50.50 3187 2707 72592 11416 100.0 0.864 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 50.50 2851 2166 48816 11364 92.6 1.024

Thank you very much JimBires, I have some start charges at 47 .0 gr increased by .5 increments to 50.0 gr.

Should I start lower ?

Thanks again, Ray.

 

[jimbires]

going by the chart above , 47.0 is 3.5 grains under max . I'd start there without worry . usually the starting load in books are 4.0 grains under max . I've never found a starting powder charge to be the best . as you work up just watch for pressure .

 

[RAY]

going by the chart above , 47.0 is 3.5 grains under max . I'd start there without worry . usually the starting load in books are 4.0 grains under max . I've never found a starting powder charge to be the best . as you work up just watch for pressure .

Thank you for the insight, the 08 is new to me for handloading and reading ridge runners post about QL ,I know I should be measuring overfill capacity with a fired case but I'm not there yet because I have to fire this Nosler brass first.

I'm going by Nosler data and ramshot , I wanted to see QL as a reference as well.

Thanks again , Ray.

PS: I meant to say thanks for the W760 QL Data too ( a while back ).

 

[jimbires]

I neck size only new brass 2 or 3 times to get it fully expanded , before I check water capacity . I'll just use 5 pieces for this , it gives me a good idea what capacity I'm working with . RL17 will usually give about the fastest velocity , if you have some to try . keep us up to date with your work up .


here is a powder chart with your bullet and 20"bbl .


Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60191 psi, or 415 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

1 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17 105.0 52.7 3.41 3121 99.1 60191 12618 0.922 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 105.0 52.7 3.41 3121 99.1 60191 12618 0.922 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 105.0 52.7 3.41 3113 99.6 58570 12737 0.930 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 103.9 52.5 3.40 3058 94.6 60191 12274 0.932 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 103.9 52.5 3.40 3058 94.6 60191 12274 0.932 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 101.6 49.1 3.18 3025 99.3 60191 11524 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3 101.6 49.1 3.18 3025 99.3 60191 11524 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 105.0 53.5 3.47 3020 94.9 57470 12194 0.949 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 103.9 49.1 3.18 3018 99.1 60191 11422 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 51.3 3.32 3015 96.8 57506 12080 0.960 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 103.7 48.5 3.14 3008 99.0 60191 11363 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 101.6 47.5 3.08 3007 100.0 60191 10937 0.973 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 100.6 49.2 3.19 3007 97.0 60191 11585 0.948 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 94.2 47.5 3.08 3005 100.0 60191 10928 0.956 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 96.4 47.5 3.08 3005 100.0 60191 10928 0.956 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 95.7 44.8 2.90 2992 100.0 60191 10511 0.978 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7 94.9 48.7 3.15 2977 96.9 60191 11177 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.5 90.2 46.3 3.00 2967 99.8 60191 10626 0.962 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 101.9 49.4 3.20 2961 93.7 60191 11234 0.948 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R901 95.2 43.2 2.80 2959 100.0 60191 10446 0.965 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 105.0 49.3 3.19 2954 93.6 59706 11214 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 105.0 49.3 3.19 2954 93.6 59706 11214 0.951 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 105.0 52.6 3.41 2951 95.5 51950 12042 0.998 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 105.0 50.2 3.25 2924 95.8 51834 11757 1.013 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 105.0 49.1 3.18 2921 95.4 56707 11121 0.977 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 105.0 49.7 3.22 2920 95.7 51658 11650 1.001 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 49.7 3.22 2919 95.6 51608 11643 1.001 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 105.0 51.9 3.36 2909 89.9 54128 11443 0.976 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 51.9 3.36 2908 93.2 51272 11751 1.000 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 105.0 49.7 3.22 2891 93.3 54021 11231 0.999 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 105.0 51.0 3.30 2869 91.9 51966 11204 1.003 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 49.9 3.24 2863 97.8 46022 11621 1.049
ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.0 53.5 3.47 2843 89.6 47803 11929 1.027
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 48.6 3.15 2815 96.6 47145 10800 1.040
Raufoss RA4 105.0 50.2 3.25 2802 87.8 48386 10976 1.028
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 50.2 3.25 2802 87.8 48386 10976 1.028
ADI AR 2209 105.0 49.9 3.24 2768 86.6 46373 10942 1.044
Rottweil R904 105.0 49.5 3.21 2754 86.1 47696 10483 1.038
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 50.2 3.25 2751 86.6 44901 10967 1.064
Somchem S361 105.0 53.5 3.47 2749 85.5 49440 10308 1.033
IMR 4831 105.0 48.1 3.12 2748 93.4 43559 10883 1.091
Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 54.0 3.50 2747 89.4 40420 12214 1.114
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 52.9 3.43 2740 86.9 46734 10549 1.046
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 50.2 3.25 2721 86.1 43884 10772 1.076
Norma MRP 105.0 52.4 3.40 2717 85.9 40705 11590 1.111
Somchem S385 105.0 50.8 3.29 2704 87.9 42994 10668 1.099
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 51.6 3.34 2681 81.0 42244 10841 1.092
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 50.8 3.29 2670 82.1 43550 10261 1.080
ADI AR 2213 105.0 50.8 3.29 2654 80.6 41593 10575 1.100
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 51.3 3.32 2649 79.7 39460 10929 1.130
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 50.8 3.29 2640 82.9 38749 10856 1.140
Raufoss RA15 105.0 50.8 3.29 2640 82.9 38749 10856 1.140
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 50.8 3.29 2640 82.9 38749 10856 1.140
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 53.4 3.46 2598 76.4 38045 10634 1.154
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 49.1 3.18 2573 89.7 34917 10650 1.192
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 54.7 3.54 2571 81.5 38532 10305 1.144
Rottweil R905 105.0 49.8 3.23 2570 79.2 37594 10115 1.159
Accurate 3100 105.0 50.2 3.25 2566 87.1 36293 10184 1.193
Winchester WXR 105.0 49.7 3.22 2554 80.6 35579 10383 1.185
Bofors RP15 105.0 49.7 3.22 2554 80.6 35579 10383 1.185
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 48.8 3.16 2545 79.2 38148 9644 1.151
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 48.1 3.12 2535 81.4 38459 9350 1.152
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 49.7 3.22 2523 83.2 36646 9563 1.176
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 51.2 3.32 2519 75.2 37740 9574 1.159
IMR 7828 105.0 48.8 3.16 2499 76.3 35069 9839 1.190
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 53.6 3.47 2483 75.4 35218 9999 1.193
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 53.6 3.47 2476 75.0 35039 9956 1.196
ADI AP 2214 105.0 52.1 3.38 2465 74.8 35947 9480 1.182
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 49.9 3.24 2464 81.5 32364 10173 1.231
Lovex S071 105.0 47.5 3.08 2391 82.8 29900 9354 1.288
Bofors RP30 105.0 50.2 3.25 2338 71.9 28600 9389 1.312
Norma MRP 2 105.0 50.2 3.25 2338 71.9 28600 9389 1.312
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 49.7 3.22 2305 69.9 30298 8515 1.269
ADI AR 2217 105.0 49.7 3.22 2305 69.9 30298 8515 1.269
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 52.9 3.43 2264 60.7 28010 8812 1.325
Lovex D100 105.0 54.0 3.50 2214 60.2 29578 7590 1.307
ADI AR 2225 105.0 50.5 3.27 2208 67.2 26136 8353 1.351
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 50.5 3.27 2208 67.2 26136 8353 1.351
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 49.7 3.22 2187 63.8 26373 7829 1.374
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 54.5 3.53 2173 58.0 26091 8175 1.371
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 53.5 3.47 2164 55.0 27958 7368 1.337
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 54.5 3.53 2113 55.6 24919 7695 1.400
ADI AR 2218 105.0 53.5 3.47 2109 50.9 26161 7117 1.374
Norma 217 105.0 49.5 3.20 2078 62.2 22037 7876 1.472
Hodgdon H870 105.0 51.9 3.36 2059 56.1 22683 7426 1.456
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 51.0 3.30 2001 47.9 22860 6534 1.455
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 53.5 3.47 1985 49.9 22542 6487 1.469
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 53.1 3.44 1976 49.1 20384 7043 1.520
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 54.3 3.52 1946 49.8 19962 6986 1.532
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 51.3 3.32 1931 52.6 20302 6417 1.534
Accurate 8700 105.0 52.4 3.40 1885 48.1 20335 5821 1.538
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 51.3 3.32 1878 49.3 19320 6011 1.567
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 54.0 3.50 1842 45.5 19062 5774 1.576
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 49.1 3.18 1798 35.0 19834 4530 1.559
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 49.1 3.18 1764 36.7 18301 4640 1.609
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 49.1 3.18 1297 17.4 11039 2218 2.104

 

[RAY]

Thanks , I do have some RL 17.
I'll start off with BG and see what happens.

I'm waiting for cooler weather, I like to try to have velocity and accuracy dialed
In for hunting temperatures.

I will post my results later.

Ray.