Rebore vs. Rebarrel

[filmjunkie4ever]

Is there anyone out there who does small caliber rebores?

Or would it be cheaper to rebarrel?

I have decided to rebarrel (or rebore) a Mauser .25-06 to one of the three following cartriges:

.270 O'Connor er WCF I mean

.275 Rigby (7x57mm Mauser)

.280 Remington (standard not AI)

It has a 22" barrel (perfect for any of the above three if rebore is possible) buit if I end up getting it rebarreled I will likely get a 23"-24" tube. I would keep the same sporter contour to use this as a Mountain type rifle and so I wouldn't have to get a new stock.

Any advice?

 

[truck driver]

If it were mine I beleave I would rebarrel it. Not that I have anything against reboring I just think it would be more to your benefit.

 

[SJB358]

I'd also look at a rebarrel. My thought is if you really want to guarantee accuracy pick an excellent barrel of your choice. Have it twisted up with exactly what you want, then have a good smith put it together. I think you'll have a better rifle in the end.

I've had good luck with rebores on the over 30's but on a small bore I think a premium barrel will pay you back in accuracy attained.

 

[Atkinson]

I have used High Plains Reboreing (Norman Johnson) on many occasions, mostly 8x57s to 9.3x62 or .30-06 to 300 Win. mag on one occasion..All of them shot an inch with 3 shots! 3 shor groups are fine for a hunting rifle IMO.

A rebore is half the price of a new barrel at about $200. Then you also save on stock inletting as your rebored barrel fits the wood, and may in some cases use the same chamber..Id recommend you do your homework, put a pencil to it..and talk to those folks who have used rebored barrels. I use new barrels when building a new gun, but I always take a look at my options when I have an old favorite that needs a new barrel and usually go with a rebore..

 

[SJB358]

I have used High Plains Reboreing (Norman Johnson) on many occasions, mostly 8x57s to 9.3x62 or .30-06 to 300 Win. mag on one occasion..All of them shot an inch with 3 shots! 3 shor groups are fine for a hunting rifle IMO.

A rebore is half the price of a new barrel at about $200. Then you also save on stock inletting as your rebored barrel fits the wood, and may in some cases use the same chamber..Id recommend you do your homework, put a pencil to it..and talk to those folks who have used rebored barrels. I use new barrels when building a new gun, but I always take a look at my options when I have an old favorite that needs a new barrel and usually go with a rebore..

That's how I ended up with a 35 Newton. Had an old Stainless M70 Classic 338 and Pre64 338 Win. I knew the Classic would never get used since I had the Pre 64. A quick rebore/rechamber got me into the Newton with some friends help.

 

[JD338]

I would go with a rebarrel in 280 Rem. You can get a custom barrel and have it inletted to your stock.
If you go with a fluted barrel, you may be able to go up in size slightly and have it still fit the current contour.

JD338

 

[preacher]

If you rebore you have to consider a couple of things; if the barrel does not have enough shank ( chamber area) to cut off and set back ( which will require rebidding) you cannot go to a shorter cartridge than your 25-06. You would be fine with a .270 or 280, however, it may still require a little set back in order to clean up the existing chamber, and rebedding will be needed, though slightly. Ultimately it's your decision but a good Shilen Match Grade barrel is not terribly expensive. My gunsmith charges a flat $550 for a rebarrel job, including the barrel, chambering, rebedding, bluing, etc. It's a toss up. Good luck to you though.

 

[PJGunner]

A rebore to .270 Win. or .280 Rem. is certainly possible. While the 7x57 is nice, the cartridge is much shorter and most likely too much would have to be trimmed off the chamber end to make it work. For that round a rebarrel is the way to go. If it were my rifle, I believe I would go with the .280. my gunsmith charges almost $600 for a rebarrel in blued and another $100 more if you go with a stainless steel barrel. I have a Winchester M70 Stainless Classic barreled action in .338 Win. Mag. that I'm thinking of having rebarreled to 7MM Rem. Mag. or maybe .300 Win. Mag. I can shoot either one just fine but the .338 Win. Mag. just flat out beats me to death.
Paul B.

 

[Dwh7271]

Either option works IMO. Just depends on what you want.
One of the guys previously mentioned cartridge length and for a rebore I completely agree. You have an 06 based cartridge (2.494) and staying that length or a hair over should hopefully prevent any need for setback.
I just had a Mauser action re barreled and it was right at 550 all in. Have another Mauser being re barreled also.
Just depends on how you want it and what you want to spend.
If you're in a hurry, rebores are usually a little quicker.

 

[SJB358]

A rebore to .270 Win. or .280 Rem. is certainly possible. While the 7x57 is nice, the cartridge is much shorter and most likely too much would have to be trimmed off the chamber end to make it work. For that round a rebarrel is the way to go. If it were my rifle, I believe I would go with the .280. my gunsmith charges almost $600 for a rebarrel in blued and another $100 more if you go with a stainless steel barrel. I have a Winchester M70 Stainless Classic barreled action in .338 Win. Mag. that I'm thinking of having rebarreled to 7MM Rem. Mag. or maybe .300 Win. Mag. I can shoot either one just fine but the .338 Win. Mag. just flat out beats me to death.
Paul B.

Paul have you thought of putting your 338 into a nice stock like a Legend. Supposed to be really well designed by D'Arcy Echols and built by McMillan for harder kicking rifles. I missed the boat when I restocked my 338 but I'll do it the next time around for my Newton.

338 Classics are hard to come by and very good rifles.

 

[Dwh7271]

Paul have you thought of putting your 338 into a nice stock like a Legend. Supposed to be really well designed by D'Arcy Echols and built by McMillan for harder kicking rifles. I missed the boat when I restocked my 338 but I'll do it the next time around for my Newton.

338 Classics are hard to come by and very good rifles.

If it's your shoulder where it's whacking you, maybe add a LimbSaver? Their new one looks really good and I think some of the fellas here reviewed it and gave it good ratings.
If it's whacking you in the cheek then new stock. Agree with Scotty completely on that.

 

[Vince]

Stocks and pads do more to make a rifle tolerable than rebarreling.
Just saying mate.
I've got a 25-06 I hate to shoot because the fitment to my body is not optimal. On the other hand shooting my .338 Win Mag is a breeze as it has a custom fitted stock.

Vince

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[PJGunner]

My problem with the .338 Mag. is for some reason the recoil is, how can I say this? Different. My .300 Win. Mag. has a McMillan stock and Decelerator pad as doe the Stainless Classic. Exact same style stock. The .300 Win. pushed me back but the .338 snaps my head back and forth and I literally feel my brain bounce back and forth in my head. Three shots and it's a four to five hour recoil headache. I also have a post 64 push feed M70 in .338 Mag. and it too does the same thing. That one has a Limbsaver on it. The only .338 Mag. that hasn't hurt me was a Browning BAR that had a decelerator and that BOSS thing on it. Loud as hell but recoil was not bad at all. I can shoot a .375 H&H Ruger #1 with that skimpy excuse for a pad with less pain and a .375 Taylor wildcat in a 7.5 pound rifle with less anguish. I'm thinking a muzzle brake on the post 64 gun might help along with a new pad as the Limbsaver is slowly turning into some kind of sticky goo.
Oh well. No rest for the rifle loony. :lol:
Paul B.

 

[SJB358]

With a great shooting Whelen Paul you won't gain much from your 338 but being its a Classic 70, I'd hate to see it chopped up as they were/are excellent shooting rifles.

Either way, they are yours and you'll get more fun out of them in a shop table cartridge. Especially something like the 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum.... :twisted:

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

I have used High Plains Reboreing (Norman Johnson) on many occasions, mostly 8x57s to 9.3x62 or .30-06 to 300 Win. mag on one occasion..All of them shot an inch with 3 shots! 3 shor groups are fine for a hunting rifle IMO.

A rebore is half the price of a new barrel at about $200. Then you also save on stock inletting as your rebored barrel fits the wood, and may in some cases use the same chamber..Id recommend you do your homework, put a pencil to it..and talk to those folks who have used rebored barrels. I use new barrels when building a new gun, but I always take a look at my options when I have an old favorite that needs a new barrel and usually go with a rebore..

Thanks for the reply Atkinson.

I live in Idaho Falls and know a good smith here but he wants a little more than I want to pay for a rebarrel so thats why I was considering a re-bore. $200.00 is definately do-able.

Is Mr. Johnson still in business? Where is he located?

 

[Vince]

If you've ever had a Parts Changer, who claimed to be a Gunsmith, work on your guns you'd not think twice of paying for quality.

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[preacher]

I was told by a friend about a gunsmith in Houston, back in '82. I checked him out, he even had a business card that said "Master Gunsmith". I let him bed a Mod 700 7mm Rem Mag for me. It was full of voids, but it worked. It was something I could have done myself with auto body bondo! ha. "You makes you pick and you takes you chances" as they say!

 

[filmjunkie4ever]

Yeah I think I will just leave her alone at this point.

Besides I broke the rules the other day and shot a potential donor rifle...

With the 117 grain bullets it was a bughole.

Whoopsie.

 

[nvbroncrider]

Yeah I think I will just leave her alone at this point.

Besides I broke the rules the other day and shot a potential donor rifle...

With the 117 grain bullets it was a bughole.

Whoopsie.

Game over!

 

[preacher]

My problem with the .338 Mag. is for some reason the recoil is, how can I say this? Different. . the .338 snaps my head back and forth and I literally feel my brain bounce back and forth in my head.
A friend of mine bought one of those post 64 Mod 70 338WM back in about '85. I worked him up two loads for it; the Speer 200HC and the Sierra 250SBT. It was absolutely brutal in recoil! It was a shooter "if" you could hang onto it and keep the scope out of your forehead, ha. Funny, my Father in law had a "made for Sears Ted Williams Mod 70" in 30-06 and it was almost as bad! My Father in Law got a cookie cutter eyebrow every fall! ha. I recommend a muzzle brake too, but a nice rebarrel to .257 Weatherby would have you shooting it much more!